Is Evolutionist Science worth believing?

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Transitional fossil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Misconceptions

It is commonly claimed by critics of evolution that there are no transitional fossils.[5][3][6] Such claims may be based on a misunderstanding of the nature of what represents a transitional feature,[5] or according to Donald Prothero, may be a tactic actively employed by creationists seeking to distort or discredit evolutionary theory.[3] Prothero has called that claim the "favourite lie" of creationists and further said that it was "manifestly untrue".[3]

A common, though fallacious, creationist argument is that no fossils are found with partially functional features. Vestigial organs are common in whales for example.[7]. Also, there is evidence that a complex feature with one function can adapt to a wholly different function through evolution in a process known as exaptation. The precursor to, for example, a wing, might originally have only been used for gliding, trapping flying prey, and/or mating display. Nowadays, wings may still have all of these functions, while also being used for active flight.

Although transitional fossils elucidate the evolutionary transition of one life-form to another, they only exemplify snapshots of this process. Due to the special circumstances required for preservation of remains, only a very small percentage of all life-forms that ever have existed can be expected to be represented in discoveries. Thus, the transition itself can only be illustrated and corroborated by transitional fossils, but it will never be "caught in the act" as it were. Creationists often argue against this, claiming it is merely a convenient way to explain the lack of 'snapshot' fossils that show crucial steps between species. However, progress in research and new discoveries continue to fill in such gaps, and in modern thinking evolution is pictured as a bush of lines of development, not the simplistic ladder of progress that was common before Darwin published his theory and still influences popular opinion.

The theory of punctuated equilibrium developed by Stephen Jay Gould and Niles Eldredge and first presented in 1972[8] is often mistakenly drawn into the discussion of transitional fossils. This theory, however, pertains only to well-documented transitions within taxa or between closely related taxa over a geologically short period of time. These transitions, usually traceable in the same geological outcrop, often show small jumps in morphology between extended periods of morphological stability. To explain these jumps, Gould and Eldredge envisaged comparatively long periods of genetic stability separated by periods of rapid evolution.

[edit] Missing links

A popular term used to designate transitional forms is "missing links". The term tends to be used in the popular media, but is avoided in the scientific press as it is inaccurate and confusing. In reality, the discovery of more and more transitional fossils continues to add to knowledge of evolutionary transitions.

The term was used by Charles Lyell in a somewhat different way in his Elements of Geology of 1851, but was popularised in its present meaning by its appearance in Lyell's Geological Evidences of the Antiquity of Man of 1863, p. xi. By that time geologists had abandoned a literal biblical account and it was generally thought that the end of the last glacial period marked the first appearance of humanity, a view Lyell's Elements presented. His Antiquity of Man drew on new findings to put the origin of human beings much further back in the deep geological past. Lyell's vivid writing fired the public imagination, inspiring Jules Verne's Journey to the Center of the Earth, and Louis Figuier's 1867 second edition of La Terre avant le déluge which included dramatic illustrations of savage men and women wearing animal skins and wielding stone axes, in place of the Garden of Eden shown in the 1863 edition.[9]

The idea of a "missing link" between humans and so-called "lower" animals lodged permanently in the public imagination. The concept was fuelled by the discovery of Australopithecus africanus (Taung Child), Java Man, Homo erectus, Sinanthropus pekinensis (Peking Man) and other Hominina fossils.

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OT: kanang mo barog ang imoha bai does that count as Homo ERECTUS? LMAO. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Hitler, Darwinism and the Holocaust

• Darwin's idea that evolution means "the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life" eventually led to Nazism and the Jewish holocaust- even though Darwin himself would have been appalled at the thought."

• In Mein Kampf (My Struggle), Hitler used the German word for evolution (Entwicklung) many times, citing "lower human types." He criticized the Jews for bringing "Negroes into the Rhineland" with the aim of "ruining the white race by the necessarily resulting bastardization." He spoke of "Monstrosities halfway between man and ape" and lamented the fact of Christians going to "Central Africa" to set up "Negro missions," resulting in the turning of "healthy . . . human beings into a rotten brood of bastards." In his chapter entitled "Nation and Race," he said, "The stronger must dominate and not blend with the weaker, thus sacrificing his own greatness. Only the born weakling can view this as cruel, but he, after all, is only a weak and limited man; for if this law did not prevail, any conceivable higher development (Hoherentwicklung) of organic living beings would be unthinkable." A few pages later, he said, "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."

• When Hitler came to power in 1933, he installed a dictatorship with one agenda: enactment of his radical Nazi racial philosophy built on Darwinian evolution. He sought, in Darwin's terms, to preserve the "favored" race in the struggle for survival. Brute strength and intelligence would be the driving force of the Nazi plan.

