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    Rev. 21:27 - nothing unclean shall enter heaven. The word “unclean” comes from the Greek word “koinon” which refers to a spiritual corruption. Even the propensity to sin is spiritually corrupt, or considered unclean, and must be purified before entering heaven. It is amazing how many Protestants do not want to believe in purgatory. Purgatory exists because of the mercy of God. If there were no purgatory, this would also likely mean no salvation for most people. God is merciful indeed.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by gabstafari View Post
    Heb. 12:14 - without holiness no one will see the Lord.

    We need final sanctification to attain true holiness before God, and this process occurs during our lives and, if not completed during our lives, in the transitional state of purgatory.
    Sorry bro ... this is a wrong interpretation ... mura mani siya compromise aron ma luwas jud ang tawo ...

  3. #83
    bisag unsa-on lage jud nato bro. bisan mag tinga pata, makasala jud ta. unsaon naman lang pag sulod nato sa langit ana?


    Rev. 21:27 - nothing unclean shall enter heaven.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by gabstafari View Post
    sa impyerno wala nay kaluwasan bro. sa langit walay punishment didto.


    i don't know if i'm exactly right but my interpretation

    mao na siya ang state where limpyohan ang imong mga nabuhat nga sala katong nabuhi paka diri sa world
    Lahi sab ka ug interpretation bro sa .... naa naman gud sa thinking ninyo ang purgatory which is base on the apocryphal books which Vatican has expounded into its doctrine.

    apocryphal books are not part of the Bible which Vatican inserted or added to fit its doctrine.

    Mao na before ta mo believe mo search sa ta.

  5. #85
    not just apocryphal books bro. ma basa man jud na sa lain nga book sa bible. like kato akong mga gipang kutlo.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by gabstafari View Post
    bisag unsa-on lage jud nato bro. bisan mag tinga pata, makasala jud ta. unsaon naman lang pag sulod nato sa langit ana?


    Rev. 21:27 - nothing unclean shall enter heaven.
    Ug mao na ang Salvation sa tawo ang Purgatory tanan tawo maluwas bisan makasasala. Im sorry to say nga questionable jud na nga doctrine.


    completohon bro

    Nothing unclean, or anyone who does anything detestable, and no one who tells lies will ever enter it. Only those whose names are written in the lamb's Book of Life will enter it.

    Para naka bro to be a True Christian is enough to go to Heaven ... because true Christian is Free of Sin.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Ug mao na ang Salvation sa tawo ang Purgatory tanan tawo maluwas bisan makasasala. Im sorry to say nga questionable jud na nga doctrine.


    completohon bro

    Nothing unclean, or anyone who does anything detestable, and no one who tells lies will ever enter it. Only those whose names are written in the lamb's Book of Life will enter it.

    Para naka bro to be a True Christian is enough to go to Heaven ... because true Christian is Free of Sin.
    ang bout pasabot ana bro. ang katong mga mabutang sa purgatoryo katong mga naay sala nga gagmay.
    i think you know how to distinguish bro.

    true Christian is Free of Sin - questionable pud ni bro. kay bisag unsa-on bro makasala jud ang tawo bro. pagka tawo palang nato daan naa na tay original sin.

    and still nothing unclean shall enter heaven.

  8. #88
    Naa bitaw pangutana about salvation

    Asa aning duha

    1. Jesus Christ
    2. Purgatory

  9. #89
    mao nay pangutana bro.

    i think its not a valid question.

    don't tell me ok ra ang magpakasala karon? tapus forgiven na diay.


    JESUS came here to show how he love us and he is wiling to die for us because of our sins and he came here to remind us nga bisag ang kamatayon dili maka buntog sa iyang gugma og gahom.

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by gabstafari View Post
    ang bout pasabot ana bro. ang katong mga mabutang sa purgatoryo katong mga naay sala nga gagmay.
    i think you know how to distinguish bro.

    true Christian is Free of Sin - questionable pud ni bro. kay bisag unsa-on bro makasala jud ang tawo bro. pagka tawo palang nato daan naa na tay original sin.

    and still nothing unclean shall enter heaven.
    Once ang tawo will become a True Christian mao ni mahitabo niya ...

    "22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."--(Romans 6:22-23)

    Clear kaau bro ang Eternal Life is for Jesus Christ not Purgatory.

    People today dili jud mo tuo ani "free from sin", padayon lang ta magpakasala.

    Its a carnal reasoning not base on teachings of Jesus or of the Bible.

    This belief is not based on true hope and is the sign of a person who is helpless, powerless and enslaved to the bondage of sin.

    The Bible clearly teaches that the person who has truly come to know Christ will be free from sin, he will be holy, in thought, in word and in deed.

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