Gaza war

[goryo13]

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Were you able to watch the video link where a UN official said that Hamas observe the ceasefire agreement well?

Concerning the tunnel...Israel cant prove it,its an allegation based on suspicion. You dont fire shots and kill people based on suspicion.

and paranoia is not a good adviser if you want to arrived a wise decision.

part or not...you dont kill people based on suspicion.

but let me remind you what the a UN personnel said...That Hamas observed faithfully the ceasefire agreement.

considering how volatile the situation there, Hamas should have kept away from triggering Israel by digging a 'suspected' tunnel. y'know, you cannot undermined the intelligence network of this nation and going to war by mere suspicion would be stupid. there had to be something there for them to act like that. all i know is, these Hamas guys are bunch of extremist and if they can have it their way, they'd want Israel vanished so they can own the lands that they'd been claiming since ages to be theirs. daghan gyung magpatay tungods yuta.

[flanker]

and because of that CNN is not a good source for credible news? tsk tsk thats a lapse in logic.

you have to present an evidence proving that CNN is wrong and presented a bias report concerning Israel.

yup... remember the Russian-Georgian war last August?

If you are just following the issues you will realize how western media twisted the stories..


BTW..It doens't need an evidence bro.. common sense would do...

[Dorothea]

nice input sir.

but we must consider history and history will tell us that Israel is the aggressor.

Zionism is the problem. The hamas militant organization was formed with an agenda to free Palestine from Zionist control.

Israel's exodus back to middle east started this conflict.

Who is the rightful owner of the land? Mao na dinha ang pangutana ron. Remember, before it became Palestine, it was the land of the Jews hundreds of years before. Who has the right to control the land? Nganong dili man puede mag hating kapatid? Di ba gibahin naman na, one Jewish state and one Arab state. Why can't they live in harmony?

Mao nang wala'y resolution ani nga conflict. HAMAS will NOT compromise. To them, it's all or nothing. HAMAS will not back down, and you better believe the Jews will not back down either. So ang resulta, syempre mag gubat gyud. Sakto gyud kaayo, daghang nagpatay tungod sa yuta.

Hamas' objective is to regain control of the land. Matod pa nila, they will permit Jews to remain, but only under Palestinian rule. Israel of course, will never allow that to happen. They would rather die a thousand deaths before they let themselves be driven away again from their land.

So, klaro kaayo, unsaon man pag resolve ani nga conflict? The only probable outcome is total and complete annihilation.

[lestat1116]

Attack on Israel from Lebanon threatens 2nd front - Yahoo! News

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[diatabz]

The Israelis need to wisen up. They went after Hezbollah 2 years ago, and what happened? They just ended up embarrassing themselves. The campaign has to end if they want to win over Palestinian support against Hamas. I have the impression that bombing the crap out of their borders is equivalent to landscaping their front lawns. Oh, and don't get me started on Hamas. The bastards need a punch in the mouth. (Then again, so do the Israelis in power) Hamas needs to wake the hell up and realize wiping out Israel off the map won't work.

If true peace is to be attained, both sides should get over the circle of "He Started It". That whole argument is BS and configured to waging war. Both sides are like kids arguing over a shiny toy. Well I say it's about time somebody took the toy away. I am getting tired of this whole conflict, and as much as I'd hate to say it, eradicating the whole area might be the most expedient solution. It's sad that a country with so much spiritual importance is also one filled with so much hate.

However, there is hope if an external factor comes into play. If both Israel and Palestine are forced to end hostilities by the international community and most of all by their own people, then there might be an accord of some kind in the end. Countries must make it clear that both sides will be pressured if they don't negotiate. The Israelis want an end to the rocket attacks and the Palestinians want an end to the embargo. Simple but complex at the same time. You know, the Swiss and the Catholic Church could make themselves useful this time, something ala "Sum Of All Fears".

[Jerry Michael]

The Western tri media is predominantly owned by the ZIONIST Jews. There are thousands of Orthodox Jews in Israel & the US that are against the ZIONIST apartheid.

Top 5 Lies About Israel’s Assault on Gaza

Lie #1) Israel is only targeting legitimate military sites and is seeking to protect innocent lives. Israel never targets civilians.

The Gaza Strip is one of the most densely populated pieces of property in the world. The presence of militants within a civilian population does not, under international law, deprive that population of their protected status, and hence any assault upon that population under the guise of targeting militants is, in fact, a war crime.

Moreover, the people Israel claims are legitimate targets are members of Hamas, which Israel says is a terrorist organization. Hamas has been responsible for firing rockets into Israel. These rockets are extremely inaccurate and thus, even if Hamas intended to hit military targets within Israel, are indiscriminate by nature. When rockets from Gaza kill Israeli civilians, it is a war crime.

Hamas has a military wing. However, it is not entirely a military organization, but a political one. Members of Hamas are the democratically elected representatives of the Palestinian people. Dozens of these elected leaders have been kidnapped and held in Israeli prisons without charge. Others have been targeted for assassination, such as Nizar Rayan, a top Hamas official. To kill Rayan, Israel targeted a residential apartment building. The strike not only killed Rayan but two of his wives and four of his children, along with six others. There is no justification for such an attack under international law. This was a war crime.

Other of Israel’s bombardment with protected status under international law have included a mosque, a prison, police stations, and a university, in addition to residential buildings.