• The first task was to eliminate the weak and those with impure blood that would corrupt the race. These included the disabled, ill, Jews, and Gypsies. Second, the Nazis sought to expand Germany's borders in order to achieve more living space, or "Lebensraum," to make room for the expansion of the "favoured" race. Third, the Nazis set about to eliminate communism because of its threat to the Aryan race and because, according to Hitler, communism was the work of Bolshevik Jews.

• The plan quickly unfolded. An order to sterilize some 400,000 Germans was issued within five months of Hitler's rise to power. The order, set to take effect on January 1, 1934, listed nine "categories of the unfit" to be sterilized: feebleminded, schizophrenia, manic depression, Huntington's chorea, epilepsy, hereditary body deformities, deafness, hereditary blindness, and alcoholism. The Nuremberg Laws were passed in 1935 to prohibit marriage between Jews and Germans and to strip Jews of their German citizenship.

• Instead of letting chance factors dominate reproduction decisions, Hitler proposed that the scientists use the power of the state to influence these decisions so that the gene pool would shift to what “informed conclusions” concluded was the desired direction. Consequently, Hitler encouraged those individuals that he perceived as having Aryan traits to mate, and discouraged “interbreeding,” supposing that this policy would gradually cause the Aryan race to evolve “upward”. He believed that the Nazi race programs would further evolution by intelligently deciding which traits were not beneficial, and preventing those with them from reproducing.

• The Nazis established eugenic courts to ensure that the eugenic laws were enforced. To identify the unfit, German eugenicists compared the individual health files of millions of Germans with medical records from hospitals and the National Health Service. The American firm, IBM, aided the effort by automating a national card file system that cross-indexed the defective.

• After Hitler invaded Poland in 1939, the Nazis became even more aggressive toward the weak. Approximately 100,000 Germans, labeled "useless eaters" by the Nazis, were killed. The victims were patients in nursing homes and medical facilities, as well as Jewish mentally disturbed and disabled. The Nazis ordered all of these exterminated. Ultimately, some 11 million people (and possibly more), six million from Jewish descent, were killed by the Nazi death machine.

• An important argument that Hitler used to support his programs of racial genocide of the Jews, Blacks and other groups was that they were genetically “inferior” and that their interbreeding with the superior Aryan race would adversely affect the latter's gene pool, polluting it, and lowering the overall quality of the "pure race."

• "Richard Weikart, author of From Darwin to Hitler, outlines in simplified fashion the route from Darwin to Hitler: First, Darwinism undermined traditional morality and the value of human life. Then, evolutionary progress became the new moral imperative. This aided the advance of eugenics, which was overtly founded on Darwinian principles. Some eugenicists began advocating euthanasia and infanticide for the disabled. On a parallel track, some prominent Darwinists argued that human racial competition and war are part of the Darwinian struggle for existence. Hitler imbibed these social Darwinist ideas, blended in virulent anti-Semitism, and-there you have it: Holocaust."

• "The Darwin-driven Nazi Holocaust illustrates what can happen when man forgets and rejects God. When that happens, a vacuum is created into which many false, foolish, and fatal ideas can come rushing in. When He who gave mankind the true Tree of Life is rejected, error and infamy can quickly follow."

Hitler's Holocaust Inspired by Darwinism

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OT: kanang mo barog ang imoha bai does that count as Homo ERECTUS? LMAO. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

hihihihi kung di mogahi kay HOMOK ERECTUS hihihihi

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arang ninduta pa jud sa nacontribute sa Darwinism sa Holocaust...

Hitler, Darwinism and the Holocaust

• Darwin's idea that evolution means "the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life" eventually led to Nazism and the Jewish holocaust- even though Darwin himself would have been appalled at the thought."

• In Mein Kampf (My Struggle), Hitler used the German word for evolution (Entwicklung) many times, citing "lower human types." He criticized the Jews for bringing "Negroes into the Rhineland" with the aim of "ruining the white race by the necessarily resulting bastardization." He spoke of "Monstrosities halfway between man and ape" and lamented the fact of Christians going to "Central Africa" to set up "Negro missions," resulting in the turning of "healthy . . . human beings into a rotten brood of bastards." In his chapter entitled "Nation and Race," he said, "The stronger must dominate and not blend with the weaker, thus sacrificing his own greatness. Only the born weakling can view this as cruel, but he, after all, is only a weak and limited man; for if this law did not prevail, any conceivable higher development (Hoherentwicklung) of organic living beings would be unthinkable." A few pages later, he said, "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."

• When Hitler came to power in 1933, he installed a dictatorship with one agenda: enactment of his radical Nazi racial philosophy built on Darwinian evolution. He sought, in Darwin's terms, to preserve the "favored" race in the struggle for survival. Brute strength and intelligence would be the driving force of the Nazi plan.

