Do you believe in Reincarnation?

[regnauld]

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mao gani,

gi unsa man nimo pag sure nga tinuod tong mga gipangsulti sa mga gipanghypnotize nga wla man silay kalibutan sa ilang mga gipangpulong?

and
sayop naka daan sa imong mga gipangsulti.
ingon ka ha nga ilang gi-adto ang lugar ug ang mga tao nga gimention sa gi-hypnotized?
naa pa diay tao nga buhi nga pede nila gamiton evidence nga nireincarnate man kaha siya?
i mean, katong mga gipang-interview kay mga 30yrs old+++ naman to,
nya so dapat, ang place ug ang mga tao kay wla na/patay na unta?
inig kamatay nimo reincarnate ka dayon at the same time?

i hope you get what i mean

Tinuod lagi to based on evidence sa mga gipangsulti sa gi hypnotized! Maka estorya gihapon ka bisag unconscious ka kay naa man kay memory bank. Gets?

Nganong sayop man ko? correct! ilang gi adto ang lugar nga gi mention kung naa ba gyud didto kay sometimes naa pa may nahabilin nga building or ruins ba kaha. Unya ang mga tawo nga gi mention of course, mga patay nato sila. Akong pasabot ilang gi research kung naa ba gyuy mga tawo nga ni exist in the past nga gi mention sa mga gi hypnotized! Ang mga scientists mo investigate sa pag tan - aw sa mga documents kung naa ba gyud kanang mga tawhana. Motoo ka ug sa dili, kay matag-naan man gyud nga naa! Gets na?

[k.A.i]

Tinuod lagi to based on evidence sa mga gipangsulti sa gi hypnotized! Maka estorya gihapon ka bisag unconscious ka kay naa man kay memory bank. Gets?

Nganong sayop man ko? correct! ilang gi adto ang lugar nga gi mention kung naa ba gyud didto kay sometimes naa pa may nahabilin nga building or ruins ba kaha. Unya ang mga tawo nga gi mention of course, mga patay nato sila. Akong pasabot ilang gi research kung naa ba gyuy mga tawo nga ni exist in the past nga gi mention sa mga gi hypnotized! Ang mga scientists mo investigate sa pag tan - aw sa mga documents kung naa ba gyud kanang mga tawhana. Motoo ka ug sa dili, kay matag-naan man gyud nga naa! Gets na?

wahahahehe

gi-unsa man nimo pag sure nga wla sila naka-anha anang lugara or wla sila ka kita sa tv anang lugara?

naa pa ay:

i dont believe in reincarnation kay i dont see any logic behind it. kana pud ilang gi ingon nga naay places nga mura og familiar bisan wla pa ka naka anha kay basin cguro naa kay place nga naad2 before nga quite similar sa lugar or perhaps naka damgo ka og usa ka lugar nga pareparehas og setting which is very possible. just think if true na ang de javu og reincarnation unya for example youre in your 20's, it means nga possibly at least 20yrs ago ka ni reincarnate. in a span og 20yrs, it would be very hard to recognize a certain place because most places in the world are rapidly changing.

[regnauld]

wahahahehe

gi-unsa man nimo pag sure nga wla sila naka-anha anang lugara or wla sila ka kita sa tv anang lugara?

naa pa ay:

remember katong mga gi-regress kay puro to sila mga australians and all of them, have never visited those places. you Want proof? Si Dr. Peter John Ramster maoy nag investigate sa ilang mga backgrund with another investigator. Mao gani gi banned kato sa church of australia kay ang simbahan dili mo-too ug reincarnation!

Study this from wikipedia if it is true or not!

YouTube - Reincarnation-Regression (banned video) 1/11

Peter John Ramster apparently has made more films than written books: see the Worldcat listing of his works. His other book appears to be The Truth about Reincarnation from 1980, which was published by Rigby, Ltd, Adelaide, South Australia, a general publishing company that published from the early 1900s through at least the 1980s (see for example). The blurb of the The Truth about Reincarnation (1980) says:

The astounding story of how psychologist Peter Ramster discovered that many of his patients could actually remember their past lives. While he was using hypnotherapy to help a patient with her problems, she suddenly spoke to him as a woman from another age Under trance, she told him that she had lived in California during the period of the American War of Independence. Having made this startling discovery. Peter Ramster researched further He soon found that all persons capable of deep trance could recall having lived at different times in some cases thousands of years ago and in different countries. In this book, giving genuine case-histories and transcripts from tape-recorded conversations, he tells the whole amazing story.

