Bible vs quran

[GrEenOCIDE]

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kay sigehan ug sugnod sa mga gagmayng utok parehas ninyo.

kinsa d-i nag-sige ug sugnod mr Hell?

[Hellblazer 2.1]

kinsa d-i nag-sige ug sugnod mr Hell?

i'm not going to answer you anymore sir. there's nothing relevant about it.

[Malic]

@amingb

are u a christian?

creating this thread is so unwise.

Read your crusades before you strike Islam.

have you ever been to KSA ,UAE and other moderate Islamic countries? Its a peaceful country.

dont you know that UAE is giving millions of money as a charity to other countries?

and dont you know that if only western countries would stop playing their dirty games in M.East, these wars you mentioned would not happened.


Now going back to your question in your first post.

I would say...the bible you have now is a corrupt version. It has been changed and revised many times over. Pls read Regnauld's thread "bible cntradictions"

As for the Quran...it remained the same.

[jOaL]

@TS gi 3 unta to nimo

Bible, Koran ug BookofMormons

[Malic]

Ayaw bro aron maka explain si Bro Malic regarding Islam

Daghan manang Jihad sige bitaw ko Post ana wala may mo tubay.

Jihad against one's self (Jihad al-Nafs)
Jihad of the tongue (Jihad al-lisan)
Jihad of the hand (Jihad al-yad)
Jihad of the sword (Jihad as-sayf) mao ning mga Terorista.

Ambot unsa na sila tubagon unta ni Bro Malic.

aw naa naman diay kay idea so nganu ako pa man tubagon sir?

Wherever You Have Islam, You Will Have War

Tan-awa nang mga Country nga naay Islam puerting gubota .. Islam cant mix with other religion why man ?

hahahahahaha not true. open your eyes wider.

naka basa ko nga lahi ang pagkataw ni prophet mohammad nga naa pa siya sa medina kaysa naa siya sa mecca.. si malic please advice?

ani ni siya sir. Sa Mecca gi persecute ug gi pang torturte ang mga muslims but inspite ana wala sila mosukol kay hadlok sila sa Ginoo.

so pag grabe sa persecution ni exodus sila sa Medina,then didto na established nila ang first ever Islamic country. Nya katong mga tao nga nag cge ug persecute nila sa Mecca nag plot nga e conquer ang mga muslims sa Medina.

Then tungod kay na sobrahan na ang mga muslim sa ka maldito sa mga taga Mecca together sa revelation ni Allah ngadto kang Propeta Mohammad ni sukol sila sir. Then didto sugod ang mga Physical jihad sa Islam. Ato nga time sir basta hilabtan nimo ang osa ka muslim ang mobalik ug atake nimo tag 100 kabook.

let me illustrate...during sa Medina ug peaceful time sa Mecca naay mga obang country nga mosulod sa outskirts sa Mecca ug Medina to conduct raids against muslims. Ang oban ilang e rape ang mga babaye ug ang oban gi pangpatay. So tungod kay sa Islam gi pangga man jud na namo ang among mga babaye syempre ila jud gi pangitaan ug justice ang kato nga panghitabo.

Since ang country where na belong to mga criminals dili muhatag ug justice instead ila pang labanan ug ila pang itago ang mga criminals so ang gibuhat sa mga muslim is gubaton na lang nila haron makuha ang justice ug ma parusahan ang mga criminals.

[amingb]

@amingb

are u a christian?

creating this thread is so unwise.

Read your crusades before you strike Islam.

have you ever been to KSA ,UAE and other moderate Islamic countries? Its a peaceful country.

dont you know that UAE is giving millions of money as a charity to other countries?

and dont you know that if only western countries would stop playing their dirty games in M.East, these wars you mentioned would not happened.


Now going back to your question in your first post.

I would say...the bible you have now is a corrupt version. It has been changed and revised many times over. Pls read Regnauld's thread "bible cntradictions"

As for the Quran...it remained the same.

Bro wala lay personalay ha sabot ta daan .. discussion lang, a lot of istorian want to this thread to be closed kay ma gubot daw. Dili man siguro basta wala lay personalay just purely discussion lang to gain knowledge.

Islamic Countries are peaceful tungod there is no other religion exist ... ask lang ko why man ug naay other other religion like christian religion mo established in this so called Islam countries gi bawal man. In this country there is no freedom of religion.

Rich Western countries doing in the Middle East is purely Economics in other words Imperialism. Is that the reason Islam Fundamentalist declaring war with the West ?

Assuming the Bible has been edited so many time but the thoughts are just the same, Mr. Regnauld is just applying philosphy. I would say that Quran still intact because it was made lately compare to Bible which the original text is lost and only the translation exist.

The bottomline of this two Divine Book is teaching good virtue, principle of morality, doctrines and truthfulness etc.

Ang problema karon Why the faithful in these religion dili man magkasinabot.

Peace can only be between Moslem and Moslem, Is it True ?

Peace

[grovestreet]

mura man ni ug...

kapamilya vs kapuso.

[HopeForJANA]

IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD?