• The first task was to eliminate the weak and those with impure blood that would corrupt the race. These included the disabled, ill, Jews, and Gypsies. Second, the Nazis sought to expand Germany's borders in order to achieve more living space, or "Lebensraum," to make room for the expansion of the "favoured" race. Third, the Nazis set about to eliminate communism because of its threat to the Aryan race and because, according to Hitler, communism was the work of Bolshevik Jews.

• The plan quickly unfolded. An order to sterilize some 400,000 Germans was issued within five months of Hitler's rise to power. The order, set to take effect on January 1, 1934, listed nine "categories of the unfit" to be sterilized: feebleminded, schizophrenia, manic depression, Huntington's chorea, epilepsy, hereditary body deformities, deafness, hereditary blindness, and alcoholism. The Nuremberg Laws were passed in 1935 to prohibit marriage between Jews and Germans and to strip Jews of their German citizenship.

• Instead of letting chance factors dominate reproduction decisions, Hitler proposed that the scientists use the power of the state to influence these decisions so that the gene pool would shift to what “informed conclusions” concluded was the desired direction. Consequently, Hitler encouraged those individuals that he perceived as having Aryan traits to mate, and discouraged “interbreeding,” supposing that this policy would gradually cause the Aryan race to evolve “upward”. He believed that the Nazi race programs would further evolution by intelligently deciding which traits were not beneficial, and preventing those with them from reproducing.

• The Nazis established eugenic courts to ensure that the eugenic laws were enforced. To identify the unfit, German eugenicists compared the individual health files of millions of Germans with medical records from hospitals and the National Health Service. The American firm, IBM, aided the effort by automating a national card file system that cross-indexed the defective.

• After Hitler invaded Poland in 1939, the Nazis became even more aggressive toward the weak. Approximately 100,000 Germans, labeled "useless eaters" by the Nazis, were killed. The victims were patients in nursing homes and medical facilities, as well as Jewish mentally disturbed and disabled. The Nazis ordered all of these exterminated. Ultimately, some 11 million people (and possibly more), six million from Jewish descent, were killed by the Nazi death machine.

• An important argument that Hitler used to support his programs of racial genocide of the Jews, Blacks and other groups was that they were genetically “inferior” and that their interbreeding with the superior Aryan race would adversely affect the latter's gene pool, polluting it, and lowering the overall quality of the "pure race."

• "Richard Weikart, author of From Darwin to Hitler, outlines in simplified fashion the route from Darwin to Hitler: First, Darwinism undermined traditional morality and the value of human life. Then, evolutionary progress became the new moral imperative. This aided the advance of eugenics, which was overtly founded on Darwinian principles. Some eugenicists began advocating euthanasia and infanticide for the disabled. On a parallel track, some prominent Darwinists argued that human racial competition and war are part of the Darwinian struggle for existence. Hitler imbibed these social Darwinist ideas, blended in virulent anti-Semitism, and-there you have it: Holocaust."

• "The Darwin-driven Nazi Holocaust illustrates what can happen when man forgets and rejects God. When that happens, a vacuum is created into which many false, foolish, and fatal ideas can come rushing in. When He who gave mankind the true Tree of Life is rejected, error and infamy can quickly follow."

Hitler's Holocaust Inspired by Darwinism

hmmmmm....

hhihihihi mga bradix tan-awa ninyo ang website aning Straight talk about issues affecting America today naa tanan kolorom nga mga information. kining post sa atong bradix pien dire na niya kuha-a hihihihi tan-awa ninyo kung unsang klase nga source iyang gamit para pangilad hihihihi

para sa atong igsoon nga si pien: "A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself. ~Proverbs 18:2

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Mga bradix dia ra ang mga matinud-anon nga mga sources sa evolution sa National Academy of Sciences The National Academies

naay mga free downloadables diha.

Learn more about NAS --> United States National Academy of Sciences - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) is a corporation in the United States whose members serve pro bono as "advisers to the nation on science, engineering, and medicine."

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hhihihihi mga bradix tan-awa ninyo ang website aning Straight talk about issues affecting America today naa tanan kolorom nga mga information. kining post sa atong bradix pien dire na niya kuha-a hihihihi tan-awa ninyo kung unsang klase nga source iyang gamit para pangilad hihihihi

para sa atong igsoon nga si pien: "A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself. ~Proverbs 18:2

toinks! lupig pa diay nimo ang husgado kay mudawat man sila ug xerox copy basta tinuod lang...

dia pay lain oh:

In the conclusion of From Darwin to Hitler, Weikart writes:

Darwinism by itself did not produce the Holocaust, but without Darwinism, especially in its social Darwinist and eugenics permutations, neither Hitler nor his Nazi followers would have had the necessary scientific underpinnings to convince themselves and their collaborators that one of the world's greatest atrocities was really morally praiseworthy. Darwinism - or at least some naturalistic interpretation of darwinism - succeeded in turning morality on its head.

