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    interesting question.

    why don't we ask God? or better yet, let's ask his supposedly "Sons" here on earth. maybe they can answer this question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelfyre View Post
    evil is there for us to know the good
    Absolutely! That's a profound answer! Does that contradict God when he created EVIL? NO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    @regnauld,

    bisan pag nonesense para nimo ang among tubag, wala gihapon ka naka prove namo nga gikan sa Ginoo ang tanang evil. likay likay man gani ka sa akong mga pangutana. ikaw kung mangutana ka nako mutubag ko dayon sa punto nga imong gipangita. mao nay nakalahi nato.

    tubaga akong pangutana bro ayaw i ignore,

    Jer 7:31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.

    kaning gibuhat sa mga tawo sa una nga ilang gisunog ang ilang mga anak, nisulod ba to sa huna huna sa Ginoo ang ilang gibuhat or wala?

    Ok let us be clear again. God created Evil klaro na sa Isaiah di ba? So, it comes from GOD pero and Ginoo dili responsable sa sala sa tawo kay ang tawo gitagaan man siya ug freedom to choose what is GOOD and what is EVIL. God Created EVIL for us to know what is GOOD. Ang sala nga gibuhat sa tawo dili manghilabot and Ginoo. Why EVIL is part of God's creation? According to St. Augustine, EVIL has the potential for GOODNESS! Negative Energy can be transformed into Positive energy. Darkness can be transformed into Light. That's why GOOD and EVIL comes from GOD because God created it (LAW OF DUALITY or OPPOSITES ) in the first place. It is up to man to choose between the two. And these choices are subject to THE UNIVERSAL LAW OF CAUSE AND EFFECT or KARMA! GOD does not punish nor reward us. We punish and reward ourselves by the consequences of our actions. I hope that's clear to you. Peace
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    Quote Originally Posted by manin**** View Post
    @tobi:

    bro, disclaimer sa ko, im with you that God did not create evil but for the sake of this discussion and to be fair pud kang reg, let me point this out.

    Nag rebelde si lucifer tungod sa iyang pride diba? Dili ba daotan ang pride? In fact pride is one strong foundation of evil. Daghan sala nga ang tinubdan kay pride. Sa ato pa naa na diay daotan sa langit atong panahona kay naa na mn ang pride ni luci ato. i think mao mao ra ani ang punto ni reg ngano mo ingon cya nga ni exist ang evil sa langit.


    @reg:

    naa p unta ko tubag nimo bro pro kapoy na ako utok. tulog sa ko.


    maaung gabii ninyong tanan. peace!
    Thank you bro! Peace! Precisely bro that's my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silent-kill View Post
    regnauld,

    i have the same topic before, and somehow i found my answer hehehe...
    lets just say that god is beyond the concept of man on what is 'good' and what is 'evil'
    god may kill millions, of people, and for us it is evil, but for him it is not. after all he is god



    if we are in his aquarium, what can you do about it? ehehehe
    either you accept it that you are under his mercy and grace.
    or you totally nullify his existence and live your life the way you want to without fear
    the choice is ours my friend , but with regards to the choice we might make let us consider the other 'fishes' rights living inside the 'aquarium' eheheh
    I love your answer! Peace

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    There is no Evil in Paradise.

    Satan sinned because he chose to defy God.

    Pride is Good but if applied in the wrong way it becomes evil.

    Yes heaven is perfect and lucifer was perfect but his freewill lead him to chose to defy God.

    Freewill is freewill it is not evil nor good. It is the ability to choose what we like and want.

    God will not forced us to follow him thats why freewill is there.

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    ang translation nga gihatag ni bro regnauld usa ra. anhi daw ta sa mga laing translations...

    Isa 45:7

    I create both light and darkness; I bring both blessing and disaster. I, the LORD, do all these things.

    I make light and create darkness. I make blessings and create disasters. I, the LORD, do all these things.

    I am the giver of light and the maker of the dark; causing blessing, and sending troubles; I am the Lord, who does all these things.


    ayaw ug stick ra sa usa ka translation bro regnauld...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    There is no Evil in Paradise.

    Satan sinned because he chose to defy God.

    Pride is Good but if applied in the wrong way it becomes evil.

    Yes heaven is perfect and lucifer was perfect but his freewill lead him to chose to defy God.

    Freewill is freewill it is not evil nor good. It is the ability to choose what we like and want.

    God will not forced us to follow him thats why freewill is there.
    Satan sinned because he chose to defy God ? or was it The Angel sinned? Are angels capable of sinning? What is the true nature of angels by the way? Let's talk about Angels and Demons. (you might want to read Dan Brown's Novel)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    OT: im free! hehehehehe! kani lang akong gamiton oi mura gi sabotahe akong Tobi dah...

    oi regnauld, ad hominem raman lagi ka kutob bro...hehehehe!
    ADD hominem? klaroha kuno ang spelleing bro! Let's relax sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Satan sinned because he chose to defy God ? or was it The Angel sinned? Are angels capable of sinning? What is the true nature of angels by the way? Let's talk about Angels and Demons. (you might want to read Dan Brown's Novel)
    kung naa gani freewill, naa juy possibility nga makasala.

    2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

    kinsa kahay atong tuuhan noh? si Dan Brown ug si regnauld, or si St. Peter?

    hmmmm...

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