The blurb of The Search for Lives Past (1992) says:

In my efforts to discover the truth about reincarnation, I concentrated my research on the unconscious psyche of the subjects. First, I tried to remove all unconscious blocks, fears, repression and neuroses which might either hamper recall or create fantasy. The next step was to make the subject recall and ability he or she might have had during a previous existence, the ability to speak or write a different language, or some artistic talent which could not possibly have been learned in this life. All the while my main aim was to ascertain the truth.

I think that his first work is a reliable source insofar as it is published by a reputable publishing company in Australia. The first work also lends credence to the reliability of the second work. But perhaps these are not sufficient for sources for WP. The Victor Zammit link purports to be a summary of Ramster's work from several sources:

The following information is taken from Peter Ramster's very important book, In Search of Lives Past (1990) and from a speech he gave to the Australian Hypnotherapists ninth National Convention at the Sydney Sheraton Wentworth Hotel on the 27th March, 1994 and from the films he made on reincarnation. In 1983 he produced a stunning television documentary in which four women from Sydney, who had never been out of Australia, gave details under hypnosis of their past lives. Then, accompanied by television cameras and independent witnesses, they were taken to the other side of the world....

One could cite the original Ramster sources, using Zammit as providing a summary of that work, since the original material is not readily available. Again, that might not be adequate for WP. One can certainly order the two books via used book sellers. --EPadmirateur (talk) 22:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC) I have found interesting references to Ramsters work on youyube, but I'm unsure about wikipedia policy on references from there? Ian Lawton cites Ramsters work from "The Search For Lives Past" in his "The little book of the soul". Lawton reads himself in a series of youtube videos. Part 8, 9A & 9B is about Ramster's cases. YouTube - The Little Book of the Soul PART 8 YouTube - The Little Book of the Soul PART 9A YouTube - The Little Book of the Soul PART 9B Ramster's TV documentary from 1983 covering the same cases is also on youtube in 11 parts - #1 is here, YouTube - Reincarnation-Regression (banned video) 1/11 you can follow youtube's lead for the rest. Most interesting. Hepcat65 (talk) 16:12, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


Further references: to Peter Ramster's films on reincarnation:

• Peter Ramster and Brian Morris,Reincarnation, Sydney: Soundsense films (1982). OCLC 64353767.
• Peter Ramster, God doesn't play dice, Los Angeles, CA: Hemdale Home Video, Inc. (1991). OCLC 43043701. (I am presuming this is a film about reincarnation.)
• Peter Ramster, Life Death & Rebirth - A Film, no date given, listed on his web site:

A film about reincarnation and life after death - including case histories of children who prove their past life recollections and adults cured of lifelong afflictions through past life recall under hypnosis or who have had evidential near death experiences.

• Peter Ramster and Robert MacGregor, The Reincarnation Experiments, TV broadcast August 15, 2000. The description given on a University of Wollongong web page:

Two members of the University of Wollongong community have collaborated in the production of a documentary to be screened by Prime -TV on Tuesday 15 August. The film- 'The Reincarnation Experiments', documents the work of Peter Ramster, a practising psychologist of 30 years, who is studying immunology at UOW, while Information Systems senior Lecturer Robert MacGregor, has written the films soundtrack. 'The Reincarnation Experiments' focuses on the use of hypnosis by Peter Ramster to treat patients suffering psychological problems- in particular phobias and how, when hypnotised, some patients are able to provide detailed accounts of past lives.
"While treating patients I use hypnosis to take them back to their childhood in an attempt to identify the source of their individual problem or phobia, but I found some people spontaneously start talking about past lives", Mr Ramster said. Mr Ramster said since he began seriously examining the phenomena in the mid 70s he has had over 1,000 patients describe past lives to him while under hypnosis.
In an attempt "to extricate the memory’s fantasy from fact", Mr Ramster has hypnotised patients repeatedly over several years at intervals of six months, so as to correlate the information given and determine which specific facts remain consistent through time. "Boring people to tears over long periods of time", is how Mr Ramster describes his method of hypnosis.

