Do You Believe in Magic?

[Alel]

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Real Magic is Self Transformation like turning lead into gold (The inner teaching of Alchemy)

So, lets take that change from lead to gold:

Is it meant literally, or figuratively?

[regnauld]

So, lets take that change from lead to gold:

Is it meant literally, or figuratively?

Ultimately, it's all symbolic and I am not here to discredit those people who says Ancient Alchemy has the power to turn lead into gold literally for that is an Exoteric teaching and I respect that too.

[flying fish]

Ambot lang ka ha to ka jesus ug historical gyud to nga panghitabo kay murag daghan man sya magic nabuhat, including sa bible stories-

1. jesus galakaw sa dagat (honas ba kaha or ta-ob)
2. turning water to wine
2. si lazarus nabuhi
3. si mary namabdos nga walay ni ku-an
4. nabuhat ang kalibutan in just 3 days (kani maoy grabi nga magic)
5. ang girl gikuha sa gusok sa lalake
6. talking snake sa garden of eden

[revi]

lisod sad ani oi, unsay magic. Look around you what see is magic. we are part on this magic fever!

[flying fish]

yes if one has the eye of appreciation, everything seems to bge magick

[josephdc]

I think that life has a magical quality. Reality is not just natural; there are supernatural realities, too. So magic must also exist; the only question is whether it's evil or good in nature.

[patrizekirsten]

let me comment on no. 2 :Turning Water into wine. It was actually a drinking session... since no soda at that they resort to water as their chezzer.. and when your drunk it seems like wine will be just like water. magic isnt it? heheh

[flying fish]

let me comment on no. 2 :Turning Water into wine. It was actually a drinking session... since no soda at that they resort to water as their chezzer.. and when your drunk it seems like wine will be just like water. magic isnt it? heheh

i like that cardinal,, in fact to make it more enlightening, when your drunk you can do magic, maminaw ko anang palahabog ug mahinomdom pud ko adtong akong pagkapalahubog sa una, sus murag ginoo oi, makabuhi ug patay ang mga istorya!
ambot lang ha mao siguro murag grabi maka himo ug promises ang pari simbahan kay ga inom man diay tood na ug wine, wala pa gyud ipasa ang tagay

[jaed121907]

Ambot lang ka ha to ka jesus ug historical gyud to nga panghitabo kay murag daghan man sya magic nabuhat, including sa bible stories-

1. jesus galakaw sa dagat (honas ba kaha or ta-ob)
2. turning water to wine
2. si lazarus nabuhi
3. si mary namabdos nga walay ni ku-an
4. nabuhat ang kalibutan in just 3 days (kani maoy grabi nga magic)
5. ang girl gikuha sa gusok sa lalake
6. talking snake sa garden of eden

It's not magic for your information. It's pure divine. And when you speak of divine, it's not magic or any sort.

[josephdc]

Ambot lang ka ha to ka jesus ug historical gyud to nga panghitabo kay murag daghan man sya magic nabuhat, including sa bible stories-

1. jesus galakaw sa dagat (honas ba kaha or ta-ob)
2. turning water to wine
2. si lazarus nabuhi
3. si mary namabdos nga walay ni ku-an
4. nabuhat ang kalibutan in just 3 days (kani maoy grabi nga magic)
5. ang girl gikuha sa gusok sa lalake
6. talking snake sa garden of eden

So they're not historical just because of the elements of miracles? Some people point out that it's erroneous to assume at the outset that there are no such things as miracles before studying the New Testament.