Windows 7: Play Crysis Without a GPU

[lokster]

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The following are benchmarks from Microsoft’s own test of Crysis, running at 800x600 with the lowest quality settings:

lame lol how can you enjoy crysis on lowerst graphics?!?!?!

Windows 7: Play Crysis Without a GPU - Tom's Hardware

read this LOL crysis on 5FPS per second?! thats highly unplayable and barely enjoyable heck your better off NOT having support. lol yes you can play a game but is it even enjoyable or practical>? xD

[carmicael]

lame lol how can you enjoy crysis on lowerst graphics?!?!?!

Windows 7: Play Crysis Without a GPU - Tom's Hardware

read this LOL crysis on 5FPS per second?! thats highly unplayable and barely enjoyable heck your better off NOT having support. lol yes you can play a game but is it even enjoyable or practical>? xD

LOL. you seem to look only at tables/images whilst reading an article, sir. because, you missed statements before the tables were presented:

According to Microsoft, even the lowest-end discrete graphics solutions these days are typically 4 to 5X faster than a CPU-only WARP system. Although the performance differences between CPU-only WARP and discrete GPU accelerated graphics is large, WARP offers several advantages:

• users will still be able to run their 3D applications fully-accelerated when a video card driver is corrupted, missing, or improperly installed/configured.
  
  
• Systems built to take advantage of WARP from a hardware standpoint will be able to display graphics even when the video card is missing—or toasted.

So if you’ve nuked your graphics card from a bad BIOS flash, fear not on a WARP-capable system. At least you will be able to boot back up until the video card is replaced.

the title (Windows 7: Play Crysis Without a GPU) is merely a catch phrase sir, and does not describe the purpose of WARP technology.

[lokster]

i look at the tables because it is the center of the article.

WHY would they use WARP to benchmark crysis? obviously the 3D applications they talk about are games. what else will it be used for? Cinema4D? please lol most editing software is processor based not GPU based.

over hyped MS feature that is quite useless xD i bet you cant even play tiberium wars decently xD

way way lame xD

[carmicael]

i look at the tables because it is the center of the article.

so, you READ only the central parts of articles, sir, meaning, one part of an article, not the whole picture, incomplete. that's where we get uneducated and one-sided guesses/information from, sir.

WHY would they use WARP to benchmark crysis? obviously the 3D applications they talk about are games. what else will it be used for? Cinema4D? please lol most editing software is processor based not GPU based.

again, the target of WARP is for the PC to run minus the GPU during GPU problems (missing/corrupt drivers, fried VC's). it is not something used to play graphic-demanding games.
crysis was used to give an impression of WARP's capabilities. basically, marketing. a typical user might think "hey, it can run crysis @ 5FPS, well, it should take care of my basic needs in times of graphics crises."

i bet you cant even play tiberium wars decently xD

maybe it can't run tiberium wars decently, but then again, was this technology created MAINLY for games?

over hyped MS feature that is quite useless

(over)hyped or not, this feature will most definitely NOT be useless. in case you didn't read the part where WARP's purposes/advantages were stated, i'd quote them again:

According to Microsoft, even the lowest-end discrete graphics solutions these days are typically 4 to 5X faster than a CPU-only WARP system. Although the performance differences between CPU-only WARP and discrete GPU accelerated graphics is large, WARP offers several advantages:

• users will still be able to run their 3D applications fully-accelerated when a video card driver is corrupted, missing, or improperly installed/configured.
  
  
• Systems built to take advantage of WARP from a hardware standpoint will be able to display graphics even when the video card is missing—or toasted.

So if you’ve nuked your graphics card from a bad BIOS flash, fear not on a WARP-capable system. At least you will be able to boot back up until the video card is replaced.

try to at least read 2/3 of articles sir. you might make good guesses next time.

cheers.

[lokster]

. a typical user might think "hey, it can run crysis @ 5FPS, well, it should take care of my basic needs in times of graphics crises."

maybe it can't run tiberium wars decently, but then again, was this technology created MAINLY for games?

uh yeah. intel thinks it can take on video cards on laptops and try so with the gma 950 and x3100 which are the worst lol you better off with ati or nvidia.


a typical user wouldnt even know what an FPS is, and HOW can 5FPS be a benchmark to meet ones needs for GPU processing? ROFLMAO! oh i can run crysis 5FPS that should solve my GPU problems?!?! LOL do you even read what you say?
even integrated video cards IN THE MOTHERBOARD can do better. xD

lol how about quoting the whole article instead of the part that you like?

this week, Microsoft unveiled one of Windows 7’s new features, which will allow games and other DirectX 10 and 10.1-based applications to run fully accelerated on obsolete graphics hardware, and even on systems with no graphics acceleration at all.