After having viewed the documentary of Ramster's work from 1983 (on YouTube), I think the books and films are sufficiently reliable sources to document the essential features of Ramster's work. I think critical commentary that is directed generally to reincarnation regression or specifically toward Ramster's work also needs to be included. --EPadmirateur (talk) 04:13, 14 July

[regnauld]

wahahahehe

gi-unsa man nimo pag sure nga wla sila naka-anha anang lugara or wla sila ka kita sa tv anang lugara?

naa pa ay:

remember katong mga gi-regress and hypnotized kay puro to sila mga australians and all of them, have never visited those places outside australia. you Want proof? Si Dr. Peter John Ramster maoy nag investigate sa ilang mga backgrund with another investigator. Mao gani gi banned kato sa church of australia kay ang simbahan dili mo-too ug reincarnation!

Study this from wikipedia if it is true or not!

YouTube - Reincarnation-Regression (banned video) 1/11

Peter John Ramster apparently has made more films than written books: see the Worldcat listing of his works. His other book appears to be The Truth about Reincarnation from 1980, which was published by Rigby, Ltd, Adelaide, South Australia, a general publishing company that published from the early 1900s through at least the 1980s (see for example). The blurb of the The Truth about Reincarnation (1980) says:

The astounding story of how psychologist Peter Ramster discovered that many of his patients could actually remember their past lives. While he was using hypnotherapy to help a patient with her problems, she suddenly spoke to him as a woman from another age Under trance, she told him that she had lived in California during the period of the American War of Independence. Having made this startling discovery. Peter Ramster researched further He soon found that all persons capable of deep trance could recall having lived at different times in some cases thousands of years ago and in different countries. In this book, giving genuine case-histories and transcripts from tape-recorded conversations, he tells the whole amazing story.

The blurb of The Search for Lives Past (1992) says:

In my efforts to discover the truth about reincarnation, I concentrated my research on the unconscious psyche of the subjects. First, I tried to remove all unconscious blocks, fears, repression and neuroses which might either hamper recall or create fantasy. The next step was to make the subject recall and ability he or she might have had during a previous existence, the ability to speak or write a different language, or some artistic talent which could not possibly have been learned in this life. All the while my main aim was to ascertain the truth.

I think that his first work is a reliable source insofar as it is published by a reputable publishing company in Australia. The first work also lends credence to the reliability of the second work. But perhaps these are not sufficient for sources for WP. The Victor Zammit link purports to be a summary of Ramster's work from several sources:

The following information is taken from Peter Ramster's very important book, In Search of Lives Past (1990) and from a speech he gave to the Australian Hypnotherapists ninth National Convention at the Sydney Sheraton Wentworth Hotel on the 27th March, 1994 and from the films he made on reincarnation. In 1983 he produced a stunning television documentary in which four women from Sydney, who had never been out of Australia, gave details under hypnosis of their past lives. Then, accompanied by television cameras and independent witnesses, they were taken to the other side of the world....

One could cite the original Ramster sources, using Zammit as providing a summary of that work, since the original material is not readily available. Again, that might not be adequate for WP. One can certainly order the two books via used book sellers. --EPadmirateur (talk) 22:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC) I have found interesting references to Ramsters work on youyube, but I'm unsure about wikipedia policy on references from there? Ian Lawton cites Ramsters work from "The Search For Lives Past" in his "The little book of the soul". Lawton reads himself in a series of youtube videos. Part 8, 9A & 9B is about Ramster's cases. YouTube - The Little Book of the Soul PART 8 YouTube - The Little Book of the Soul PART 9A YouTube - The Little Book of the Soul PART 9B Ramster's TV documentary from 1983 covering the same cases is also on youtube in 11 parts - #1 is here, YouTube - Reincarnation-Regression (banned video) 1/11 you can follow youtube's lead for the rest. Most interesting. Hepcat65 (talk) 16:12, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