By Ahmed Deedat

CHAPTER ONE

WHAT THEY SAY

CHRISTIANS CONFESS
Dr. W. Graham Scroggie of the MOODY BIBLE INSTITUTE, Chicago, one of the most prestigious Christian Evangelical Mission in the world, answering the question — "Is the Bible the Word of God?" (also the title of his book), under the heading: IT IS HUMAN, YET DIVINE. He says on page 17:
"Yes, the Bible is human, though some, out of zeal which is not according to knowledge, 1 have denied this. Those books2 have passed through the minds of men, are written in the language of men, were penned by the hands of men, and bear in their style the characteristics of men." (Emphasis added).
Another erudite Christian scholar, Kenneth Cragg, the Anglican Bishop of Jerusalem, says on page 277 of his book, "The Call of the Minaret":
"Not so the New Testament3 . . . There is condensation and editing; 4 there is choice, reproduction and witness. The Gospels have come through the mind of the Church behind the authors. They represent experience and history." 5
If words have any meaning, do we need to add another word of comment to prove our case? No! But the professional propagandists, after letting the cat out of the bag, still have the face to try to make their readers believe that they have proved beyond the shadow of any doubt that the Bible is the "irrefragable 6 Word of God." Their semantic gymnastics — equivocating, and playing with words — is amazing!
1. Out of ignorance.
2. The Bible is not Just a Book. It is a selection and compilation of many books.
3. As opposed to the Qur'an.
4. Another word for Interpolating.
5. Emphasis are mine.
6. Indisputable.
Both these Doctors of Religion are telling us in the clearest language humanly possible that the Bible is the handiwork of man, all the while pretending that the are proving to the contrary. An old Arab saying goes: "IF SUCH ARE THE PRIESTS, GOD BLESS THE CONGREGATION. "
With this sort of drive, the hot-gospeller and the Bible-thumper is "inspired" to harry the "heathen." 1 A theological student — a not-yet-qualified young evangelist — from the University of Witwatersrand, became a frequent visitor to the Newtown Mosque in Johannesburg, with the "noble" thought of "witnessing"2 to the members of its congregation. When I was introduced to him, (and having learnt his purpose), I invited him to lunch at my brother's residence — a stone's-throw from the Mosque. While discussing the authenticity of the Bible over the dinner table and sensing his stubborn dogmatism, I put out a feeler: "Your Professor Geyser, (The Head of the Department of Theology) does not believe the Bible to be the Word of God." Without the slightest surprise he answered, "I know." Now I personally had no knowledge of the Professor's conviction about the Bible. I had only assumed so from a controversy which raged around him about the "Divinity of Christ." 3 He had taken issue with the orthodox believers on this point some years ago. I continued further, saying, "Your lecturer does not believe the Bible as being God's Word." The young evangelist, responded again, "I know" but he continued this time-with the words, "but I believe that it is the Word of God!" There is no real remedy for such people. Even Jesus bewailed this sickness:
"... seeing they see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand." (Matthew 13:13)
Al-Qur'an, the Holy Book of God, also condemns this mulish mentality:

These pages are now addressed to those sincerely humble souls, who are genuinely interested in seeking the Light of God, and who wish to be guided by it. As for the other, with a sickness in their souls, the facts presented herein can only increase the disease of their hearts.

[Malic]

Bro wala lay personalay ha sabot ta daan .. discussion lang, a lot of istorian want to this thread to be closed kay ma gubot daw. Dili man siguro basta wala lay personalay just purely discussion lang to gain knowledge.

Islamic Countries are peaceful tungod there is no other religion exist ... ask lang ko why man ug naay other other religion like christian religion mo established in this so called Islam countries gi bawal man. In this country there is no freedom of religion.

Rich Western countries doing in the Middle East is purely Economics in other words Imperialism. Is that the reason Islam Fundamentalist declaring war with the West ?

Assuming the Bible has been edited so many time but the thoughts are just the same, Mr. Regnauld is just applying philosphy. I would say that Quran still intact because it was made lately compare to Bible which the original text is lost and only the translation exist.

The bottomline of this two Divine Book is teaching good virtue, principle of morality, doctrines and truthfulness etc.

Ang problema karon Why the faithful in these religion dili man magkasinabot.

Peace can only be between Moslem and Moslem, Is it True ?

Peace

Sure dili man ko mamersonal kun dili ko unahan.

Not all Islamic countries banned the creation of non-Islamic religions.

You have to understand that the form of government in Islamic countries is different. The Shari'a law is being imposed and the basis of those laws are from the Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Prophet.

Para dili ka maglisod ug sabot sir just think of Israel before. Specially during the time of Moses. Laws and commandments were given to them from God and no other religion or way of life was allowed but the only one that God prescribed. Violation of such orders entails punishments.

In most western countries there is a separation between state and religion but in Islam there is no distinction because Islam is not just a religion but it is a way of life, others call it IDEOLOGY. Muslims have their own laws concerning economy,social ethics,religion,governance,family structure and everything that involves the day to day dealings of a man.


Islam, we can say is at the same level as Marxism,Democracy,communism and others sir.

Can you set up a religious corporation within a strict communist country? maybe, but it involves illegal procedures. Im not saying that Islam and communism is the same but Islam has a different form of Ideology.


Fundamentalists are declaring war for different reasons. Now i dont want to give some of its details because i dont want people here to mistook me for Mr. anti-west. But conspiracies did happened sir.

Dont you know that Saddam was once a CIA-USA ally? hmmmm thats all i can say sir. I dont want to talk about politics here. Economy can sometimes lead you to dark places of your personality.


I see sir. I agree sir, that the bottomline of these two books is to teach virtue and sound morality.

Im a faithful sir but i dont push my Islam to others. I only react to those foolish faithfuls who think that they are the only true church.


Peace can also be between Muslims and non-Muslims. We just have to reach out to each other.


Battle mode comes only when i see ADD members. Forgive me...sir.


By the way, i really want to see you solved the conflicts Sir Regnauld posted in the thread "Bible contradictions".

[Malic]

@HopeForJANA

Masha'Allah. Allahu akbar!

shukran!