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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    if hell really exist, dili lang kay mubisita ka didto bro, mao jud toy imong puy anan.

    giunsa man pud nimo pagkahibaw nga ang Ginoo tua didto?
    kung mao na akong puy anan magkita kita lang sad ta ngadto kay kabalo ko silingan ra ta didto

    di ba GOD is OMNIPRESENT or GOD is everywhere? unya niingon man ka nga HEll is a place. So, GOD is present at all places including HELL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    kung mao na akong puy anan magkita kita lang sad ta ngadto kay kabalo ko silingan ra ta didto

    di ba GOD is OMNIPRESENT or GOD is everywhere? unya niingon man ka nga HEll is a place. So, GOD is present at all places including HELL.
    dili man OMNIPRESENT ang Ginoo bro. He is not everywhere maong wala siya sa hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    dili man OMNIPRESENT ang Ginoo bro. He is not everywhere maong wala siya sa hell.
    Dili OMNIPRESENT ang Ginoo? dili siya PRESENT at at all times? dili na diay siya GINOO kung mao na.

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    i think dili ni literal na lake jud na naay fire. just like satan. some say na hadlok kau nawong with sungay and buntot, hey satan is one of the most handsome angel na created ni God. he used to be one of God's baya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Dili OMNIPRESENT ang Ginoo? dili siya PRESENT at at all times? dili na diay siya GINOO kung mao na.
    O bro dili Omnipresent ang Ginoo. naa siyay lugar nga gipili kung asa siya. naay delikadesa ang Ginoo bro dili pareho nimo nga bisan asa pwede.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SERENAvsBLAIRE View Post
    i think dili ni literal na lake jud na naay fire. just like satan. some say na hadlok kau nawong with sungay and buntot, hey satan is one of the most handsome angel na created ni God. he used to be one of God's baya.
    cge bro grantin dili na siya literal nga lake of fire, unsa man diay na siya bro? giunsa man pud nimo pagkahibaw nga dili na siya literal?

    pwede bro magpakita pud ka sa imong reliable sources?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    O bro dili Omnipresent ang Ginoo. naa siyay lugar nga gipili kung asa siya. naay delikadesa ang Ginoo bro dili pareho nimo nga bisan asa pwede.
    Limited edition diay ang Ginoo nimo kung dili siya present at all times kung mao na. Imo nang Ginoo bro dili na ako. for me GOD IS OMNIPRESENT. GOD IS EVERYWHERE. Your GOD is not present and that is not GOD anymore.

    "Omnipresence" is the property of being present everywhere. According to eastern theism, God is present everywhere. Divine omnipresence is thus one of the divine attributes, although in western theism it has attracted less philosophical attention than such attributes as as omnipotence, omniscience, or being eternal.

    Judeo-Christian beliefs constitute a third opinion on omnipresence. To both the Jewish and Christian religions, God is omnipresent. However, the major difference between these monothesitic religions and other religious systems is that God is still transcendant to His creation and yet immanent in relating to creation. God is not immersed in the substance of creation, even though he is able to interact with it as he chooses. He cannot be excluded from any location or object in creation (Thomas C Oden "The Living God: Systematic Theology Vol 1 pg 67). God's presence is continuous throughout all of creation, though it may not be revealed in the same way at the same time to people everywhere. At times, he may be actively present in a situation, while he may not reveal that he is present in another circumstance in some other area. The Bible reveals that God can be both present to a person in a manifest manner (Psalm 46:1, Isaiah 57:15) as well as being present in every situation in all of creation at any given time (Psalm 33:13-14). Specifically, Oden states (pg. 68-69) that the Bible shows that God can be present in every aspect of human life:

    • God is naturally present in every aspect of the natural order, in every level of causality, every fleeting moment and momentous event of natural history...(Psalm 8:3, Isaiah 40:12, Nahum 1:3)
    • God is actively present in a different way in every event in history as provident guide of human affairs (Psalm 48:7)
    • God is in a special way attentively present to those who call upon his name, intercede for others, who adore God, who petition, who pray earnestly for forgiveness (Gospel of Matthew 18:19, Book of Acts 17:27)
    • God is judicially present in moral awareness, through conscience (Psalm 48:1-2, Epistle to the Romans 1:20)
    • God is bodily present in the incarnation of his Son, Jesus Christ (Gospel of John 1:14, Colossians 2:9)
    • God is mystically present in the Eucharist, and through the means of grace in the church, the body of Christ (Ephesians 2:12, John 6:56)
    • God is sacredly present and becomes known in special places where God chooses to meet us, places that become set apart by the faithful remembering community (1 Corinthians 11:23-29) where it may be said: "Truly the Lord is in this place" (Genesis 28:16, Matthew 18:20)"

    In the Judeo-Christian religions, God is omnipresent in a way that He is able to interact with his creation however he chooses, and is not the very essence of his creation.