Moreover, Israel has long held Gaza under siege, allowing only the most minimal amounts of humanitarian supplies to enter. Israel is bombing and killing Palestinian civilians. Countless more have been wounded, and cannot receive medical attention. Hospitals running on generators have little or no fuel. Doctors have no proper equipment or medical supplies to treat the injured. These people, too, are the victims of Israeli policies targeted not at Hamas or legitimate military targets, but directly designed to punish the civilian population.

Lie #2) Hamas violated the cease-fire. The Israeli bombardment is a response to Palestinian rocket fire and is designed to end such rocket attacks.

Israel never observed the cease-fire to begin with. From the beginning, it announced a “special security zone” within the Gaza Strip and announced that Palestinians who enter this zone will be fired upon. In other words, Israel announced its intention that Israeli soldiers would shoot at farmers and other individuals attempting to reach their own land in direct violation of not only the cease-fire but international law.

Despite shooting incidents, including ones resulting in Palestinians getting injured, Hamas still held to the cease-fire from the time it went into effect on June 19 until Israel effectively ended the truce on November 4 by launching an airstrike into Gaza that killed five and injured several others.

Israel’s violation of the cease-fire predictably resulted in retaliation from militants in Gaza who fired rockets into Israel in response. The increased barrage of rocket fire at the end of December is being used as justification for the continued Israeli bombardment, but is a direct response by militants to the Israeli attacks.

Israel’s actions, including its violation of the cease-fire, predictably resulted in an escalation of rocket attacks against its own population.

Lie #3) Hamas is using human shields, a war crime.

There has been no evidence that Hamas has used human shields. The fact is, as previously noted, Gaza is a small piece of property that is densely populated. Israel engages in indiscriminate warfare such as the assassination of Nizar Rayan, in which members of his family were also murdered. It is victims like his dead children that Israel defines as “human shields” in its propaganda. There is no legitimacy for this interpretation under international law. In circumstances such as these, Hamas is not using human shields, Israel is committing war crimes in violation of the Geneva Conventions and other applicable international law.

Lie #4) Arab nations have not condemned Israel’s actions because they understand Israel’s justification for its assault.

The populations of those Arab countries are outraged at Israel’s actions and at their own governments for not condemning Israel’s assault and acting to end the violence. Simply stated, the Arab governments do not represent their respective Arab populations. The populations of the Arab nations have staged mass protests in opposition to not only Israel’s actions but also the inaction of their own governments and what they view as either complacency or complicity in Israel’s crimes.

Moreover, the refusal of Arab nations to take action to come to the aid of the Palestinians is not because they agree with Israel’s actions, but because they are submissive to the will of the US, which fully supports Israel. Egypt, for instance, which refused to open the border to allow Palestinians wounded in the attacks to get medical treatment in Egyptian hospitals, is heavily dependent upon US aid, and is being widely criticized within the population of the Arab countries for what is viewed as an absolute betrayal of the Gaza Palestinians.

Even Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has been regarded as a traitor to his own people for blaming Hamas for the suffering of the people of Gaza. Palestinians are also well aware of Abbas’ past perceived betrayals in conniving with Israel and the US to sideline the democratically elected Hamas government, culminating in a counter-coup by Hamas in which it expelled Fatah (the military wing of Abbas’ Palestine Authority) from the Gaza Strip. While his apparent goal was to weaken Hamas and strengthen his own position, the Palestinians and other Arabs in the Middle East are so outraged at Abbas that it is unlikely he will be able to govern effectively.

Lie #5) Israel is not responsible for civilian deaths because it warned the Palestinians of Gaza to flee areas that might be targeted.

Israel claims it sent radio and telephone text messages to residents of Gaza warning them to flee from the coming bombardment. But the people of Gaza have nowhere to flee to. They are trapped within the Gaza Strip. It is by Israeli design that they cannot escape across the border. It is by Israeli design that they have no food, water, or fuel by which to survive. It is by Israeli design that hospitals in Gaza have no electricity and few medical supplies with which to treat the injured and save lives. And Israel has bombed vast areas of Gaza, targeting civilian infrastructure and other sites with protected status under international law. No place is safe within the Gaza Strip.

[YellowSubmarine]

If thats the case Israel should not bombed them. There are ways to avoid civilian casualties and still engaged in war.

Yeah.. like what?


There's no way to avoid civilian casualties if the civilians stay there..

blame Hamas for firing rockets

[Malic]

It's another story na siya.

Mao siguro aggressive kaayo ang Israel it's because ang Hamas is supported by Syria and Iran. Take note Iran or probably Syria is a nuclear country.

I think dili man pud na siguro ang Israel i-blame. How about ang Egypt? Egypt also closed their borders on the Palestinian side.

no it s not. Its the same old agenda. Israel wants to stretch their territory. Egypt by the influenced of Israel closed their borders.

You think that america is not a nuclear country?

these countries have to arm themselves or else Israel and US will eat them and exploit them.

[Malic]

yup... remember the Russian-Georgian war last August?

If you are just following the issues you will realize how western media twisted the stories..


BTW..It doens't need an evidence bro.. common sense would do...

As ive said, just because they twisted something would already mean that they are no longer credible.

I bet once in your life you twisted something correct? but it doesnt mean that you are no longer credible and it doesnt mean that everything that comes out from your mouth are lies,right?

oh it deosnt need evidence...by the way real common sense demands an evidence.

[YellowSubmarine]

no it s not. Its the same old agenda. Israel wants to stretch their territory. Egypt by the influenced of Israel closed their borders.

since 1948 when the State of Israel was formed Israel was on the defensive.. they only expanded when the Arabs were defeated.. If the Arabs didn't attack them first then they wouldn't have expanded their territory..