Be Proud of Being Catholic

[amingb]

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im not against anang go directly to God noh, but i think we always miss what really God said..

can you elaborate more on we must go straight to him if ever naa kay sala sa imo isig katao?.. if naa kay verses mas maau para magklarohay ta kanang klaro jud about forgiving sins jud not just another opinion na qoute..

James 5:16
Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

mao ni ug makasala kas imoha isig ka tawo adto ka mangayo pasaylo niya dili adto sa Priest.
To Cure your Guilt pray and ask for forgiveness.

[necrotic freak]

James 5:16
Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

mao ni ug makasala kas imoha isig ka tawo adto ka mangayo pasaylo niya dili adto sa Priest.
To Cure your Guilt pray and ask for forgiveness.

agree ko nimo bro. pero ngano gi sugo man ni Cristo ang mga apostolis sa pagpasaylo, forgive the sins of many and they are forgiven. unsa man sabot nimo ana? ang priest are the representative of the apostles diba?

[amingb]

nice job but let us not forget...

Philippians 2:12- "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.


and James chapter 2 also said...

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

and.....


24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Duda man ko nimo Bro dili ka Muslim ... hehehehe... okay lang

Unsa man imoha buot pasabot bro nag Contradict si Paul ug James

To shortened this discussion
- The Faith paul is talking about True and Living Faith ... paul is talking to unconverted

- James is referring to Dead Faith ... james is talking to converted

Bottomline its all Faith, works is just a manifestation of your Geniune Faith

[necrotic freak]

Duda man ko nimo Bro dili ka Muslim ... hehehehe... okay lang

Unsa man imoha buot pasabot bro nag Contradict si Paul ug James

To shortened this discussion
- The Faith paul is talking about True and Living Faith ... paul is talking to unconverted

- James is referring to Dead Faith ... james is talking to converted

Bottomline its all Faith, works is just a manifestation of your Geniune Faith

dili pod diay nimo i apply ang kang James? kung wala mo manifest ang imong works dead faith lang gihapon diba? so faith before manifested works gyud na... pero ang pinaka nagdala sa bida ang faith gyud..

[amingb]

dili pod diay nimo i apply ang kang James? kung wala mo manifest ang imong works dead faith lang gihapon diba? so faith before manifested works gyud na... pero ang pinaka nagdala sa bida ang faith gyud..

Base sa akoang nasabtan ang pasabot ni James bro is katong mga Faith nga untested, unproven.
Daghan sige ingon nga naa ko Faith pero wala nakita sa Buhat mao na pasabot ni James.

[amingb]

dili pod diay nimo i apply ang kang James? kung wala mo manifest ang imong works dead faith lang gihapon diba? so faith before manifested works gyud na... pero ang pinaka nagdala sa bida ang faith gyud..

Kini man gud ang Issue sa Roman Catholic Bro ...

"Even though incorporated into the Church, one who does not however persevere in charity is not saved." Pg. 222, #837

Klaro kaau nga Its all Work ang Salvation.

Ibutang nato ug ang tawo dili na kalihok kay na Disable unsaon naman niya pagbuhat ug charity ?

Unsa mana nga Charity gi mention sa Vatican ? possibly good works siguro.

Ang works dat is mention by james is not Charity but Obedience and Commitment to the will of God.

Ayaw lang ka kalain nako bro ha ... friendly discussion lang gud ning atoa.

[necrotic freak]

Base sa akoang nasabtan ang pasabot ni James bro is katong mga Faith nga untested, unproven.
Daghan sige ingon nga naa ko Faith pero wala nakita sa Buhat mao na pasabot ni James.

ug mao pod na akong sabot bro sa gipasabot ni St. James bro. so gusto pod ang Ginoo makita jud sa buhat sa? nya mo ingon lang gihapon ka nga Faith alone? dapat jud nato i consider ang teachings nilang St. Paul ug ni St. James bro.. dili kay atong pili-an unsa mas pabor nato. kay dili man ma himong True and Living Faith ang teachings ni St. Paul kung walay work nga teachings ni St. James.. diba bro?

[amingb]

ug mao pod na akong sabot bro sa gipasabot ni St. James bro. so gusto pod ang Ginoo makita jud sa buhat sa? nya mo ingon lang gihapon ka nga Faith alone? dapat jud nato i consider ang teachings nilang St. Paul ug ni St. James bro.. dili kay atong pili-an unsa mas pabor nato. kay dili man ma himong True and Living Faith ang teachings ni St. Paul kung walay work nga teachings ni St. James.. diba bro?

No bro wala pilii bro oi ..

Nag ingon diay si James nga ang Justification is by Faith and works ? .... ang pasabot niya ug naa kay tinoodaay nga Faith naa kay good works which is obedient and commitment to the will of God.

Ning ingon paman gani si Paul ani :

10 For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Mag kuyog jud nang duha Faith and Works... but the Bible say the Justification is in your Faith.

[necrotic freak]

No bro wala pilii bro oi ..

Nag ingon diay si James nga ang Justification is by Faith and works ? .... ang pasabot niya ug naa kay tinoodaay nga Faith naa kay good works which is obedient and commitment to the will of God.

Ning ingon paman gani si Paul ani :

10 For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Mag kuyog jud nang duha Faith and Works... but the Bible say the Justification is in your Faith.

aw sulbad nata bro ni ingon nanam ka ug Mag kuyog jud nang duha Faith and Works. kay bisag unsaun dili man jud ma justify imong faith ug wa kay good works matud pa ni St. James.

[necrotic freak]

Kini man gud ang Issue sa Roman Catholic Bro ...

"Even though incorporated into the Church, one who does not however persevere in charity is not saved." Pg. 222, #837

Klaro kaau nga Its all Work ang Salvation.

Ibutang nato ug ang tawo dili na kalihok kay na Disable unsaon naman niya pagbuhat ug charity ?

Unsa mana nga Charity gi mention sa Vatican ? possibly good works siguro.

Ang works dat is mention by james is not Charity but Obedience and Commitment to the will of God.

Ayaw lang ka kalain nako bro ha ... friendly discussion lang gud ning atoa.

makabuhat gihapon ka ug charity bro oi bisag disable ka. basta buhi lang ka maka himo gihapon ka pagtabang bro oi..

bro ug duna kay obedience and commitment to the will of God, unsa mang mga works/deeds ang possibling mabuhat ana? ang pagtabang sa isig ka ingon dili pa obedience to God? unsa man diay imong buhaton bro kung naa kay obedience and commitment to the will of God? sultihi kuno ko bro?

dili ko malain bro oi..hehe ang ato rang pagtuo ang nagbangi. pero atong pagka tao ok ta.