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  1. #521

    Quote Originally Posted by gabstafari View Post
    i think no one can deny that we all came from only one church. i think everyone here knows that already.

    ang mga protestante nangabot nalang na tungod sa mga abuso sa mga kapari-an sa una unya discourage dayun sila.

    but still its the church nga gi tukod ni Christ.

    we just have to remember JUDAS, PETER, THOMAS, PAUL, et.


    mao sad na. daghan mga bogoy pero pinangga sa Ginoo. ahehehehehehe.

    its up to us nga mag binuotan nalang ta.

    the road between hell and heaven lies opon our every desicions kung asa ta gusto.
    kay naay tig evaluate sa akong mga lihok. ahehehehe


    unya kung pangutan-on ko aning poll, kabalo na mo sa akong answer.



    and i also think that religion can also save us. kay kung dili

    unsa pamay rason why nag buhat si JESUS og church?

    "and upon this rock, i will build my church"

    what church?

    <quote>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Church#Origin_and_mission</qoute>
    so sa pagquote nimo sa Matthew 16:18 imo dayon gisuportahan og link nga gikan sa wikipedia nga "ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH".

    mao ba gyud ang giingon sa bible?
    nya ang doctrine ba sa ROMAN CATHOLIC mao ba ang gitudlo ni JESUS nga nahisulat sa BIBLE?
    basaha ang Matthew 28:19-20.

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    so sa pagquote nimo sa Matthew 16:18 imo dayon gisuportahan og link nga gikan sa wikipedia nga "ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH".

    mao ba gyud ang giingon sa bible?
    nya ang doctrine ba sa ROMAN CATHOLIC mao ba ang gitudlo ni JESUS nga nahisulat sa BIBLE?
    basaha ang Matthew 28:19-20.

    Peace!
    Granting dili na ang Catholic church sa Matthew 16:18, so unsa man diay to nga church? ang church of god international?

  3. #523
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    Granting dili na ang Catholic church sa Matthew 16:18, so unsa man diay to nga church? ang church of god international?
    "Unto the Church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:" - 1 Corinthian 1:1

  4. #524
    so meaning. gi tukod ni Jesus ang Iglesia tapus na revived lang ang iglesia pag tukod ni soriano sa Church of God........... international pa jud.

    Church of God Global nalang na para dako2x

    ayaw lang universal

    kay Catholic means Universal man. ahehehehehe

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    Church of GOD international kay dili mana original kang Soriano. Peke mana ilang simbahan ug relihiyonl pangilad nang DAKO!!!

  6. #526
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Church of GOD international kay dili mana original kang Soriano. Peke mana ilang simbahan ug relihiyonl pangilad nang DAKO!!!
    You can never prove it reg. Kay dili na tinood.

    Then mo copy paste na pud ka sa mga post nga chissmiss nga purely accusations and allegation. what a poor boy.

    OT: This coming April, Bible Exposition hosted by Bro Eli. Please visit nya reg para ikaw jud mismo ang maka testify nga nangilad jud mi, and not a copy paste from anywhere.
    post lang nya nako kung asa ang venue og ang exact date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kowkruche View Post
    You can never prove it reg. Kay dili na tinood.

    Then mo copy paste na pud ka sa mga post nga chissmiss nga purely accusations and allegation. what a poor boy.

    OT: This coming April, Bible Exposition hosted by Bro Eli. Please visit nya reg para ikaw jud mismo ang maka testify nga nangilad jud mi, and not a copy paste from anywhere.
    post lang nya nako kung asa ang venue og ang exact date.

    The Members Church of God International (MCGI) known colloquially by the television show it produces, Ang Dating Daan, is a Christian denomination with headquarters in the Philippines. The Church of God International is primarily known through its television program, Ang Dating Daan (The Old Path). The organization is formerly known by many names, such as Iglesia Ni YHWH at ni YHWSA HMSYH and Church of God in Christ, the Pillar and Ground of the Truth (Mga Kaanib sa Iglesia Ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan sa Bansang Pilipinas, Inc) among others[1] (see Legal Problems). It is not related to the many Church of God groups that descended from the Barney Creek Meeting House revival of the late 1800s in the United States. While calling itself a Christian denomination, it is considered to be a cult[1] by nearly all mainstream Christian denominations due to their belief that only the leader of their church (Eliseo Soriano) can interpret and understand the Bible, that Jesus Christ, while "a" god is a lesser god than the Father, and that God is not Omniscient or Omnipresent.

    SEE! Dili man gani mo related sa CHURCH of GOD of the late 1800s in the UNITED STATES. Kanus-a raman na gi register ni Eli boy inyong Members Church of God International? Daghan gani mo pangaln sa inyong relihiyon. Asa naman inyong baruganan beh beh beh!

