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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    YES, but not to the point of giving up you faith or having sinned of the Holy ghost... well its just my idea since its in the bible, it could be...
    this is rather a simple yet precise answer. God continues to bless us even when we sin, BUT in the event that we CHOOSE NOT TO LIVE THE GOSPEL, of course, He would not force us (and we will definitely be out of salvation). a very good answer sir. it gets things clearer.

    cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    this is rather a simple yet precise answer. God continues to bless us even when we sin, BUT in the event that we CHOOSE NOT TO LIVE THE GOSPEL, of course, He would not force us (and we will definitely be out of salvation). a very good answer sir. it gets things clearer.

    cheers.
    even if you have sinned beyond forgiveness?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    so naa lagi japon tao na holy ana man gud ka wala...

    in addition i believe each one of us is holy... walay unholy nato dre for the unholy ones are the ones whom were exiled by God...

    do you believe that each one of us is holy?..
    I dont believe that each one of us is holy,.because we are subject to commit sin,..bisan ingnon pa nimu nga wala nakasala ka,..wala jud ka nakasala in the eyes of your men,..but we are just rag in His eyes,but because He loves us,He gave us sanctifying grace but not holiness,...

    Holiness is free from sin,...but the bible said that any man who claim to be rightoeus or haven't commit sinned is fool,..kalimut lang ko unsa nga verse bro,...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshinsasuke View Post
    I dont believe that each one of us is holy,.because we are subject to commit sin,..bisan ingnon pa nimu nga wala nakasala ka,..wala jud ka nakasala in the eyes of your men,..but we are just rag in His eyes,but because He loves us,He gave us sanctifying grace but not holiness,...

    Holiness is free from sin,...but the bible said that any man who claim to be rightoeus or haven't commit sinned is fool,..kalimut lang ko unsa nga verse bro,...
    well thats what the bible said we are the temple of the Holy Ghost...

    saints are sinners too you know..

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    let's just say that human life is sacred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    even if you have sinned beyond forgiveness?...
    God can forgive anything, as long as you repent and ask for forgiveness. and oh, by the way, we can lose holiness, by committing unholy acts. that's why the bible keeps on telling us to "be holy".

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    OT: "God forgives. I don't." -William Munny (The Unforgiven)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    God can forgive anything, as long as you repent and ask for forgiveness. and oh, by the way, we can lose holiness, by committing unholy acts. that's why the bible keeps on telling us to "be holy".
    to sum it all still there are sins that cannot be forgiven.. am i right?..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    to sum it all still there are sins that cannot be forgiven.. am i right?..
    i never said/implied that. anything can be forgiven, as long as there is a will to repent, and there is a choice to ask for forgiveness. (holiness, at a certain moment, can be lost/regained)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    i never said/implied that. anything can be forgiven, as long as there is a will to repent, and there is a choice to ask for forgiveness. (holiness, at a certain moment, can be lost/regained)
    well anyways ill just give some verse kaw na bahala.. you have your own understanding man sad i cant force you to believe in me..

    Matthew 12:32 "And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come....."

    mina uyasuminasai!!...

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