Members Church of God International - False Church

[josephdc]

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^ So true...

[ilovedogs]

this post of yours really shows that you didn't understand the bible.
Where did you read in the bible that RELIGION CAN SAVE?
religion is part of salvation, its like a medicine.
you must take it in order to take effect.
dili kay kung naa ka religion luwas ka dayon or ang imo religion maoy makapaluwas nimo.
naa kay buhaton, imo tumanon ang mga balaod una ka maluwas, so kung dili ka mutuman kay hayag pa sa pahak imo kadaut.

SISTER/BROTHER: basaha balik ang meaning sa religion (relationship na siya) mixed up lang ka tungod sa imo pastor.

ang pakigrelasyon sa GINOO kay ang pagtuman sa iya mga pulong og ang usa sa iyang mga pulong kay musulod kita sa Iglesia or CHurch nga mao iya kaharian.

are you a BORN AGAIN?
or BAPTIST?

Peace!

huh? where in the world did you get the notion that religion saves?! asa mn pud na sa bible nga ang religion makasave? and dont tell me that im mixed up because of my pastor, dont make me look like you. you depend so much on what your leaders say that you don't look for the truth yourself. i never read in the bible that a religion saves. never. for one to be saved one has to be born again, accepted Christ as his/her personal Lord and savior. then you ask me if im a born again? do you know what born again means? if you dont consider yourself to have born again, then wla gyud diay ka naluwas. all Christians are BORN AGAIN.

isa pa, i did not say that religion is not necessary. i only said that it can't save. you sound like kamo ray maluwas... unsa mo chosen people?hehehe

[ilovedogs]

mao ni ang resulta sa dili magbasa og tinud-anay sa biblia.
nya kung makahatag ko nimog verse nga gi-allow sa biblia?
nya sa imo gi-quote nga "LOVE THINE ENEMY" kasabot ka sa meaning ana gikan sa biblia?
kahibalo baka nga ang dili pagtuman sa pulong sa GINOO kay kontra ka sa GINOO?
so walay labot nga higugmaon ang KONTRA/ENEMY sa GINOO, ang GIINGON sa biblia kay "THY/THINE/IMONG kontra/enemy ang higugma-on dili ang KONTRA SA GINOO.
basa biblia ayaw sige paminaw sa imo leader sa iya own explanation, pangayu-i og verse aron makita ang katag.



yes sakto ka walay makahibalo kung kinsa ang maluwas kay wala pamay katapusan.
wala ta kahibalo sa ugma, kay kung magtinarong ka karon nya inig ugma kay wala naka nituman sa iyahang pulong kay mahulog sa wala ang tanan. ang pag-alagad aron makasiguro sa kaluwasan kay hangtud sa katapusan. Ang ato kalampusan kay ato mabaton kung mahukman nata.
We will be saved if we obtained judgment or after judgment.
Mao bitaw ang GINOO ang m0-judge sa mga butang nga dili nato makita kay siya ra ang makakita sa ato kasing-kasing.
kinsa man pud ang nag-ingon nimo nga ang preacher walay sala? imo pastor/leader?
ayaw tan-awa ilang sala kungdi tan-awa ang ilang gisangyaw kung naa ba sa bible or wla.

Peace!

naconfuse ko nimo. i think you did not get my point.

that's why i said to love your enemy kay mao na gisulti ni Jesus. wala ko niingon nga pag-away, lalis mo. i was telling some of the people nga ngbinirahay diri to stop their beckering kay ingon si Jesus love your enemies!

AND I DID NOT SAY THAT PREACHERS ARE BLAMELESS! ingon pa gani ko taw lng na sila, makasala pud sila. i dint say that they're blameless! nga wla sila kasuway nga makasala.

and why do you keep on saying "among bible". ngano man? lahi tag bible? kay kng lahi tag bible, karon palang ingnaon na tika that you have the wrong copy!