    KULTO man diay mo brad! Hibaw-an na sa tibuok kalibutan! PANGILAD SAD MO DA!!!

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    Nicholas Perez's split with Ora

    In 1931, Nicholas Perez with Avelino Santiago left and started their own group called Iglesia ng Diyos kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan (English Translation: Church of God in Christ Jesus, Pillar and Support of The Truth). According to Eliseo Soriano, Nicholas Perez was already preaching this Church way back in 1928 at Pulilan, Bulacan but according to INC sources, Nicholas Perez was still with the Iglesia ng Diyos kay Kristo Hesus founded by Ora.
    It was not until December 10, 1936 that the Church of Nicholas Perez, Iglesia ng Diyos kay Cristo Hesus Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan was officially registered in the Bureau of Commerce and Industry. In 1954, Avelino Santiago, Nicholas Perez’ co-founder of Iglesia ng Diyos kay Cristo Hesus Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan left the group and established his own church, Iglesia ng Diyos na Buhay kay Kristo Hesus.

    [edit] Eliseo Soriano's split with the group

    After the death of Nicholas Perez, a woman named Levita Gugulan was appointed to lead the Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan as the Church Presiding Minister. Eliseo Soriano was a signatory on July 11, 1975 to the appointment of Gugulan. A month after, he again signed a memorandum stating that anyone who opposes their Church administration will be suspended and expelled.[citation needed]
    On January 2, 1976, Eliseo Soriano was then appointed by Levita Gugulan as one of their church’s Board of Directors. There were fifteen members of the Board. On February 21, 1976, he was expelled together with sixteen other members for inciting rebellion inside the church and teaching doctrines contrary to their beliefs. Soriano maintains that he was not expelled but voluntarily left his church as he firmly believes that a woman should not lead the church according to the bible[3].

    [edit] Establishment of the Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan

    On March 30, 1977, two years after the death of Perez, Eliseo Soriano and followers registered his own group and called it the Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan (English Translation: Church of God in Christ Jesus, The Pillar and Ground of the Truth) claiming that the name reflects the exact translation in Tagalog of the word hedraioma[3] of 1 Timothy 3:15[4] in the Greek Scriptures instead of the word Suhay used by Gugulan's group.[4]. According to Soriano, the most exact translation of hedraioma is Ground or Saligan in Tagalog and not Support or Suhay in Tagalog[5]. A year later, one of his members Filomeno Hizon left him and established his own church, the Mga Mananampalataya sa Iglesia ng Diyos Kay Kristo Hesus, Incorporated which was registered only on June 20, 1984.

    [edit] Lawsuit from Gugulan

    It seemed to Gugulan that Soriano had simply substituted the word “Suhay” to “Saligan”. Gugulan’s church then filed a lawsuit against Soriano on July 16, 1979 for using a similar church name. While the case was in progress he managed to register another church name, Ang mga Kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan sa Bansang Pilipinas, Incorporated(English Translation: The Members of The Church of God in Christ Jesus, Pillar and Ground of the Truth, Philippines, Incorporated) on January 20, 1980. Soriano's group lost in 1988 and was ordered by Securities and Exchange Commission to change its church name to one that is not similar to Gugulan's group.[6]
    In 1993, Levita Gugulan’s successor Maximino Nieto found out that the name Soriano registered in 1980 is almost identical to his church. Soriano, aware of the possibility of being sued, registered the church name Bayan ng Katotohanan Incorporated(English Translation: City of Truth Incorporated) in December 1993 before Nieto’s group was able to file another complaint against him. Nieto subsequently filed a complaint against Soriano's group in 1994 but while the case was still in progress, Soriano registered another name, the Iglesia ni YHWH at ni YHWSA HMSYH, Inc. (English Translation: Church of YHWH and of YHWSA HMSYH, Inc.). In 1995, Soriano's group lost and was ordered to change its church name not similar or identical to a name already used by Nieto's Group. The Court of Appeals denied Soriano's appeal in 1997 and Soriano was forced to change his church name to “Bayan ng Katotohanan” and later to “Iglesia ni YHWH at ni YHWSA HMSYH”. The decision was finalized by the Supreme Court of the Philippines in 2001.[6] Despite the name change, Soriano maintains that they are still the Iglesia ng Dios ng Kay Kristo Hesus Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan that Nicholas Perez preached.

    [edit] Name changed to Members Church of God International



    Balik balikon gyud ni nako brad so that THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW that your church is FALSE!

