God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

[amingb]

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The Existence of God is Not By Proof But By Faith ..

- Amingb --

[regnauld]

The Existence of God is Not By Proof But By Faith ..

- Amingb --

Again you are correct according to your BELIEF!

[amingb]

Again you are correct according to your BELIEF!

Because we cannot see God, we cant prove God by Science and Philiosphy or Mathematics.

Faith is a Solid Proof of God Existence since Faith can move Mountains ..

[flying fish]

Because we cannot see God, we cant prove God by Science and Philiosphy or Mathematics.

Faith is a Solid Proof of God Existence since Faith can move Mountains ..

let me just repeat ths lines-

Faith is a SOLID PROOF of god existence, i thought in the absence of solid proof then faith comes in,
Faith can move mountains, well i can live w/ that,
but for the moment your right according to your belief system

[amingb]

If Once belief is Reasoning then you cant proved His existence its beyond your wildest imagination.

[regnauld]

We need this: BALANCE and HARMONY!

YIN (ATHEISM)

YANG (THEISM)

[flying fish]

If Once belief is Reasoning then you cant proved His existence its beyond your wildest imagination.

Faith/belief is normal, in fact that maintains our sanity in a very chaotic/uncertain world we live in, reasoning is also normal since we are a thinking animal, its only when reason fails that one is apt to avail of faith, & for me its ok,
& its also fine if people doesn't avail of faith but to wait for some empirical truth to someday appear in their microscope or telescope,
on the other hand to say that Faith is the solid proof of gods existence is for me too much of a claim, in fact faith has nothing to do w/ proof/evidence, that's the beauty w/ faith,

& for me if god really exist whether personal, impersonal, pantheistic, etc,
our belief or non belief does not diminish or add to his existence, my personal opinion lang

[diehard96]

wa man ni challenge...

[LIST=1][*]ARGUMENT FROM LOVE
(3) So what is the cause of love? Isn't it God?

available evidence does not point to any god.

Am I right or not?

it's alright to ask questions most of the time.

4) Therefore, God exists.

i don't see the logic of deriving a conclusion from questions.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM IDENTITY (PC ARGUMENT)
(1) Believing in God is a central part of my identity.
(2) You don't mean to deny my identity do you?

why not?

[*]ARGUMENT FROM FORMATTING
(1) Behold, foolish atheists, I present you with an incontrovertible proof of the existence of God.
(2) [Christian posts 10,000 word document without a single paragraph break.]
(3) [Atheist's eyes implode.]
(4) I see that nobody can refute (2).
(5) Therefore, God exists.

nganong mi implode man?

[*]ARGUMENT FROM NON-CONFRONTATION
(1) I am not here to argue with you atheists.
(2) But come on, God obviously exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

arguing in a circle

[*]ARGUMENT FROM EXODUS
(3) There is absolutely no other way that chariots could get to the bottom of the Red Sea.

if there are many ways that airplanes can be found in the bottom of oceans, why can't be any other way chariot wheels could get to the bottom of the red sea?

[*]ARGUMENT FROM MARTYRDOM
(1) The apostles would not have died for something they knew wasn't true.

the history of people dying for something inane, at times even insane, is long.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM TINKERBELL
(2) If you wish for something really hard, it'll come true.

wishful thinking. learn to separate reality from fantasy.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF DISPROOF
(1) You can't prove God doesn't exist!
(2) Therefore, God exists.

argumentum ad ignorantiam

[*]ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE (I)
(1) I once experienced something I can't explain.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

non sequitor

[*]ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE (II)
(1) I have experienced feelings of God's presence in my mind.

there are experiences. there are interpretations of experiences. they do not necessarily correspond.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM NEUROSCIENCE
(1) Scientists say a portion of our brain may be responsible for mystical experiences.

maslow calls them peak experiences to avoid any religious interpretation.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM EYEWITNESS
(1) Someone wrote the creation story in the Bible.

erik von daniken wrote chariots of the gods, but that does not prove the existence of aliens.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF EYEWITNESS (I)

the same can be said of creation, but self-respecting nonbelievers have enough intellectual discipline to avoid making stupid conclusions from it.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF EYEWITNESS (II)
(1) No one's ever seen one species turn into another.

