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  1. #91

    Quote Originally Posted by oalx View Post
    bro dli ta preha og pangutok, nihatag lang ko sa akong comento sa nahitabo...wa na ky labot ana. ikaw, kay man kahibaw kaha ka sa tanan nga nahitabo?...didto ka?
    mao gyud. dili ta parehog pangutok...LOLs

    and i don't have to be there to witness the actual shooting. all it takes is common sense and a little logic. unsa man diay pasabot anang nataktak sa trabaho ang gwardya ug nabilanggo? op kors ky sayop gyud to iyang gibuhat...gets?

    it was a wrong act legally, morally, occupationally, and psychologically. (i even want to entertain the idea that security guards should undergo psychological testing before they are allowed to carry guns)

    beh balihon nato ang pangutana, unsa man kno uroy nka sakto sa iyang gibuhat beh?

    yes, we have freedom to express here, but we also have freedom to argue.
    Last edited by giddyboy; 01-14-2009 at 02:38 PM.

  2. #92
    I disagree! It may be wrong legally (though it will still have to go thru due process since we do not have the complete facts yet) but not morally.

    You have no personal knowledge of the security guard's beliefs. People go to war to protect their honor, that's a fact in history. The guard's honor was at stake when he was overpowered during the fistfight.

    Beh, ikaw kuno beh, gamay kaayo kang tawo unya gikulata kag dakong tawo. Of course, wa jud kay mahimo kay gamay man ka unya naa kay pusil. Ano ang gagawin mo?

    And from what I have seen, there is no such thing as overkill when you have the momentum. Kahinumdom mo sa fast and the furious na gi-istorya ni vin diesel about the guy who was responsible for his father's accident? One blow of the wrench could have been enough. Yet, he striked the person a hundred more times because he cant control it. That's just human nature and you cant do anything about it.

    The moral of the story is: Knowing your enemy's capability is a key when you are in a battle. (from Sun Tzu). The driver should have thought of the gun first before picking up a fight, not just on the basis that he is bigger and can easily win over the midget guard. After all, kaning mga gagmay'ng tawo, mao baya'y delikado, specially kadtong naay mga inferiority complex (I'm not generalizing ha?).

  3. #93
    @ koykoy, nice one
    @ giddyboy, lisod kaayo pukawon ang tao nga la natulog...think about it

  4. #94
    supakero pud kayo ang driver, kay na abot gud sa point nga nag sumbagay sila. patu-o pud unta to sa guard, kay ga follow ra man pud na sila sa instruction.

    asa man ang uban guards aning panahona? ngano wala man naka tabang samtang pag padung pa lang sa sinumbagay??

  5. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by koykoy View Post
    I disagree! It may be wrong legally (though it will still have to go thru due process since we do not have the complete facts yet) but not morally.

    You have no personal knowledge of the security guard's beliefs. People go to war to protect their honor, that's a fact in history. The guard's honor was at stake when he was overpowered during the fistfight.

    Beh, ikaw kuno beh, gamay kaayo kang tawo unya gikulata kag dakong tawo. Of course, wa jud kay mahimo kay gamay man ka unya naa kay pusil. Ano ang gagawin mo?

    And from what I have seen, there is no such thing as overkill when you have the momentum. Kahinumdom mo sa fast and the furious na gi-istorya ni vin diesel about the guy who was responsible for his father's accident? One blow of the wrench could have been enough. Yet, he striked the person a hundred more times because he cant control it. That's just human nature and you cant do anything about it.

    The moral of the story is: Knowing your enemy's capability is a key when you are in a battle. (from Sun Tzu). The driver should have thought of the gun first before picking up a fight, not just on the basis that he is bigger and can easily win over the midget guard. After all, kaning mga gagmay'ng tawo, mao baya'y delikado, specially kadtong naay mga inferiority complex (I'm not generalizing ha?).
    KOREK!!!!!

  6. #96
    Kon ang pangutok sa mga cebuano pareha sa guard susss daghana kahang patay dire cebu, daghan pod kaayo pinireso puno ang presohan. Init kaayo ug ulo ning mga tawo labi na way kwarta. Ang driver nanginabuhe ang guard nanginabuhe. isig protektahay sa ilang katungod pero pildi jud ang guard kay murder man iyang giatubang nya ang driver ni rest in peace naman. Ang makalolouy ang mga pamilya intawn. Mas labing makalolouy ang pamilya sa guard kay ilang amahan murderer man. Mao na think first before you act kay wala juy pagbasol nga mag-una. Leksyon sa mga init ug ulo. Silang duha walay mapili pulos init ug ulo. Pastilan CRIMINAL CASE.. Against the LAW of GOD as well.