[ilovedogs]

di ko ganahan uban denomination ba kay they think na sila ra gyud ang maluwas because they belong to the one and only church. what makes you so special nga kamo ramn ang maluwas? salvation is for everyone. not to a select few lang. the only requirement God/Jesus ever gave for one to be saved is to accept Jesus / believe Jesus / live a Christlike life from then on. wla niingon nga you have to belong to a special church for you to be saved.

[gabstafari]

i think no one can deny that we all came from only one church. i think everyone here knows that already.

ang mga protestante nangabot nalang na tungod sa mga abuso sa mga kapari-an sa una unya discourage dayun sila.

but still its the church nga gi tukod ni Christ.

we just have to remember JUDAS, PETER, THOMAS, PAUL, et.


mao sad na. daghan mga bogoy pero pinangga sa Ginoo. ahehehehehehe.

its up to us nga mag binuotan nalang ta.

the road between hell and heaven lies opon our every desicions kung asa ta gusto.
kay naay tig evaluate sa akong mga lihok. ahehehehe


unya kung pangutan-on ko aning poll, kabalo na mo sa akong answer.



and i also think that religion can also save us. kay kung dili

unsa pamay rason why nag buhat si JESUS og church?

"and upon this rock, i will build my church"

what church?

<quote>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Church#Origin_and_mission</qoute>

[vulture08]

di ko ganahan uban denomination ba kay they think na sila ra gyud ang maluwas because they belong to the one and only church. what makes you so special nga kamo ramn ang maluwas? salvation is for everyone. not to a select few lang. the only requirement God/Jesus ever gave for one to be saved is to accept Jesus / believe Jesus / live a Christlike life from then on. wla niingon nga you have to belong to a special church for you to be saved.

Yah sakto baya gyud ka nga.....Salvation is for everyone,Wala man cguro ngsulti si rcruman nga sak2 ang iyang church dba?
He was emphasizing about those people who really criticized Bro.Eli Soriano,Pero wla mi mahimo nla kung cge sla pangdaut naa btaw nkahibaw kung unsa gyud ang binuhatan ni Bro. ELI

no NEED 2 MENTION his name..... Kung kinsa!!!!1

[vulture08]

huh? where in the world did you get the notion that religion saves?! asa mn pud na sa bible nga ang religion makasave? and dont tell me that im mixed up because of my pastor, dont make me look like you. you depend so much on what your leaders say that you don't look for the truth yourself. i never read in the bible that a religion saves. never. for one to be saved one has to be born again, accepted Christ as his/her personal Lord and savior. then you ask me if im a born again? do you know what born again means? if you dont consider yourself to have born again, then wla gyud diay ka naluwas. all Christians are BORN AGAIN.

isa pa, i did not say that religion is not necessary. i only said that it can't save. you sound like kamo ray maluwas... unsa mo chosen people?hehehe

Dili ingun ana ang pasabot ni rcruman uy....Wat he means is dli lng 2ngod sa Religion ka maluwas kinahanglan ng Follow ka sa mga kasuguan ni Christ...Dba?
ayaw gud react dayon.....hehehehehe.....Mao ni ask cya if Born Again ka or Protestant kay ang belief nla kay RELIGION ONLY CAN SAVE.....Its FAITH WITH WORKS MY DEAR,Dli lng kay kung naa nka sa usa ka Congregation save naka...

[rcruman]

huh? where in the world did you get the notion that religion saves?! asa mn pud na sa bible nga ang religion makasave?
isa pa, i did not say that religion is not necessary. i only said that it can't save. you sound like kamo ray maluwas... unsa mo chosen people?hehehe

toink! naunsa naman ka intawon. imo man ko balikon og pangutana, basaha balik imo mga post diba mao man na imo gibarugan nga RELIGION DOESN"T SAVE? ay ko ingna nilubad kag kalit?
ang naa sa imo utok kay ayaw ibutang sa amoa, unsa imo pagsabot kay ayaw ipahid sa amoa, basa bible aron ka makaamgo.

and dont tell me that im mixed up because of my pastor, dont make me look like you. you depend so much on what your leaders say that you don't look for the truth yourself. i never read in the bible that a religion saves. never. for one to be saved one has to be born again, accepted Christ as his/her personal Lord and savior. then you ask me if im a born again? do you know what born again means? if you dont consider yourself to have born again, then wla gyud diay ka naluwas. all Christians are BORN AGAIN.

