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  1. #101

    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    Una mahal nang mga eroplanoha.. ikaduha kalas ug gasolina.. if you buy those things you don't just let them sit in the hangar.. kinahanglan man jud na paluparon.. ikatulo gasto sa maintenance kung maguba..

    makaya ra bya jud siguro na makapalit ta mga bag-o na eroplano kung gastuhan lang jud.. ally bya ta sa US basin na ta discount pareha sa Israel..
    correct kaya kaayo mo buy.. kaya man gani sa ubang countries nga poor pa ug economy sa ato...

    mas mahal pa ang ZTE deal ni Abalos ug ang fertilizer scam ni Jocjoc Bolante.. imagine that?

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    my pa A-10 nlng for ground support.. tested pa na taas ug survivability if maigo ug enemy fire pareha sa A-10 sa Iraq na la na isa ka pako pero lupad lang gyapon

    Hind? hahaha.. they have a weak spot in their beHind basin ma shot down lang na sa mga rebelde they are very vulnerable because they are slow flying helicopters
    its either A10 or Su 25.. Pero Su 25 is better than A10.. in terms of performance, maintenance and price.

    I disagree.. Hind is a flying tank.. heavily-armored ni cya.. unless naay stinger missiles ang MILF.. shot down jud ni..

    So far wala may shot down nga light-armored Huey from enemy fire.. but mechanical failure ra.
    Last edited by flanker; 11-05-2008 at 09:22 PM.

  3. #103
    Kung gusto ninyo ug hi tech jets, kaya kaayo na paliton sa pilipinas. Ang problema diha nga dako kaayo, ang pag maintain ug pag train sa mga personnel like pilots and mechanics ug uban pa like spare parts and armaments. Mao na ang dako kaayo ug gikinahanglan nga budget. Maglisod man gani ang goberno pag maintain sa usa ka C-130, kana pang hi tech nga jets?

  4. #104
    ngayo lang nya ta ni obama ug dli na gamiton nga plane sa US

  5. #105
    wala ta magkinahanglan ana oi bec. we have the naga and sequijor we can fly without wings and catch me if you can he he he

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    my pa A-10 nlng for ground support.. tested pa na taas ug survivability if maigo ug enemy fire pareha sa A-10 sa Iraq na la na isa ka pako pero lupad lang gyapon

    Hind? hahaha.. they have a weak spot in their beHind basin ma shot down lang na sa mga rebelde they are very vulnerable because they are slow flying helicopters

    Brod uyon ko nimo 110%..

    The A-10 warthogs is the best plane for the Philippines...slow but sure and just plain deadly..aw!

    then, buy F-16s for fast air support. cheap but the old reliable.

    Next, we should buy the Eurocopter, it is the Apache counter-part but less cheaper. For close-in air support. Can't get any better than that.

    Then, we should by CV-22's because they don't need airports and flies faster and carries more load than the Chinook.

    Can I continue kay giganahan ko...

    To rock the boat more..paliton nalang nato ang gi pang decomissioned na cannon based destroyers sa US. We dont need missiles (for now) we just need heavy sea-based artillery that can hop from island to island chasing the MILF/MNLF and NPAs.

    Bomb em!

  7. #107
    wow, ug mao nai atong mga gipanggamit dri bai, sure ko pulbos jud na sila...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cottonmouth View Post
    Brod uyon ko nimo 110%..

    then, buy F-16s for fast air support. cheap but the old reliable.
    CAS is more effectively (i.e. commensurate, in terms of cost over results) done by dedicated ground attack a/c (i.e. A-10, Frogfoot, etc.) rather than MRCA's (i.e. F-16C, Tornado, etc.). Furthermore, attack helos (esp. the Apache/Apache Longbow) have inflicted better statistics in CAS ops compared to all types of fixed wing a/c combined.

    MRCA's are better suited to situations wherein a CAS op has to be made, pero naay posebilidad nga naay enemy a/c's in the target area. Since A-10's and choppers are practically sitting ducks in cases like this, F-16's, the JAS Gripen, and the Tornado are well suited for such tasks. Now don't tell me the NPA has any jets.

    IMHO, if we do need MRCA's, in lieu of the F-16C, a wiser choice cost-wise (i.e. if I was asked to recommend what to buy for our air force) is the Swedish JAS Gripen. Can do most things an F-16C can do, for less. And this statement comes from a Viper die hard, and someone who is fanatic enough to know exactly how to cold-start a Viper.

    YouTube - FALCON4:AF F-16C Rampstart by rodsky

    I love the F-16, but when belt-tightening is the more important issue, the Gripen will do fine.

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 11-06-2008 at 02:26 PM.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    CAS is more effectively (i.e. commensurate, in terms of cost over results) done by dedicated a/c (i.e. A-10, Frogfoot, etc.) rather than MRCA's (i.e. F-16C, Tornado, etc.). Furthermore, attack helos (esp. the Apache/Apache Longbow) have inflicted better statistics in CAS ops compared to all types of fixed wing a/c combined.

    MRCA's are better suited to situations wherein a CAS op has to be made, pero naay posebilidad nga naay enemy a/c's in the target area. Since A-10's and choppers are practically sitting ducks in cases like this, F-16's, the JAS Gripen, and the Tornado are well suited for such tasks. Now don't tell me the NPA has any jets.

    IMHO, if we do need MRCA's, in lieu of the F-16C, a wiser choice cost-wise (i.e. if I was asked to recommend what to buy for our air force) is the Swedish JAS Gripen. Can do most things an F-16C can do, for less. And this statement comes from a Viper die hard, and someone who is fanatic enough to know exactly how to cold-start a Viper.

    YouTube - FALCON4:AF F-16C Rampstart by rodsky

    I love the F-16, but when belt-tightening is the more important issue, the Gripen will do fine.

    -RODION


    Cool with me. The louder the merrier. I just like the idea of the Warthog, although the initially cost would be high, the maintenance of this beast is remarkably low. Unless we start using the depleted Uranium shells, which we will not need against the rebels. Have you seen this beast fired its bloody cannon? Man, it rocks!

    For choppers...hmmm the Bell AH-1 Cobra I think would do just fine. We don't need the expensive Apache though. Heck, I would even think the AH-6 Little Bird could do the job as well, it just need to be armed to the teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cottonmouth View Post
    I would even think the AH-6 Little Bird could do the job as well, it just need to armed to the teeth.
    The PAF's Hughes MD 500's are actually a close cousin of the OH-6A / AH-6, and yes, with more ordnance, it would be close to the AH-6 role.

    -RODION

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