Dubbed Windows Advanced Rasterization Platform or WARP, the new graphics layer for Windows 7 will utilize the system CPU as the graphics engine to assist old graphics cards, and take over completely in some cases. Microsoft indicates that WARP will be fully dependent on how powerful the CPU is in a system, but will require one that supports at least SSE2 extensions.

According to Microsoft, even the lowest-end discrete graphics solutions these days are typically 4 to 5X faster than a CPU-only WARP system. Although the performance differences between CPU-only WARP and discrete GPU accelerated graphics is large, WARP offers several advantages: users will still be able to run their 3D applications fully-accelerated when a video card driver is corrupted, missing, or improperly installed/configured. Systems built to take advantage of WARP from a hardware standpoint will be able to display graphics even when the video card is missing—or toasted. So if you’ve nuked your graphics card from a bad BIOS flash, fear not on a WARP-capable system. At least you will be able to boot back up until the video card is replaced.

WARP documentation indicates that the technology will take full advantage of multi-core CPUs and, given today’s technology, Intel’s Core i7 CPU tops the charts.

The following are benchmarks from Microsoft’s own test of Crysis, running at 800x600 with the lowest quality settings:

Crysis on Windows 7 WARP10: CPU Performance CPU Time Avg FPS Min FPS Max FPS
Core i7 8-Core @ 3.0GHz 271.75 7.36 3.45 15.01
Core 2 Quad (Penryn) @ 3.0GHz 351.35 5.69 2.49 10.95
Core 2 Duo (Penryn) @ 3.0GHz 573.98 3.48 1.35 6.61
Core 2 Duo @ 2.6GHz 707.19 2.83 0.81 5.18
Core 2 Duo @ 2.4GHz 763.25 2.62 0.76 4.70
Core 2 Duo @ 2.1GHz 908.87 2.20 0.64 3.72
Xeon 8 Core @ 2.0GHz 424.04 4.72 1.84 9.56
AMD FX74 4-Core @ 3.0GHz 583.12 3.43 1.41 5.78
Phenom X4 9550 Quad-Core @ 2.2GHz 664.69 3.01 0.53 5.46

Crysis on Windows 7 WARP10: GPU Performance Discrete GPU Time Avg FPS Min FPS Max FPS
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 23.58 84.80 60.78 130.83
NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT 47.63 41.99 25.67 72.57
NVIDIA Quadro 290 67.16 29.78 18.19 79.87
NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 59.01 33.89 21.22 51.82
ATI Radeon HD 3400 53.79 37.18 22.97 59.77
ATI Radeon 3200 67.19 29.77 18.91 45.74
ATI Radeon 2400 PRO 67.04 29.83 17.97 45.91
Intel DX10 Integrated 386.97 5.17 1.74 16.22

Notice that Intel’s Core i7 quad-core solution with Hyper-Threading, running at 3.0 GHz, outperforms Intel’s best integrated graphics solution.

According to Microsoft’s WARP documentation:

When WARP10 is running on the CPU, we are limited compared to a graphics card in a number of ways. The front side bus speed of a CPU is typically around or under 10 GB/s whereas a graphics card often has dedicated memory that is able to take advantage of 20-100 GB/s or more of graphics bandwidth. Graphics hardware also has fixed function units that can perform complex and expensive tasks like texture filtering, format decompression or conversions asynchronously with very little overhead or power cost. Performing these operations on a typical CPU is expensive in terms of both power consumption and performance cost in cycles.

WARP Capabilities:

* Fully supports all Direct3D 10 and 10.1 feature
o Fully supports all the precision requirements of the Direct3D 10 and 10.1 specification
o Supports Direct3D 11 when used with FeatureLevel 9_1, 9_2, 9_3, 10_0 and 10_1
o Supports all optional texture formats, such as multi-sample render targets and sampling from float surfaces.
o Supports anti-aliased, high quality rendering up to 8x MSAA.
o Supports anisotropic filtering
o Supports 32 and 64 bit applications as well as large address aware 32 bit applications.
* The minimum specification for WARP10 is the same as Windows Vista, specifically:
o Minimum 800MHz CPU.
o MMX, SSE or SSE2 is *not* required
o Minimum 512MB of RAM.

Clearly WARP won’t be the ideal way to run the latest games. Nor do we expect enthusiasts with Core i7s to also be replacing integrated graphics. Thus, it’ll be interesting to see where Microsoft goes with this feature. WARP will be compatible on both x86 and x64 systems.

maybe you yourself should double check on reading the article. haha you only highlighted what you want to see xD

please LIST of PRACTICAL

3D applications fully-accelerated when a video card driver is corrupted, missing, or improperly installed/configured.

software that people use everyday if not specialized.

that you soooo love to quote?

oh btw if you read the first part of the article, which i dont think you did and if you think about it..