  7. #97
    daghan day gahig ulo sa cebu bro? hehe

  8. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by koykoy View Post
    I disagree! It may be wrong legally (though it will still have to go thru due process since we do not have the complete facts yet) but not morally.

    You have no personal knowledge of the security guard's beliefs. People go to war to protect their honor, that's a fact in history. The guard's honor was at stake when he was overpowered during the fistfight.

    Beh, ikaw kuno beh, gamay kaayo kang tawo unya gikulata kag dakong tawo. Of course, wa jud kay mahimo kay gamay man ka unya naa kay pusil. Ano ang gagawin mo?

    And from what I have seen, there is no such thing as overkill when you have the momentum. Kahinumdom mo sa fast and the furious na gi-istorya ni vin diesel about the guy who was responsible for his father's accident? One blow of the wrench could have been enough. Yet, he striked the person a hundred more times because he cant control it. That's just human nature and you cant do anything about it.

    The moral of the story is: Knowing your enemy's capability is a key when you are in a battle. (from Sun Tzu). The driver should have thought of the gun first before picking up a fight, not just on the basis that he is bigger and can easily win over the midget guard. After all, kaning mga gagmay'ng tawo, mao baya'y delikado, specially kadtong naay mga inferiority complex (I'm not generalizing ha?).
    let's do the math. 90% of Pinoys are Christians so op kors it is morally wrong TO KILL FOR PERSONAL GAIN, unless u r defending the safety and honor of your country, your religion, or your fellowmen. Most likely the guard is a Christian. But bsan pa ingnon nato nga Muslim cya, again what he did was morally wrong per their Quran...

    kung ang imong belief OK ra mokaon ug tawo, dili gihapon na mopasar under legal moral laws.

    Ang relihiyon ra cguro nga OK nila mopatay is Satanism or some other weird cults. What are the chances? besides, dawaton ba kha ka as sikyu in the first place kng ing ana imong relihiyon? LOLs

    and even so, this is not an issue of religious or personal beliefs...this is an issue of following the rule of law. balak-ag unsa pana ka binisaya imong tinuhoan dha, ang balaud walay relihiyon.

    take note the word "defending". asa man kno ang defending ato nga the guard even pumped 2 more bullets to finish him off. u call that defending? ahhh, "ego" perhaps...and what momentum r u talking about? the momentum to kill for revenge? LOLs

    ang usa pud nga pangutana, were they in the middle of a war? naa cla sa gubat undo? unya military cla nga ga pinatyanay that justifies u invoking Sun Tzu's Art of War? LOLs

    kung sakto ko nga gwardiya ug gmay pa gyud nga tawo, the more i depend on my gun to compensate for my handicap...so pag padung pa gani atake lng daan sa dako nga driver, imo na dayon gihulbot imong armas to defend urself. either u point it at him at a distance or fire a warning shot on the ground. heck, u can even shoot him in self defense. that way, not only u will avoid a fistfight and getting mauled, but also defended ur pride & honor as a security guard...that's how the Rules of Engagement should be done correctly.

    and if wa ka kahulbot sa gun nimo tungod sa kapaspas sa panghitabo ug naabtan gasukmagay na mo, the best thing to do is act on pulling out ur gun. then op kors the aggressor could run away or attack you more. But since nidagan man, all the guard has to do is fire a warning shot to stop him or if not shoot his legs to disable him and arrest the sonovabitch...then prisohon ug filan ug public disturbance, assaulting an officer, violating airport rules, or something like that. still, that would defend his pride & honor as a sikyu.

    but what he did was take the law into his own hands. and not only that, he was killing for revenge. ask urself the definition of murder para ka malamdagan. what he did, instead of defending his honor, he actually lost it. even his job and his freedom.

    And remember, an airport is a public place.

    as i earlier said before, wala koy gi paboran. both the driver and guard were stupid. yes, i know that somehow that situation has ANIMAL INSTINCTS involved (not human nature u mentioned). But how a human thinks and process information is the line separating us from the animals or a caveman.

    Your arguing this based on one's satisfaction of his animal instinct, that cannot in any way justify A CRIMINAL OFFENSE that consequentially puts a perpetrator for life imprisonment or even death penalty...

    think about it!!!
    Last edited by giddyboy; 01-14-2009 at 10:48 PM.

  9. #99
    always remember that Anger is one syllable from danger........................

    "if your patient in one moment of anger, you will escape a hundred days of sorrow" William Jennings
    Bryan

    Asa naman ni cya paingon for the rest of his life Jail .....the worst thing that could happen to a man is to be lockeddown in a cell, its a slow and painfull death....believe me you do not want o go to jail...........

  10. #100
    Lord knows unsa ila buhaton kung mabored na cla.................they'll make a pop tart out of your a''"

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