No I didn't depend on our leader, I depend on GOD and in the bible.
mao bitaw nangutana ko sa imoha kung naa bay mabasa nga religion save, kay niingon man ka nga religion doesn't save, its like black and white.
FYI lang, in the bible it was never mentioned that RELIGION SAVES.
Religion is part of the CHURCH and it doesn't mean that if you're a member you're save already or automatically, PEOPLE/MEMBER must perform or observe the commandments or laws inside the CHURCH and will be successful until the end of their lives or until judgment.
Bro I KNOW WHAT IS BORN AGAIN.
kahibalo baka mutubag og pangutana? kay imo raman ibalik sa akoa ang ako mga question.
tarong, makatubag ka or dili?

asa man ka kabasa nga "all CHRISTIANS are BORN AGAIN?
tubag pud intawon.

isa pa, i did not say that religion is not necessary. i only said that it can't save. you sound like kamo ray maluwas... unsa mo chosen people?hehehe

o naa ba diay ko giingon sa imoha nga niingon ka nga religion is not necessary, pagtarung diha oi.
if its what your brain sound to my post bahala ka, kay wala or never ko niingon nga kami ray maluwas.
in fact niingon man gani ko nga dili ta sure maluwas hangtud wala pa mahuman ang ato pag-alagad or hangtud wala pa ang judgment.

basa pud tarong.

Peace!

[rcruman]

naconfuse ko nimo. i think you did not get my point.

you will be really confused because I post different from your principles.

that's why i said to love your enemy kay mao na gisulti ni Jesus. wala ko niingon nga pag-away, lalis mo. i was telling some of the people nga ngbinirahay diri to stop their beckering kay ingon si Jesus love your enemies!

mao lagi ang gisulti ni Jesus kinsa may nagingon nimo nga dili.
ikaw ba ayaw post nga mugawas nga ako nisupak sa bible.
again basaha lagi balik ako post, ang kinatibuk-an.
niingon ko nga ang KONTRA SA GINOO kay katong dili mutuman sa iyahang pulong og sugo.
so sa imo tan-aw kining MGA TAO NGA NISUPAK OR WALA NITUMAN SA IYA PULONG, kontra sa GINOO or DILI? tubaga.

mao niy nakaapan sa mga tao nga sama nimo, mubasa sa bible by verse ra nya dayon conclude.

AND I DID NOT SAY THAT PREACHERS ARE BLAMELESS! ingon pa gani ko taw lng na sila, makasala pud sila. i dint say that they're blameless! nga wla sila kasuway nga makasala.
and why do you keep on saying "among bible". ngano man? lahi tag bible? kay kng lahi tag bible, karon palang ingnaon na tika that you have the wrong copy!

wrong copy? then show me the right copy!


og kini kay gihagit ko ikaw nga ipost og balik kung giingnan tika og:

and why do you keep on saying "among bible". ngano man?

naa pa gyud ka gipost nga "keep on saying".

ipakita bro/sis nga nipost kog "among bible" sa imoha.
tumo-tumo man ang imoha.

PEace!

[rcruman]

di ko ganahan uban denomination ba kay they think na sila ra gyud ang maluwas because they belong to the one and only church. what makes you so special nga kamo ramn ang maluwas? salvation is for everyone. not to a select few lang. the only requirement God/Jesus ever gave for one to be saved is to accept Jesus / believe Jesus / live a Christlike life from then on. wla niingon nga you have to belong to a special church for you to be saved.

nya kung makahatag ko nimog verse nga kinahanglan musulod or mabelong gyud ka sa IGLESIA/CHURCH?

og kinsa man pud intawon nga mga denomination nga nag think na sila ra gyud ang maluwas?

daghan klase ang kaluwasan sister, in fact gusto sa GINOO nga maluwas ang tanang tawo.

Peace!