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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Pwedi ni an First..

    ang Ikaduha, gi unsa man nimu pag tuo or pagkaila ni Kristo if di ka mutuo sa Bibliya? unsa man basihan nimu para maka ila ka ni krito? history? unsa sad nga mga sinuwat?

    or mutuo ka ni Kristo as?
    Jesus can exist even without the bible! Historical books like the Dead see scrolls and Gnostic Gospels are enough to present that Jesus did exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Jesus can exist even without the bible! Historical books like the Dead see scrolls and Gnostic Gospels are enough to present that Jesus did exist.

    asa naman ni nga mga books oi.
    naglisod baya jud cla ug decode ug interpret ani.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Yaw palabi ug dayeg kay maka ingun nsad ni sila sila nlan jud maoy sakto diri sa kalibutan, dali ra baya ni sila dayun mka ingun ug hukom sa uban nga sayop ka, sayop mu, abi kay daghan na lagi nabasahan ug lagi mga utukan daw. kunu...murag pariha ra tanan nangita sa tinuod, wala pay naka prove natu bisag isa nga kita maoy sakto..puro ra atu pangagpas ug explanation...so bisag kinsa dunay chance nga masayop..

    PEACE
    dennis dodong, i never declared a proclamation no. so and so that sakto na jud ko. what's the reason behind your hostility? do you feel threatened? i never imposed on anyone what i believe. if you don't, di man magsakit akong tiyan kung di ka motuo. and what's this "utukan daw kunu"? i never claimed that. IT IS YOU who implied that. you're being judgmental, dodong. maayo jud ka pagka-brainwash. you're no different than the resident bible fanatics here in istorya.net.

    if naa koy chance na masayop, then so be it. at least i did research. di parehas nimo/ninyo, tuo-tuo dayon unsay ihungit sa relihiyon ninyo.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    How can you believe the Bible if you have not studied the Bible. Study the bible and try to prove its wrong first.
    As for me I believe in everything, whether Evil or Good.

    So its like this Believe what people say rather than searching for the truth for yourself through logical thinking and reasoning?
    You yourself sound like a lost Christian.
    In the dark ages Catholics did not purely believe in the Bible they mixed it with tradition. Or even they didn't believe the Bible anymore due to too many alterations and their Bible it was not the true Bible anymore. FIY the Catholics created their own bible other than the original Bible and they freely admit that. This is the very work of the Anti Christ.
    If you trully are an Athiest a fascist or communist i'd suggest go for Catholicism. Your belief would end up the same thing.
    ...and by being re-born-ed could make the DARK AGES better? lolz
    some people did read the bible, and turned out NOT LIKE YOU.

    The Bible Unbelievers...care less about that particular piece of literature.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Can a person be called a Christian if he dont believe the Bible ? please comment
    no.

    a CHRISTIAN is a follower of CHRIST.
    and in order for you to follow CHRIST you must hear the GOSPEL and follow it.

    19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
    20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
    matthew 28:19-20

    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
    Romans 1:16

    6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
    1 Corinthians 4:6

    and a follower/believer is called:
    26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
    Acts 11:26

    Peace!

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
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    The Bible Unbelievers...care less about that particular piece of literature.
    who defined this?
    a bible believer believes the entire word of GOD.
    and by not following the entire word of GOD will called UNBELIEVERS.

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    no.

    a CHRISTIAN is a follower of CHRIST.
    and in order for you to follow CHRIST you must hear the GOSPEL and follow it.

    19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
    20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
    matthew 28:19-20

    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
    Romans 1:16

    6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
    1 Corinthians 4:6

    and a follower/believer is called:
    26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
    Acts 11:26

    Peace!
    Did the disciples uses the bible (KJV) to teach in Antioch?
    ang imo ingon you must hear the GOSPEL and follow it. not Read it klaro ana.. sa panahon sa disciples wala silay gibasa nga bible but oral teacing ra ug ang followers maminaw ra.. wala jud bible nga king james version rcruman!


    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    who defined this?
    a bible believer believes the entire word of GOD.
    and by not following the entire word of GOD will called UNBELIEVERS.

    Peace!
    the entire word of GOD? are you sure? the word of God were entirely wrote in the bible you use? ingon baya ang Ginoo nga kung isulat tanan niya gisulti dili masulod sa tibuok kalibutan. hinoktoki na rcruman.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    sa panahon sa disciples wala silay gibasa nga bible but oral teacing ra ug ang followers maminaw ra..
    nagpaila lang ka bai, nga ignorante jud ka sa bible.

    ang mga apostles og disciples ni gamit og bible. basaha ni sa panahon nga si Pablo nag preach, iya gigamit ang book of psalm sa iyang preaching.

    Act 13:33 "Nga gituman sa Dios sa atong mga anak sa gibanhaw niya si Jesus; ingon usab nga nahisulat sa ikaduha nga Salmo: Ikaw mao ang Anak ko; gipanganak ko ikaw karon."

    basaha sa Psalm 2:7 diba mutugma ang gi preach ni st. paul;

    Psalm 2:7 "Ikaw mao ang akong anak; gianak ko ikaw niining adlawa."

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by kowkruche View Post
    nagpaila lang ka bai, nga ignorante jud ka sa bible.

    ang mga apostles og disciples ni gamit og bible. basaha ni sa panahon nga si Pablo nag preach, iya gigamit ang book of psalm sa iyang preaching.

    Act 13:33 "Nga gituman sa Dios sa atong mga anak sa gibanhaw niya si Jesus; ingon usab nga nahisulat sa ikaduha nga Salmo: Ikaw mao ang Anak ko; gipanganak ko ikaw karon."

    basaha sa Psalm 2:7 diba mutugma ang gi preach ni st. paul;

    Psalm 2:7 "Ikaw mao ang akong anak; gianak ko ikaw niining adlawa."
    sakto lagi ka brad ang book of psalm iyang gigamit usa sa ancient books of the bible today. pero akong pasabot ang mga followers ba gipabasa ba ni san pablo sa book of psalm? or iyang ra gibasahan. si san pablo ang ni basa ug siya ra sad ang ni interpret sa followers.. so wala naka read ang follower unya dili diay to christian ang followers kay wala man kabasa?

    so ang akong point brad kay kadtong mga new christian converts sauna wala nag basi solely sa book of psalm but through the teaching of the dicsiples and the church. dili ta maka ingon nga kung ang usa ka christian dili suheto sa bible kuwang iyang pagtoo sa Ginoo or dili siya christian.

    ok ra mo ingon ka nako ignorante ko sa bible brad, pero dili ko ignorante sa Ginoo nga akong gituoohan.
    Last edited by necrotic freak; 03-28-2009 at 10:44 AM.

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