Those people who acknowledged the existence of GOD were not necessarily bible believers my friend. They were great models. Einstein was a Jew. Francis Bacon and Isaac Newton were Rosicrucians. Rene Descartes and Leonardo Da Vinci were Catholics but the latter was considered as heretic. These same people had a deep and profound understanding of spirituality and not so much on their religion or dogma my friend.
The argument here was atheists are more intelligent: AN ABSOLUTE FACT which for me is wrong and does not necessarily follow!
I think he has to qualify what it means to be intelligent. Intelligence is very broad and IQ is only one aspect!![]()
Last edited by regnauld; 02-20-2009 at 10:17 PM.
pagka chuy-chuy.
of course when i say you're dumb, that makes me intelligent.
...which of course is not always the case.
so who is one to say that one is intelligent and the other is dumb?
i'm just saying. peace in the whole world.
Oh great. so where is your proof? If you can't produce a proof of this, then you are just like the theists that you hate so much. You too believe in something that you can't provide any proof of. hahahaha all you have is your faith that atheists are more intelligent. thus, you, most likely an atheist, and the theists are very similar.
and also to lady_blackrose, you don't say "to see is to believe" that's is so not the case anymore. We can all be fooled by our senses. Optical illusions, sound illusions... Sometimes you get what you see sometimes you don't. I can't see my brain, I can't touch my brain, heck! that doesn't mean I don't have a brain right? there are just so many other ways to prove things, not just playing with senses.
Let's take a break and I want to share this joke with you guys.
There was a Christian lady who lived next door to an atheist. Every day, when the lady prayed, the atheist guy could hear her. He thought to himself, "She sure is crazy, praying all the time like that. Doesn't she know there isn't a God?"
Many times while she was praying, he would go to her house and harass her, saying "Lady, why do you pray all the time? Don't you know there is no God?" But she kept on praying.
One day, she ran out of groceries. As usual, she was praying to the Lord explaining her situation and thanking Him for what He was gonna do. As usual, the atheist heard her praying and thought to himself, "Humph! I'll fix her."
He went to the grocery store, bought a whole bunch of groceries, took them to her house, dropped them off on the front porch, rang the door bell and then hid in the bushes to see what she would do. When she opened the door and saw the groceries, she began to praise the Lord with all her heart, jumping, singing and shouting everywhere! The atheist then jumped out of the bushes and told her, "You ol' crazy lady, God didn't buy you those groceries, I bought those groceries!" At hearing this, she broke out and started running down the street, shouting and praising the Lord.
When he finally caught her, he asked what her problem was. She said, "I knew the Lord would provide me with some groceries, but I didn't know he was gonna make the devil pay for them!"![]()
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yeah. my point pud.
IMO lang ha, empirical means is not the way to roll kung mga ingani na sturyaan.
mga atheism, theism, chuvaness.
so murag, it's kinda dodo-ish kung muana ka di ka mutuo ug god kay wa man ka kita niya.
naa ta kay some other reason ba. wa lang.
it just seems really shallow and childish to have that as an excuse for having "deconverted" to atheism. and they say all atheists are intellectuals? bah. not all. weh.
just sayin'.![]()
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