WHAT OBSOLETE graphics card will fit in a dual core let alone a multi core i7?! if you can afford a i7 or dual core why not a decent or dedicated graphics? lol surely drivers that come with the card will work and if its not working RMA it xD

[wak_wak]

unsa ni sya?

windows xp - vista - windows 7? sakto?

[carmicael]

uh yeah. intel thinks it can take on video cards on laptops and try so with the gma 950 and x3100 which are the worst lol you better off with ati or nvidia.

and, your point is... sir??

a typical user wouldnt even know what an FPS is, and HOW can 5FPS be a benchmark to meet ones needs for GPU processing? ROFLMAO! oh i can run crysis 5FPS that should solve my GPU problems?!?! LOL do you even read what you say?
even integrated video cards IN THE MOTHERBOARD can do better. xD

sir, by GPU problems i NEVER meant GPU incompetence. i meant literal GPU problems. crashes. burn-outs. i'm not sure if you understand these, though. a typical user thinks : "ah, it can run a high-end game, so it should not have a problem running my BASIC applications at all..."

lol how about quoting the whole article instead of the part that you like?

you can lol all you want sir, but that doesn't change the fact that my point was (let me quote the parts of the article which you highlighted):

Microsoft unveiled one of Windows 7’s new features, which will allow games and other DirectX 10 and 10.1-based applications to run fully accelerated on obsolete graphics hardware, and even on systems with no graphics acceleration at all.

that's basically the point of the whole thing.

According to Microsoft, even the lowest-end discrete graphics solutions these days are typically 4 to 5X faster than a CPU-only WARP system.

proof that you don't read things as a whole. i mentioned this in my previous post. (in my two previous posts, for that matter.)

When WARP10 is running on the CPU, we are limited compared to a graphics card in a number of ways. The front side bus speed of a CPU is typically around or under 10 GB/s whereas a graphics card often has dedicated memory that is able to take advantage of 20-100 GB/s or more of graphics bandwidth. Graphics hardware also has fixed function units that can perform complex and expensive tasks like texture filtering, format decompression or conversions asynchronously with very little overhead or power cost. Performing these operations on a typical CPU is expensive in terms of both power consumption and performance cost in cycles.

duh, graphics --> GPU. WARP's functions, i'll state again, for your convenience, is to make use of a CPU in times of a GPU problem. and by problem, i don't mean incompetence, i mean literal GPU problems.

maybe you yourself should double check on reading the article. haha you only highlighted what you want to see xD

you amuse me sir.

please LIST of PRACTICAL software that people use everyday if not specialized.

a simple yet practical use is during GPU emergencies, sir.

that you soooo love to quote?

i'd quote for you so you can understand sir. from the looks of it, you don't actually read things as a whole.

oh btw if you read the first part of the article, which i dont think you did and if you think about it..

WHAT OBSOLETE graphics card will fit in a dual core let alone a multi core i7?! if you can afford a i7 or dual core why not a decent or dedicated graphics? lol surely drivers that come with the card will work and if its not working RMA it xD

was WARP created solely for dual-cores or core i7 for that matter?? get your facts straight sir. but then again, maybe you can't. XD

cheers.

[waterboy0911]

Windows 7 is a product name.... code name is Vienna

search at youtube..

[lokster]

and, your point is... sir??
sir, by GPU problems i NEVER meant GPU incompetence. i meant literal GPU problems. crashes. burn-outs. i'm not sure if you understand these, though. a typical user thinks : "ah, it can run a high-end game, so it should not have a problem running my BASIC applications at all..."
you can lol all you want sir, but that doesn't change the fact that my point was (let me quote the parts of the article which you highlighted):
that's basically the point of the whole thing.

duh, graphics --> GPU. WARP's functions, i'll state again, for your convenience, is to make use of a CPU in times of a GPU problem. and by problem, i don't mean incompetence, i mean literal GPU problems.

how often does your GPU crash and burn?? LOL has your graphics card crashed and burned? if it does burn doesnt your computer go with it? unless you overclock which i dont think you know either xD

a simple yet practical use is during GPU emergencies, sir.

you didnt answer my question, or did you even read it?

let me quote you so you can read it again

please LIST of PRACTICAL software that people use everyday if not specialized

aw cant read or list it? maybe because its useless and you dont use GPU intensive software?

was WARP created solely for dual-cores or core i7 for that matter?? get your facts straight sir. but then again, maybe you can't. XD

if you can afford dual cores and i7 for that matter you can afford a dedicated cheap solution. LOL

ROFLMAO you dont even read or understand what i say. its like talking to a wall hahaha

cheers dude

enjoy your WARP10 im going to play crysis warhead on maximum graphics and far cry 2 later. malaria hurts xD

[softtouch]

Peace, people!