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    cause man has free will-----

  2. #272
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    Yet you have to prove that too. If not, who is going to believe you?
    then how do you prove that something/someone do not exist? if you cant, who is going to believe you?

  3. #273
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Some say that God doesn't know evil, because they can't explain why a God who is good allows robberies, murders, disease, poverty, and other terrible happenings that are going on constantly on this earth. These misfortunes are certainly evil to us; but are they evil to God? If they are, why would God permit such evil? And if the evil did not come from Him who is the Supreme Creator of all things, where did it come from? Who created greed? Who created hate? Who created jealousy and anger? Who created harmful bacteria? Who created lustful temptation, and the temptation of greed? These were not the invention of human beings. Man could never have experienced them if they had not first been created.

    Some people try to explain that evil does not exist, or that it is merely a psychological factor. But this is not so. The evidence of evil is here in the world. You cannot deny it. If there is no evil, why would Jesus pray, "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil"? Mat. 6:13 He is saying plainly that evil does exist.

    So, the truth is, we do find evil in the world. And where did it come from? GOD. Evil provides the contrast that enables us to recognize and experience goodness. Evil had to be, if there was to be any creation. If you wrote a message with white chalk on a white board, no one would see it. So, without the blacKboard of evil, the good things in the world could not be magnified at all. For instance, Judas was Jesus' best publicity agent. By his evil act, Judas made Christ eternally famous. Jesus knew the role he had to play, and all that was going to happen to him in order that he might demonstrate the love and greatness of GOD, and a villain was necessary to this enactment. But it was not good for Judas that he chose to be the one whose dark deed, by contrast, extolled the glories of Christ's triumph over evil. Any comments?

    see you only use one verse and the rest your own explanation.

    bro all of GOD's creation are good and some we don't understand because of your limited minds.
    31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
    Genesis 1:31

    did you know that each of us has own evil in our body?
    its just a matter of time when you will follow it or when you will reject it and let your own mind be the master not the evil in us?

    14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
    15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
    16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.
    17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

    James 1:14-17

    in this world EVIL has no place in GOD's plan, but due to one man:

    12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
    13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
    Romans 5:12-13

    adam the first man allows it to happened and so with majority of man allows sin/evil to be their master.
    they follow their lust.

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Who created greed? Who created hate? Who created jealousy and anger? Who created harmful bacteria? Who created lustful temptation, and the temptation of greed? These were not the invention of human beings. Man could never have experienced them if they had not first been created.
    bro about greed, hate, jealousy and anger, tanan ba tao kay greed?
    ikaw bro tanang imo giingon kinsay naay kontrol nga mahitabo ang lustful temptation?
    kung naay motintal kanimo nga naghubo, asa ang control bro naa sa naghubo or naa nimo?
    ayaw basula ang GINOO sa imo/atong kahuyang. Kung makasala kita kay mangayo tag pasaylo sa mga sala nga wala ta kahibalo sa depensa.

    then about harmful bacteria, diba maestro ka pangutana kuno usa sa imo mga kauban nga maestro sa inyo universities?

    asa gikan ang harmful bacteria? naturally naa ba gyud na sa ato pagkatao?
    asa gikan ang AIDS? asa gikan ang ebola virus?


    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Some say that God doesn't know evil, because they can't explain why a God who is good allows robberies, murders, disease, poverty, and other terrible happenings that are going on constantly on this earth. These misfortunes are certainly evil to us; but are they evil to God? If they are, why would God permit such evil? And if the evil did not come from Him who is the Supreme Creator of all things, where did it come from?
    they you've heard the wrong information and source, read again or go back to the bible then you will see.
    you only refer to the bible or use the bible when you will back-up your doubts.
    God didn't permit evil but its us who permits evil.
    then to those victims its gain for them because they're victim and they endure it by following GOD's will.
    There are poor and rich people, rich must give to the poor.
    but when a poor get hungry and they've nothing to eat they didn't steal for food and go for hold-up and robbery then GOD has gifts for them.

    3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
    5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
    6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
    7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
    8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
    9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
    10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
    12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
    Matthew 5:3-12

    we people has many excuses, like you.

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    see you only use one verse and the rest your own explanation.

    bro all of GOD's creation are good and some we don't understand because of your limited minds.
    31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
    Genesis 1:31

    did you know that each of us has own evil in our body?
    its just a matter of time when you will follow it or when you will reject it and let your own mind be the master not the evil in us?