Further references: to Peter Ramster's films on reincarnation:

• Peter Ramster and Brian Morris,Reincarnation, Sydney: Soundsense films (1982). OCLC 64353767.
• Peter Ramster, God doesn't play dice, Los Angeles, CA: Hemdale Home Video, Inc. (1991). OCLC 43043701. (I am presuming this is a film about reincarnation.)
• Peter Ramster, Life Death & Rebirth - A Film, no date given, listed on his web site:

A film about reincarnation and life after death - including case histories of children who prove their past life recollections and adults cured of lifelong afflictions through past life recall under hypnosis or who have had evidential near death experiences.

• Peter Ramster and Robert MacGregor, The Reincarnation Experiments, TV broadcast August 15, 2000. The description given on a University of Wollongong web page:

Two members of the University of Wollongong community have collaborated in the production of a documentary to be screened by Prime -TV on Tuesday 15 August. The film- 'The Reincarnation Experiments', documents the work of Peter Ramster, a practising psychologist of 30 years, who is studying immunology at UOW, while Information Systems senior Lecturer Robert MacGregor, has written the films soundtrack. 'The Reincarnation Experiments' focuses on the use of hypnosis by Peter Ramster to treat patients suffering psychological problems- in particular phobias and how, when hypnotised, some patients are able to provide detailed accounts of past lives.
"While treating patients I use hypnosis to take them back to their childhood in an attempt to identify the source of their individual problem or phobia, but I found some people spontaneously start talking about past lives", Mr Ramster said. Mr Ramster said since he began seriously examining the phenomena in the mid 70s he has had over 1,000 patients describe past lives to him while under hypnosis.
In an attempt "to extricate the memory’s fantasy from fact", Mr Ramster has hypnotised patients repeatedly over several years at intervals of six months, so as to correlate the information given and determine which specific facts remain consistent through time. "Boring people to tears over long periods of time", is how Mr Ramster describes his method of hypnosis.

After having viewed the documentary of Ramster's work from 1983 (on YouTube), I think the books and films are sufficiently reliable sources to document the essential features of Ramster's work. I think critical commentary that is directed generally to reincarnation regression or specifically toward Ramster's work also needs to be included. --EPadmirateur (talk) 04:13, 14 July

[k.A.i]

waheheeeehehhehe taasa sad anang mga gipangpost nimo oi nga wa gihapoy tarong nga explaination
and maong gibanned na kay sayop mana hahaha

kani o ALL FROM WIKIPEDIA
EDITED: study this also from wiki if it is true or not wahahahah

The use of hypnosis and suggestive questions makes the subject particularly likely to hold distorted or false memories.[3] The source of the memories is more likely cryptomnesia and confabulations that combine past experiences, knowledge, imagination and suggestion or guidance from the hypnotist than recall of a previous existence. Once created, the memories are indistinguishable from memories based on events that occurred during the subjects life.

Memories reported during past life regression have been investigated, and revealed historical inaccuracies that are easily explained through a basic knowledge of history, elements of popular culture or books that discuss historical events. Experiments with subjects undergoing past life regression indicate that a belief in reincarnation and suggestions by the hypnotist are the two most important factors regarding the contents of memories reported.

he sources of the memories explained as a result of past lives are most likely narratives created by the subconscious mind using imagination, forgotten information and suggestions from the therapist,

Memories created under hypnosis are indistinguishable from actual memories and can be more vivid than factual memories