In Weikart's book he states:

Darwin clearly believed that the struggle for existence among humans would result in racial extermination. In Descent of Man he asserted, "At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races."

Richard Weikart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

wikipedia na ha...

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That goes without saying Christians will be killing each other for years to come. So akong masulti ra. May the best Christian win.

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In the conclusion of From Darwin to Hitler, Weikart writes:

Darwinism by itself did not produce the Holocaust, but without Darwinism, especially in its social Darwinist and eugenics permutations, neither Hitler nor his Nazi followers would have had the necessary scientific underpinnings to convince themselves and their collaborators that one of the world's greatest atrocities was really morally praiseworthy. Darwinism - or at least some naturalistic interpretation of darwinism - succeeded in turning morality on its head.

In Weikart's book he states:

Darwin clearly believed that the struggle for existence among humans would result in racial extermination. In Descent of Man he asserted, "At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races."

Richard Weikart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

wikipedia na ha...

ILAD ILAD NAPOD AY...POST TANAN BRADIX IMONG SOURCE...

Imo manang gimaniobra imong source para makailad ka tsk tsk... bisag kinsay pabasahon anang imong source sa wiki kay klaro kaayo nga si Richard Weikart kay mangingilad pod pareho ninyo.

MGA BRADIX dia ra ang iyang source "kuno" Richard Weikart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
siya ray naunay sa iyang source nga maoy nikontra sa iyang gipost...pagkabryt gyud hihihihi

Summary ay:

From Darwin to Hitler

Weikart is best known for his 2004 book From Darwin to Hitler: Evolutionary Ethics, Eugenics and Racism in Germany.[8][9] The Discovery Institute, the hub of the intelligent design movement, "provided crucial funding" for the book's research.[10] Prominent historian and critic of the Intelligent design movement, Barbara Forest, states that the book is tied to the DI's 'wedge strategy' of attacking Darwinian science as morally corrupting.[11] This strategy aims to "defeat [the] materialist world view" represented by the theory of evolution in favor of "a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions."[12]

In 2008, he appeared in Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, a pro-Intelligent design movie, which among other claims, strongly implies that Charles Darwin's ideas led to Adolf Hitler's atrocities.[13] In The Modesto Bee, Bret Carroll, Weikart's colleague in the Stanislaus history department, wrote "That 'intelligent design' is not a scientific theory" and the Expelled movie "misuses Weikart's research by mistakenly implying that Darwin led inevitably to Hitler. In fact, scientific theories, even those like Darwin's that address organic life, are morally neutral."[14] He also appears in Coral Ridge Ministries' 2006 creationist film "Darwin's Deadly Legacy" in which Weikart claims "Darwinian ideology is the core" of Nazism and D. James Kennedy, therefore, concludes "No Darwin, no Hitler." In addition, Creation Ministries International cites Weikart as "reinforcing the Darwin–Hitler connection."[15]

Gipamugos gyud diay ni ni Weikart iyang kinwanggol...tsk tsk...

Academic reception

The academic community has been critical of the book. Andrew Zimmerman, a professor of German history, was critical in his review in the American Historical Review, writing "Weikart presents an image of Darwinism at once both too narrow and too broad."[26] Zimmerman wrote, "The German Darwinians who are the focus of the book appear only as advocates of eugenics, racism, and imperialism, although presumably these policies were informed by a broader intellectual project. At the same time, German anthropologists, who opposed Darwinism before the turn of the century (as a doctrine possessing no more empirical foundation than revealed religion does), are lumped with Darwinists, since these anthropologists also supported imperialism and racist hierarchies."[26] Weikart replied to Zimmerman's criticism to which Zimmerman offered a rebuttal saying Weikart "distorts the history of Darwinism and anti-Darwinism in Germany in ways that reflect theocratic agendas in present-day American politics."[27] Weikart has written some responses to reviews on his webpage.[28]

Basaha ninyo ang link bradix kay diha ninyo makita giunsa pagmaniobra aning pien ang iyang source. hihihihi

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bro, scientist naman lagi diay ta ron? hehehehe. bitaw, nabasa nako ang post ni bro pien about Richard Weickart. It's obviously fact-twisting.

Richard Weickart has also been widely regarded by academicians, religious groups and scientists to have no credibility na at this point. He (Wieckart) even admitted that the title of his book is "misleading." Weickart is a poor source for those who are against evolution.