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  1. #71

    Quote Originally Posted by pinoyapache View Post
    Kinsa diay gasulti nga God ang Pope? The Pope is the living representative of Christ here on earth.

    They insist na ang Pope is God gyud...unsa may mabuhat nato....

    si billy Graham God sad D i!

    Si iglesia ni Manalo sad....si Ely sad....si kinsa pana.....daghan kaayo na sila....God

  2. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by maddox22 View Post
    By that do you mean makita sa Bible ang link of papacy from Peter to the Catholic church? Di ba ang Roman Empire sad ang nag persecute sa mga early Christians? Then eventually gi-embrace sa Rome ang Christianity (w/c I believe was for political reasons). So there should be a trace of lineage from Peter to your popes diba?

    So do you mean makita na nato sa Bible kana nga lineage? Imo man kunuhay gud nang gi-quote quote ako gisuwat.
    plain view rule....dont divert..........

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikage View Post
    plain view rule....dont divert..........
    No diversion there. This still points out if the Catholic pope really has the authority and right to represent God.

    It's plain and simple. The Catholic church claims Peter to be the first pope. INC can claim Peter to be their founder (setting aside all modifications to their documents hehe). Or a new church can spring out and claim Peter to be their founder and use the same verse from the Bible where Peter is called the rock w/c the Catholics love to use. This new church can even provide documents to prove they have lineage from Peter. You see?

    So the Catholic church claiming Peter to be their 'first' pope is a joke! No offense, but kamo-kamo ra nituo ana. Kadali ra musulti ana ah. Pila ra'y pagsulti sa mga Romans sauna ana. Pila ra'y pagsulat nila ana?

    If nirespeto gyud ang Rome sa Christianity in the first place then dapat ang current leader sa mga early Christians sauna (w/c most likely is a Jew) mao unta ila gihimo nga pope! Ngano romano man gihapon ni head sa church? Politics ba or politics? Were they just scared that the Christians were getting stronger and Rome at that time was losing its power? Pa-waisay lang.

    So if you can't establish that your popes can trace their lineage of authority from Peter, then your pope right now does not hold or have any authority from God to represent him and deserve the title 'Holy Father'.

  4. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by pinoyapache View Post
    Kinsa diay gasulti nga God ang Pope? The Pope is the living representative of Christ here on earth.
    "The Pope is as it were God on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having plenitude of power, to whom has been intrusted by the omnipotent God direction not only of the earthly but also of the heavenly kingdom.
    Lucuius Ferraris, article entitled "The Pope," in Prompta Bibliotheca, vol. VII, pp. 25-29, passim


    "The supreme teacher in the church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, require, together with a perfect accord in one faith, complete submission and obedience of will to the church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself We [the popes] hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty."
    Encyclicals entitled 'On the Chief Duties of Christians as citizens.


    now perhaps u knew na?

  5. #75
    Mao ni problema ron bai kay si Pedro mismo ug ang ubang orig na apostoles di man gani ganahan ludhan samot ng tawgon Holy.

    Unya karon naa nay mapasigarbohon nga magpatawag ug Holy? Kalood.

  6. #76
    Mary was called Holy by the Angels.....FYI there are a lot of persons called Holy in the bible....it's clear and plain...no argument necessary...evidence is in ur face...if u read the Bible...

    Suya lang mo!

  7. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikage View Post
    Mary was called Holy by the Angels.....FYI there are a lot of persons called Holy in the bible....it's clear and plain...no argument necessary...evidence is in ur face...if u read the Bible...

    Suya lang mo!
    no... mary wasnt been called holy by the angels... blessed mn to... because she has Jesus in her... and Jesus is the holy one... not her...

  8. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by newtonscousin View Post
    "The Pope is as it were God on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having plenitude of power, to whom has been intrusted by the omnipotent God direction not only of the earthly but also of the heavenly kingdom.
    Lucuius Ferraris, article entitled "The Pope," in Prompta Bibliotheca, vol. VII, pp. 25-29, passim


    "The supreme teacher in the church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, require, together with a perfect accord in one faith, complete submission and obedience of will to the church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself We [the popes] hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty."
    Encyclicals entitled 'On the Chief Duties of Christians as citizens.


    now perhaps u knew na?

    Clear and Plain...God on earth............That's what makes us one....

    Upon this Rock, I will build my kingdom.....peter (first pope) was entrusted the keys of heaven....

    of Course, the protestants wont accept this meaning becz, if they do, then there would be no protestants...cz who will be their head....who will be their leader while Jesus's Parousia is not
    yet fulfilled?

  9. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by newtonscousin View Post
    "The Pope is as it were God on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having plenitude of power, to whom has been intrusted by the omnipotent God direction not only of the earthly but also of the heavenly kingdom.
    Lucuius Ferraris, article entitled "The Pope," in Prompta Bibliotheca, vol. VII, pp. 25-29, passim


    "The supreme teacher in the church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, require, together with a perfect accord in one faith, complete submission and obedience of will to the church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself We [the popes] hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty."
    Encyclicals entitled 'On the Chief Duties of Christians as citizens.


    now perhaps u knew na?
    grabeha sad ani uy...

  10. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikage View Post
    Clear and Plain...God on earth............That's what makes us one....

    Upon this Rock, I will build my kingdom.....peter (first pope) was entrusted the keys of heaven....

    of Course, the protestants wont accept this meaning becz, if they do, then there would be no protestants...cz who will be their head....who will be their leader while Jesus's Parousia is not
    yet fulfilled?
    How do you explain this?

    "We [the popes] hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty."

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