The sources of the memories explained as a result of past lives are most likely narratives created by the subconscious mind using imagination, forgotten information and suggestions from the therapist,[1][2][3][10][11][12][13] using a process called cryptomnesia. Memories created under hypnosis are indistinguishable from actual memories and can be more vivid than factual memories.[2] The greatest predictor of individuals reporting memories of past lives appears to be their beliefs about the existence in reincarnation - individuals who believe in reincarnation are more likely to report such memories, while skeptics or disbelievers are less so.[1][14]
Examinations of three cases of apparent past life regression (Bridey Murphy, Jane Evans and an unnamed English woman) revealed memories that were superficially convincing. However, investigation by experts in the languages used and historical periods described revealed flaws in all three paitents' recall. The evidence included speech patterns that was "...used by movie makers and weriters to convey the flavour of 16th century English speech" rather than actual old English, a date that was inaccurate but was the same as a recognized printing error in historical pamphlets, and a subject that reported historical accurate information from the Roman era that was idential to information found in a 1947 novel set in the same time with a character named Livonia, the same name as a character found in the book. Other details cited are common knowledge and not evidence of the factual nature of the memories; subjects asked to provide historical information that would allow checking provided only vague responses that did not allow for verification, and sometimes were unable to provide critical details that would have been common knowledge (i.e. a subject who was unable to provide the name of the Emperor of Japan during the 1940s despite describing a life of a Japanese fighter pilot during World War II)

A 1976 study found that 40% of hypnotizable subjects described new identities and used different names when given a suggestion to regress past their birth.[15] In the 1990s a series of experiments undertaken by Nicholas Spanos examined the nature of past life memories. Descriptions of alleged past lives were found to be extremely elaborate, with vivid, detailed descriptions. Subjects who reported memories of past lives exhibited high hypnotizability, and patients demonstrated that it was the expectations conveyed by the experimenter that were that was most important in determining the characteristics reported by the patients during their 'memories'. The degree to which the memories were considered credible by the experimental subjects was correlated most significantly to the subjects' beliefs about reincarnation and their expectation to remember a past life rather than hypnotizability. Spanos' research leads him to the conclusion that past lives are not memories, but actually social constructions based on patients acting "as if" they were someone else, but with significant flaws that would not be expected of actual memories. To create these memories, Spanos' subjects drew upon the expectations established by authority figures and information outside of the experiment such as television, novels, life experiences and their own desires.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression

unsa may imong reaction ani?
basaha tanan ha

EDITED:
i hope kasabot naka?

dili tanan nga imong gihunahuna nga truth kay truth na siya

[jaed121907]

If GOD is love then how come there are hundreds and thousands who are born blind and disabled? where is the infinite justice and love of GOD that even the universe can't contain HIS LOVE? Doesn't make sense to me your argument and worse doesn't make sense to me your GOD if there was no INFINITE JUSTICE!

You know what? You're out of the blue. Your premise don't seem to make a philosophical sense.

[k.A.i]

@reg
are you now enlightened?

kung wa pa
basaha ni ay
https://www.istorya.net/forums/spirit...ml#post3868521

[k.A.i]

You know what? You're out of the blue. Your premise don't seem to make a philosophical sense. Not all needs to be perfect cause only Him is perfect, God. People who are born with this abnormalities are still God's plan, all is.

wahehe layua na sad nimo oi waheheh
page 2 pa man ni nga post wahehe

pero you have a point

@reg
https://www.istorya.net/forums/spirit...ml#post3868521

i hope you are now enlightened

EDITED:
sige ugma nalang (murag nakatulog naman ka sa pagbasa wahehe)
maayo untag enlightened naka inig mata nimo

sweet dreams

[regnauld]

You know what? You're out of the blue. Your premise don't seem to make a philosophical sense.

So, how do you make it sensible my friend> just to accommodate to your belief system?

[regnauld]

waheheeeehehhehe taasa sad anang mga gipangpost nimo oi nga wa gihapoy tarong nga explaination
and maong gibanned na kay sayop mana hahaha

kani o ALL FROM WIKIPEDIA
EDITED: study this also from wiki if it is true or not wahahahah

Past life regression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

unsa may imong reaction ani?
basaha tanan ha

EDITED:
i hope kasabot naka?

dili tanan nga imong gihunahuna nga truth kay truth na siya

I have read that already and I don't see anything that disproves reincarnation. It just proves that the subconscious is capable of remembering past events and memories despite of some skeptics. This is what happened to Dr. Stevenson who was a great skeptic at first but after documenting all the 3000 cases that were suggestive of reincarnation, he finally concluded that reincarnation was true. Although, the study and research of reincarnation belongs to the SPIRITUAL SCIENCE, not material science.