Protestants , what's with the Word?

[Raikage]

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karon pa ko ani bro,..i think they prefer to marry a Christian also than a Catholic,..because to serve God is to obey his will,..so much better to marry someone who is Christian also,.but not saying to marry a Catholic is a sin,..it's not in the Bible also and we are basing totally to the bible,..

Well I heard it from a friend firsthand......of course...there is no basis for this

[Raikage]

obviously not christian kay lutherans man .hehehe

Hahhahaha...nice logic!

[kenshinsasuke]

pasalamat pob baya ta nila kay na abli atong mata sa atong mga sayop.

kamo ra sad lage bro,..maayu unta mamisik mo pag-abli sa uban tawn,...

[Raikage]

hehehehe Lutheran-Christian nalang kaha no or Christian-Lutherans? Pero it's true...people mistake us for something else. And like many other sects we too have our problems about our doctrine. Also, not all Lutheran's are rigidly biblical or believers of Sola Scriptura (Bible alone) like myself.

Just like your group, RC's do not have the same opinion, but there is 1 teaching and which is promoted and preserved by the Church which do not change change overtime such as dogmas.
But doctrine do change because it depends on the civilization. We heard stories that in Luther's deathbed, he whispered the words " Go back to the Catholic Church" , It doesn't matter if this
is true but I am sure he wants unity and have already forseen the consequence of his separation
from the Church.

[brownprose]

Just like your group, RC's do not have the same opinion, but there is 1 teaching and which is promoted and preserved by the Church which do not change change overtime such as dogmas.

I agree. Doctrines also change by the exigency of modern findings. For example, Lutherans (not all though) have begun to embrace the scientific view on evolution. Many of us believe in evolution as much as there are those that don't. However, we don't make a fuzz out of it as it is not primary to the doctrine of salvation.

Lutherans also recognize many of the teachings of the Catholic church that some of which have been a significant part of our teachings as well like the Ten Commandments while other non-Catholics vary.

It should be clear that the reason why Lutherans break up with the Catholic Church wasn't at all on the MAJOR DIFFERENCES in doctrine but plainly on the profligacy, corruption (sale of indulgences) and oppression in the Catholic hierarchy. I would like to guess that there wouldn't have been as many killings if the Reformation took place in the 21st century.

But doctrine do change because it depends on the civilization. We heard stories that in Luther's deathbed, he whispered the words " Go back to the Catholic Church" , It doesn't matter if this
is true but I am sure he wants unity and have already forseen the consequence of his separation
from the Church.

I am not sure about this. But there are stories that were circulated in the past that Luther also wanted to confess to a priest during his remaining moments but no such official confirmation or documentation from both Lutherans and Catholics if such words were indeed uttered by Luther.

One thing I know though of is that Luther recognized the richness of the Catholic teaching that he encouraged his followers "to seek refuge to the Catholic church" for those other teachings that need clarification. But I don't think Lutheran's would still be encouraged to do the same today as we have pretty much established our own teachings already.

[Malic]

Some people from the born-again group(religion will not save you but relationship will ) would accuse lutherans and protestans as non-christian. They say that for them to know real christianity they must be born-again. Whatever that means

any comment/s ?

[brownprose]

Some people from the born-again group(religion will not save you but relationship will ) would accuse lutherans and protestans as non-christian. They say that for them to know real christianity they must be born-again. Whatever that means

any comment/s ?

IMHO, dogmas/doctrines (born again, trinitarianism, unitarianism, etc) don't make anyone a Christian or any better Christian/person for that matter. I see them as just among the many "belief systems" which, if taken positively, enhance one's spirituality and relations with his/her Creator no matter how he/she conceives or perceives that supreme creator he/she believes in.

We cannot bind God with our belief systems like a party to a contract. True relationships are not like contractual obligations that you build them by certain rules, terms, conditions, belief systems and etc. They only make the relationship superficial. And I think we need to look past all these to really know the meaning and purpose of one's spirituality.

[noi-noi]

most commonly nga gitawag ug protestant kay ang UCCP man.. United Church of Christ in the Philippines!! i'm a UCCPian!! hehehe

[kenshinsasuke]

Some people from the born-again group(religion will not save you but relationship will ) would accuse lutherans and protestans as non-christian. They say that for them to know real christianity they must be born-again. Whatever that means

any comment/s ?

yups,.agree on this,..it's from the bible,..


John 1: 13: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

John 3:
3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
5 Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Gal 4:
19: My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

[kenshinsasuke]

most commonly nga gitawag ug protestant kay ang UCCP man.. United Church of Christ in the Philippines!! i'm a UCCPian!! hehehe

ok sad na imuha bro,...