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    Nicholas Perez's split with Ora

    In 1931, Nicholas Perez with Avelino Santiago left and started their own group called Iglesia ng Diyos kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan (English Translation: Church of God in Christ Jesus, Pillar and Support of The Truth). According to Eliseo Soriano, Nicholas Perez was already preaching this Church way back in 1928 at Pulilan, Bulacan but according to INC sources, Nicholas Perez was still with the Iglesia ng Diyos kay Kristo Hesus founded by Ora.
    It was not until December 10, 1936 that the Church of Nicholas Perez, Iglesia ng Diyos kay Cristo Hesus Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan was officially registered in the Bureau of Commerce and Industry. In 1954, Avelino Santiago, Nicholas Perez’ co-founder of Iglesia ng Diyos kay Cristo Hesus Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan left the group and established his own church, Iglesia ng Diyos na Buhay kay Kristo Hesus.

    [edit] Eliseo Soriano's split with the group

    After the death of Nicholas Perez, a woman named Levita Gugulan was appointed to lead the Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan as the Church Presiding Minister. Eliseo Soriano was a signatory on July 11, 1975 to the appointment of Gugulan. A month after, he again signed a memorandum stating that anyone who opposes their Church administration will be suspended and expelled.[citation needed]
    On January 2, 1976, Eliseo Soriano was then appointed by Levita Gugulan as one of their church’s Board of Directors. There were fifteen members of the Board. On February 21, 1976, he was expelled together with sixteen other members for inciting rebellion inside the church and teaching doctrines contrary to their beliefs. Soriano maintains that he was not expelled but voluntarily left his church as he firmly believes that a woman should not lead the church according to the bible[3].

    [edit] Establishment of the Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan

    On March 30, 1977, two years after the death of Perez, Eliseo Soriano and followers registered his own group and called it the Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan (English Translation: Church of God in Christ Jesus, The Pillar and Ground of the Truth) claiming that the name reflects the exact translation in Tagalog of the word hedraioma[3] of 1 Timothy 3:15[4] in the Greek Scriptures instead of the word Suhay used by Gugulan's group.[4]. According to Soriano, the most exact translation of hedraioma is Ground or Saligan in Tagalog and not Support or Suhay in Tagalog[5]. A year later, one of his members Filomeno Hizon left him and established his own church, the Mga Mananampalataya sa Iglesia ng Diyos Kay Kristo Hesus, Incorporated which was registered only on June 20, 1984.

    [edit] Lawsuit from Gugulan

    It seemed to Gugulan that Soriano had simply substituted the word “Suhay” to “Saligan”. Gugulan’s church then filed a lawsuit against Soriano on July 16, 1979 for using a similar church name. While the case was in progress he managed to register another church name, Ang mga Kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan sa Bansang Pilipinas, Incorporated(English Translation: The Members of The Church of God in Christ Jesus, Pillar and Ground of the Truth, Philippines, Incorporated) on January 20, 1980. Soriano's group lost in 1988 and was ordered by Securities and Exchange Commission to change its church name to one that is not similar to Gugulan's group.[6]
    In 1993, Levita Gugulan’s successor Maximino Nieto found out that the name Soriano registered in 1980 is almost identical to his church. Soriano, aware of the possibility of being sued, registered the church name Bayan ng Katotohanan Incorporated(English Translation: City of Truth Incorporated) in December 1993 before Nieto’s group was able to file another complaint against him. Nieto subsequently filed a complaint against Soriano's group in 1994 but while the case was still in progress, Soriano registered another name, the Iglesia ni YHWH at ni YHWSA HMSYH, Inc. (English Translation: Church of YHWH and of YHWSA HMSYH, Inc.). In 1995, Soriano's group lost and was ordered to change its church name not similar or identical to a name already used by Nieto's Group. The Court of Appeals denied Soriano's appeal in 1997 and Soriano was forced to change his church name to “Bayan ng Katotohanan” and later to “Iglesia ni YHWH at ni YHWSA HMSYH”. The decision was finalized by the Supreme Court of the Philippines in 2001.[6] Despite the name change, Soriano maintains that they are still the Iglesia ng Dios ng Kay Kristo Hesus Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan that Nicholas Perez preached.

    [edit] Name changed to Members Church of God International



    Balik balikon gyud ni nako brad so that THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW that your church is FALSE!

  10. #530
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    SEE! Dili man gani mo related sa CHURCH of GOD of the late 1800s in the UNITED STATES. Kanus-a raman na gi register ni Eli boy inyong Members Church of God International? Daghan gani mo pangaln sa inyong relihiyon. Asa naman inyong baruganan beh beh beh!

    KULTO man diay mo brad! Hibaw-an na sa tibuok kalibutan! PANGILAD SAD MO DA!!!
    copy paste man ka ana nga otro man pud ang author ana wala kauyon sa MCGI. mao ni ingon sya nga KULTO.

    for more info about MCGI. please check YouTube - ADDbyDemand's Channel

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