because there's no sign it ever happened. and the idea of god has nothing to do whether it ever happened or not. very lame red herring.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM HALF A WING
(1) Half of a wing is useless!

some animals proliferate even without the benefit of a brain.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM PREFERRED ANCESTRY
(1) I don't want to be related to monkeys.

reality is about "what is," not what a person wants. it's called objectivity.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM FOOLISHNESS
(1) The Bible says atheists are fools.
(2) I don't want to be a fool.

again, reality is about "what is," not what a person wants.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM PIG'S TEETH

it could be the teeth of the loch ness monster and still it would not have anything to do with god.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (I)
(1) Someone made fun of my faith.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

this is nice. history tells us about the crusades, the inquisition...until the present terrorism. "making fun" pales in comparison to what the believers had done to nonbelievers.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (II)
(2) I am an idiot.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

i don't think that makes you credible enough then.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (III)
(1) You atheists are mean!

wa mi apil mga agnostics?

[*]ARGUMENT FROM JESUS SAID STUFF

popular culture is full of people who say stuff, and they don't even make sense.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM DIFFERENCES
(1) The Christian God is different than the gods of other religions.
(2) Therefore, the Christian God exists.

ang sa laing religion nag exist pud kun mao na. pero ang christianity monotheistic man, so di dapat mo acknowledge naay laing gods. either many gods exist or christianity is wrong.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM CHRISTIAN MORALITY
(10) (We are just ignoring all the not-nice things that Christians may or may not have done in the past, it's hard to trust history anyway

suppressing the facts.

[*]ARGUMENT FROM CRAZINESS, a.k.a. PERCHANCE'S SISTER'S ARGUMENT (I)
(1) I would go crazy if I didn't believe in God.
(2) I am not crazy.

negating the antecedent. ever heard of modus ponens and modus tollens?

[amingb]

Faith/belief is normal, in fact that maintains our sanity in a very chaotic/uncertain world we live in, reasoning is also normal since we are a thinking animal, its only when reason fails that one is apt to avail of faith, & for me its ok,
& its also fine if people doesn't avail of faith but to wait for some empirical truth to someday appear in their microscope or telescope,
on the other hand to say that Faith is the solid proof of gods existence is for me too much of a claim, in fact faith has nothing to do w/ proof/evidence, that's the beauty w/ faith,

& for me if god really exist whether personal, impersonal, pantheistic, etc,
our belief or non belief does not diminish or add to his existence, my personal opinion lang

Agree with u sir ...

Atheist and Unbelievers wants Solid proof, its hard to prove things which is not Solid nor Liquid, hehehe and God is a Spirit ...

[regnauld]

wa man ni challenge...


available evidence does not point to any god.

it's alright to ask questions most of the time.

i don't see the logic of deriving a conclusion from questions.

why not?

nganong mi implode man?

arguing in a circle

if there are many ways that airplanes can be found in the bottom of oceans, why can't be any other way chariot wheels could get to the bottom of the red sea?

the history of people dying for something inane, at times even insane, is long.

wishful thinking. learn to separate reality from fantasy.

argumentum ad ignorantiam

non sequitor

there are experiences. there are interpretations of experiences. they do not necessarily correspond.

maslow calls them peak experiences to avoid any religious interpretation.

erik von daniken wrote chariots of the gods, but that does not prove the existence of aliens.

the same can be said of creation, but self-respecting nonbelievers have enough intellectual discipline to avoid making stupid conclusions from it.

because there's no sign it ever happened. and the idea of god has nothing to do whether it ever happened or not. in short, red herring.

some animals proliferate even without the benefit of a brain.

reality is about "what is," not what a person wants. it's called objectivity.

again, reality is about "what is," not what a person wants.

it could be the teeth of the loch ness monster and still it would not have anything to do with god.

this is nice. history tells us about the crusades, the inquisition...until the present terrorism. "making fun" pales in comparison to what the believers had done to nonbelievers.

i don't think that makes you credible enough then.

wa mi apil mga agnostics?

popular culture is full of people who say stuff, and they don't even make sense.

ang sa laing religion nag exist pud kun mao na.[*]ARGUMENT FROM CHRISTIAN MORALITY
(10) (We are just ignoring all the not-nice things that Christians may or may not have done in the past, it's hard to trust history anyway

You are right according to your PERCEPTION!