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  1. #131

    on the topic of angels and free will, i dont believe that they have free will, bec they're supposed to be merely extensions of God's will. lucifer's act wasnt free will but ego and defiance.

  2. #132
    How do u make synthesis for these Evil, Reincarnation, Hell, Karma, God which are the substances of your thread? How do we make it uptto Science as you said, to Phillosphy and Religion? I find the impossiblity of the task you set.

  3. #133
    Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

    Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

  4. #134
    sir can you make this clear to me? I only have a simple mind. sorry. hehe

  5. #135
    sa akong nasabtan pud sa verse bro kay nidako man ang ulo ni Lucifer. gusto siyang mutupong sa Ginoo.

    sorry I also have a simple mind. hehehe!

  6. #136
    @tobi:

    bro, disclaimer sa ko, im with you that God did not create evil but for the sake of this discussion and to be fair pud kang reg, let me point this out.

    Nag rebelde si lucifer tungod sa iyang pride diba? Dili ba daotan ang pride? In fact pride is one strong foundation of evil. Daghan sala nga ang tinubdan kay pride. Sa ato pa naa na diay daotan sa langit atong panahona kay naa na mn ang pride ni luci ato. i think mao mao ra ani ang punto ni reg ngano mo ingon cya nga ni exist ang evil sa langit.


    @reg:

    naa p unta ko tubag nimo bro pro kapoy na ako utok. tulog sa ko.


    maaung gabii ninyong tanan. peace!

  7. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    God did not create evil. Evil existed because of the presence of freewill. kung wala pa untay freewill, walay dautan.

    but God, gives u freewill.

  8. #138
    god created everything right!?

    good and evil falls under the same bracket...god.

  9. #139
    just my points of views

    Isaiah 45:7 - I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.

    well evil there stands for afflictions/chaos/punishment in contrary with peace but not evil of sin...
    God is pure good why would he make evil if all he want for us is to be with him.. contradicting na au sa iya pagka God..

    hmmmmmmmmmmm

  10. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    just my points of views

    Isaiah 45:7 - I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.

    well evil there stands for afflictions/chaos/punishment in contrary with peace but not evil of sin...
    God is pure good why would he make evil if all he want for us is to be with him.. contradicting na au sa iya pagka God..

    hmmmmmmmmmmm
    sakto !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    tanawa pod ninyo lain nga version oi... di lang kana nga version...

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