    14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
    15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
    16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.
    17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

    James 1:14-17

    in this world EVIL has no place in GOD's plan, but due to one man:

    12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
    13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
    Romans 5:12-13

    adam the first man allows it to happened and so with majority of man allows sin/evil to be their master.
    they follow their lust.



    bro about greed, hate, jealousy and anger, tanan ba tao kay greed?
    ikaw bro tanang imo giingon kinsay naay kontrol nga mahitabo ang lustful temptation?
    kung naay motintal kanimo nga naghubo, asa ang control bro naa sa naghubo or naa nimo?
    ayaw basula ang GINOO sa imo/atong kahuyang. Kung makasala kita kay mangayo tag pasaylo sa mga sala nga wala ta kahibalo sa depensa.

    then about harmful bacteria, diba maestro ka pangutana kuno usa sa imo mga kauban nga maestro sa inyo universities?

    asa gikan ang harmful bacteria? naturally naa ba gyud na sa ato pagkatao?
    asa gikan ang AIDS? asa gikan ang ebola virus?



    they you've heard the wrong information and source, read again or go back to the bible then you will see.
    you only refer to the bible or use the bible when you will back-up your doubts.
    God didn't permit evil but its us who permits evil.
    then to those victims its gain for them because they're victim and they endure it by following GOD's will.
    There are poor and rich people, rich must give to the poor.
    but when a poor get hungry and they've nothing to eat they didn't steal for food and go for hold-up and robbery then GOD has gifts for them.

    3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
    5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
    6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
    7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
    8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
    9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
    10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
    12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
    Matthew 5:3-12

    we people has many excuses, like you.

    Peace!
    Those are not excuses they are part of our reality. The LAW of DUALITY or The LAW of OPPOSITES is not man made creation. In fact before a man is born, the LAW of DUALITY already exists. Meaning the POTENTIAL of EVIL is already there. There is no such thing as the absence of GOOD and EVIL. They are PURE POTENTIALITIES that if we Actualize them, we will know if they are GOOD or BAD according to the EFFECTS of our ACTIONS (LAW of KARMA). You don't need to read the bible to know what is GOOD or BAD. You only have to experiment by observing and doing it.

  5. #275
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Those are not excuses they are part of our reality. The LAW of DUALITY or The LAW of OPPOSITES is not man made creation. In fact before a man is born, the LAW of DUALITY already exists. Meaning the POTENTIAL of EVIL is already there. There is no such thing as the absence of GOOD and EVIL. They are PURE POTENTIALITIES that if we Actualize them, we will know if they are GOOD or BAD according to the EFFECTS of our ACTIONS (LAW of KARMA). You don't need to read the bible to know what is GOOD or BAD. You only have to experiment by observing and doing it.
    see in upper post you refer to the bible, then when I answered you post like this "You don't need to read the bible to know what is GOOD or BAD.".

    unsa ka bro, SIPON, sulod og gawas sa ilong hadlok maiinitan kay mugahi og mahimong kugmo?

    kung unsa imo pagtuo ayaw iapil ang bible kay nikuha kag issue sa bible nya gusto nimo tubagon tika sa LAW of DUALITY or LAW of OPPOSITES?

    Peace!

  6. #276
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    see in upper post you refer to the bible, then when I answered you post like this "You don't need to read the bible to know what is GOOD or BAD.".

    unsa ka bro, SIPON, sulod og gawas sa ilong hadlok maiinitan kay mugahi og mahimong kugmo?

    kung unsa imo pagtuo ayaw iapil ang bible kay nikuha kag issue sa bible nya gusto nimo tubagon tika sa LAW of DUALITY or LAW of OPPOSITES?

    Peace!
    kung naay pangutana, tubagon. kung wala kay ikatubag, sulti lang.

  7. #277
    Quote Originally Posted by NASYO View Post
    kung naay pangutana, tubagon. kung wala kay ikatubag, sulti lang.
    gitubag na nako, dili lang mao ang naa sa iya utok og sa imohang utok mao nga muingon mo nga walay ikatubag.

    Peace!

  8. #278
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    gitubag na nako, dili lang mao ang naa sa iya utok og sa imohang utok mao nga muingon mo nga walay ikatubag.

    Peace!
    mao ba? unsa man imong tubag?

  9. #279
    Quote Originally Posted by NASYO View Post
    mao ba? unsa man imong tubag?
    basahag balik.

    PEace!

  10. #280
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    basahag balik.

    PEace!
    link lang para click lang nako..

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