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    cge lang mga bro if mamatay nako i update lang nya tamo tanan if naa ba jud har har har

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Limited edition diay ang Ginoo nimo kung dili siya present at all times kung mao na. Imo nang Ginoo bro dili na ako. for me GOD IS OMNIPRESENT. GOD IS EVERYWHERE. Your GOD is not present and that is not GOD anymore.

    "Omnipresence" is the property of being present everywhere. According to eastern theism, God is present everywhere. Divine omnipresence is thus one of the divine attributes, although in western theism it has attracted less philosophical attention than such attributes as as omnipotence, omniscience, or being eternal.

    Judeo-Christian beliefs constitute a third opinion on omnipresence. To both the Jewish and Christian religions, God is omnipresent. However, the major difference between these monothesitic religions and other religious systems is that God is still transcendant to His creation and yet immanent in relating to creation. God is not immersed in the substance of creation, even though he is able to interact with it as he chooses. He cannot be excluded from any location or object in creation (Thomas C Oden "The Living God: Systematic Theology Vol 1 pg 67). God's presence is continuous throughout all of creation, though it may not be revealed in the same way at the same time to people everywhere. At times, he may be actively present in a situation, while he may not reveal that he is present in another circumstance in some other area. The Bible reveals that God can be both present to a person in a manifest manner (Psalm 46:1, Isaiah 57:15) as well as being present in every situation in all of creation at any given time (Psalm 33:13-14). Specifically, Oden states (pg. 68-69) that the Bible shows that God can be present in every aspect of human life:

    • God is naturally present in every aspect of the natural order, in every level of causality, every fleeting moment and momentous event of natural history...(Psalm 8:3, Isaiah 40:12, Nahum 1:3)
    • God is actively present in a different way in every event in history as provident guide of human affairs (Psalm 48:7)
    • God is in a special way attentively present to those who call upon his name, intercede for others, who adore God, who petition, who pray earnestly for forgiveness (Gospel of Matthew 18:19, Book of Acts 17:27)
    • God is judicially present in moral awareness, through conscience (Psalm 48:1-2, Epistle to the Romans 1:20)
    • God is bodily present in the incarnation of his Son, Jesus Christ (Gospel of John 1:14, Colossians 2:9)
    • God is mystically present in the Eucharist, and through the means of grace in the church, the body of Christ (Ephesians 2:12, John 6:56)
    • God is sacredly present and becomes known in special places where God chooses to meet us, places that become set apart by the faithful remembering community (1 Corinthians 11:23-29) where it may be said: "Truly the Lord is in this place" (Genesis 28:16, Matthew 18:20)"

    In the Judeo-Christian religions, God is omnipresent in a way that He is able to interact with his creation however he chooses, and is not the very essence of his creation.
    sa imong gipanghata nga mga verses, wala man koy nabasahan bro nga omnipresent ang Ginoo. self-interpretation naman lamang na bro...

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    Psalm 146:4 says: "His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish." --by this verse, it already shows na spirit cant og nowhere. but back to ground. dili padung sa hell or heaven. "Dust you are and to dust you will return." (Genesis 3:19). The condition of the dead is made clear at Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10, where we read: "The dead know nothing . . . In the grave, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom." Since the dead have no conscious existence, hell cannot be a fiery place of torment where the wicked suffer after death. "Neither was Jesus forsaken in Hades (which mean hell sa King James Version) nor did his flesh see corruption."* (Acts 2:31) so di ba Jesus was buried? So Jesus was in hell, the grave and another thing katong c Job hapit na mamatay, ana sya "Who will grant me this, that thou mayest protect me in hell (Sheol ang tawag on another language), and hide me till thy wrath pass?" (Job 14:13) so for Job hell was simply th grave where his sufferings would end. common grave of mankind wer good and bad ppol go. this fiery thing i think nakuha ni nila katong c Jesus naa pa sa earth there is this valley of Hinnom, outside Jerusalem na tapunan sa mga dead bodies of criminals and other kind of filth sauna referred to sa bible as FIERY GEHENNA (means hell fire saking james version), it was mentioned 12th times sa bible. The lake of fire has a meaning similar to that of "the fiery Gehenna" that Jesus spoke of. (Matthew 5:22; Mark 9:47, 4

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