Second Look on Islam

[Malic]

"Holy War" = jihad

Unsa'y naka Holy sa War?
Is killing Holy?

I don't really get it sir malic..
How could such religion promotes killing. Same with RC.

Hahay.

"You may think I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.."
-John Lennon

you are indeed a dreamer NASYO. You need to wake up,hehe and stop imagining.


Holy war = Jihad? screeeeeeech wrong!

The arabic word for Holy war is not jihad. Jihad means "to struggle" or "to fight".

The word holy war was formulated by the Crusaders. I think they are the right people to whom your question must be addressed to.

Wake up and stop imagining so you can get it.


I like how tokidoki thinks and Hellblazer too.

[NASYO]

you are indeed a dreamer NASYO. You need to wake up,hehe and stop imagining.


Holy war = Jihad? screeeeeeech wrong!

The arabic word for Holy war is not jihad. Jihad means "to struggle" or "to fight".

The word holy war was formulated by the Crusaders. I think they are the right people to whom your question must be addressed to.

Wake up and stop imagining so you can get it.


I like how tokidoki thinks and Hellblazer too.

OK, jihad = struggle or fight = armed struggle = kill? = kill, kill, kill?

jihad VS "Imagine" of John Lennon

which one would you prefer?

are you a peace loving person? or an ego-centered jihad guy?

is struggle = revolution?



I love to imagine sir.. I can do everything through imagination..
I can prepare everything to be done just by imagining what to do..

remember this, "What your mind can conceive, your body can achieve.."
product slogan by "Pharmaton"


Put down all your weapons, pump up the volume, listen to "Imagine" of John Lennon

[munzter666]

peace loving dude!?

"Let those who desire peace prepare for war!" - Vegetius, Roman Military Strategist, 400 AD

hahaha

[tokidoki_v2.1]

@NASYO: you need to watch that movie "Invasion" starring Nicole Kidman. While you pleasure yourself watching her in the movie you should take note of the line of the Russian guy in the party.

"The day we stop seeing wars and killings is the day we stop being human."

So you think of that line while you listen to "imagine".

[Kishin888]

https://www.istorya.net/forums/politi...-year-old.html

[NASYO]

i wonder how they would react to a female pope.

there was a female pope.

[NASYO]

pero legend ra

Pope Joan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[regnauld]

What i love about ISLAM is the mystical side of their religion which is SUFISM. I know there a are lots of muslim fanatics (no offense) but there are also mystics in islam. So, what is SUFISM by the way?

Sufi (Arabic: تصوّف‎ - taṣawwuf, Persian: صوفی*گری sufigari, Turkish: tasavvuf, Urdu: تصوف) is generally understood to be the inner, mystical dimension of Islam.[1][2][3] A practitioner of this tradition is generally known as a ṣūfī (صُوفِيّ), though some adherents of the tradition reserve this term only for those practitioners who have attained the goals of the Sufi tradition. Another name used for the Sufi seeker is dervish.
Classical Sufi scholars have defined Sufism as "a science whose objective is the reparation of the heart and turning it away from all else but God."[4] Alternatively, in the words of the renowned Darqawi Sufi teacher Ahmad ibn Ajiba, "a science through which one can know how to travel into the presence of the Divine, purify one’s inner self from filth, and beautify it with a variety of praiseworthy traits."[5]
The Sufi movement has spanned several continents and cultures over a millennium, at first expressed through Arabic, then through Persian, Turkish, and a dozen other languages.[6] Sufi orders, most of which are Sunni in doctrine, trace their origins from the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad, through his cousin Ali or his father-in-law Abu Bakr.
According to some modern proponents, such as Idries Shah, the Sufi philosophy is universal in nature, its roots predating the arising of Islam and the other modern-day religions; likewise, some Muslims feel that Sufism is outside the sphere of Islam.[7][8][1]

[rigormortis]

pasensya jud kaau sa mga muslim dri ha
sa akng mga nakita sa balita galagut gyud ko aning mga muslim(fanatics)
pasensya na gyud ha
labi na kaning mga terorista

[maniniyot]

OK, jihad = struggle or fight = armed struggle = kill? = kill, kill, kill?

I have to disagree here bro. First of, Im not Muslim.

Ive known this from a documentary sa Nat Geo about Mohammad. Jihad daw in its real meaning means "struggle" as Malic pointed out. Its more of a struggle with one's self. More like pag antos... para ma santos. Just like for Christians there are mga pag antos ug sakripisyo sa pag paningkamot sa pag bag-o, sa pag dili na pagpakasala ug para mahimong limpyo sa mata sa Ginoo. Ingana ang tinuod nga context sa jihad bro.

But katong time nga ni balik si Mohammad uban iya mga followers sa Mecca to "reclaim" it, he waged war using jihad in a different context. You see during the time of Mohammad ang Mecca ato kay murag center of religious activities of all sorts of pagan religions nga nag mix and match na gani with early Christianity. Dayon just like today gi sakyan og negosyo ug politics. Na desecrate ang lugar. Mohammad wanted to cleanse Mecca and establish Islam there so nibalik cya and waged war. BTW, wanted dead or alive na si Mohammad ato nga time sa Mecca since gaka wad.an nag negosyo ang mga negosyante ug politko tungod sa teachings niya. So his only way was war. In that war, he used jihad in a slightly different context, another form of self struggle - to fight for Islam.

But since then, gigmait dayon cya sa mga extremists to justify their political intentions. They would say they are fighting for Islam when in fact their just feeding their selfish causes. Diha nag sugod ug ka hugaw sa term nga jihad.

Sakto ba Malic?