Cebu Velez College student killed in clash between Army and rebels

[GemWArrioR]

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hmmm. it differs man gud on what method you want to use.

remember 2 types lang ang struggle. parliamentary w/c is what u want and the other one is armed struggle.

both have the same intentions but differs in so many ways. due respect to those who take up arms. they can't just wait for their heads to be whacked by policemen while asking for greater subsidy for education, free medical services and job security.

yeah walay problema sa pagNGO. its a good thing ur doing something. but due respect for those who are taking up arms and have the noblest and most sincere intentions of fighting for the greater good.

they have been demonized even after they have been killed with their hands tied behind their backs and shot at the back of the head or even let to sleep overnight on a block of ice before being tortured further to their death byy the so called protectors of the people the afp.

i mean don't get me wrong but the way i seet it their is something wrong and this is sick.

oh by the way bein in an NGO is being active... just so you may know. kasi if ur not doing anything that would be passive...

can you give any evidences or links that you are accusing AFP. Let me remind you, once an AFP Soldier is killed in a battlefield, lubong lang diretso, pero if A NPA TERRORIST or REBEL is killed, daghan istorya, porke gi salvage, gi kidnap, torture. ALL of them are baseless, satsat lang walang ebidensiya. Tapos magkaso na sa CHR, tapos itong mga taga CHR one sided lang, kasuhan lang ang mga AFP.

Wala ako nakikita na magandang idudulot pag oras ka nag armas at naging rebelde o terrorista. Mawawala ang saysay ang iyong pinaglalaban oras namundok ka. Bakit Nasaan ang gobyerno natin, nasa BUNDOK ba ha? Bakit sila nagtatago kung tama ang pinaglalaban nila?

[radiostar]

can you give any evidences or links that you are accusing AFP. Let me remind you, once an AFP Soldier is killed in a battlefield, lubong lang diretso, pero if A NPA TERRORIST or REBEL is killed, daghan istorya, porke gi salvage, gi kidnap, torture. ALL of them are baseless, satsat lang walang ebidensiya. Tapos magkaso na sa CHR, tapos itong mga taga CHR one sided lang, kasuhan lang ang mga AFP

have you heard of the butcher palparan?

[junmar4]

have you heard of the butcher palparan?

Butcher? Just because he is doing his job?
Then how would you call the killers in your kangaroo courts, martyrs?

[jiro]

Do we need to struggle?

[GemWArrioR]

have you heard of the butcher palparan?

i said evidences, links, just like what you've been doing in your previous posts.

[bazarov]

OT: do i [sic] know you? Your manner and style of writing is very familiar, your taste for Mao more than Deng is also familiar, and your affinity for Russian literature is making me think that i [sic] know you. But then again i [sic] could be mistaken.

What affinity for Russian literature? Is Georges Simenon Russian? Is Perec Russian? Is Malraux Russian? Is Balzac Russian? Is Zola Russian? Is The_Child supposed to be some kind of psychic? This is what we get from the excessive play of words. We begin to presume too much. And what taste for Mao or Deng? You speak of dead old men as if they were some kind of food. In short, The_Child has this predilection to talk with a pretension of familiarity that I find worthy of disdain.

He declares that "The spectacle of Martyrdom is a part of a psychological conditioning... In our times, historians are no longer the star-makers, it is the media..." And so on... In short, The_Child effectively negated his own statement on the inability of memories to effect change in a roundabout, jargon-filled, and very cluttered (to the point of incomprehensibility) manner. To put it brusquely, he shot his own feet.

The memory of the dead, I repeat, can galvanize change. The media has long been seen by the actors involved in this issue as an arena of conflict. How the event is interpreted or whose interpretation is eventually accepted as truth is determined by who among the two contending forces are more adept at the chosen field of battle (in this case the "mediasphere").

Looking at his avatar (containing the image of a "philosopher" who is not taken seriously in his own country), one is bound to conclude that The_Child is overwhelmingly *** deprived. And what can one expect from an ardent reader of Batailles (another discredited Frenchman who is a writer of pornography)? The_Child's rambling reply, filed with seemingly endless repetitions of the mantra "***, ***, ***," confirm this.

[jiro]

The way i see it.

NPA's are like Nazis.

a leader like Hitler. to them the government are the enemies (the jews) and npa's are the nazis.

so long as they commit human rights violation, kidnapping, extortion, murder, warfare. these guys are nothing more than terrorist not a propaganda. Its not worth fighting for.

[bazarov]

Questions also arise about the honesty of some leftist personalities who declared before that she isn't an NPA.

Who are these "leftist personalities"? Can you cite an instance where these people categorically stated that Palang wasn't a member of the insurgent group?

Let us turn our attention to examining how the "leftist personalities" that you so abhor construct meaning through their statements.

The local CEGP chapter's statement condemned "the act of the military in [sic] linking Rachelle with the New Peoples’ Army."

Read literally, this has to be considered a non-denial of Palang's membership to the armed group. The local CEGP chapter was not saying that she had not been a rebel. What the local CEGP chapter lambasted is the military's act of highlighting Palang's involvement with the armed group over the other aspects of her life and the resulting "linking" of the CEGP, a legal organization, to the underground movement.

Even by this simple reading, we can see that the difference in meaning is quite obvious.

Like the local chapter's official statement, the CEGP national leadership's own communique consistently addressed the "accusations and insinuations by the AFP that Mae-Mae was armed and a combatant." Her membership is again tiptoed over.Palang "was in Negros in her capacity as a registered nurse and circumstances surrounding her brutal killing should be independently investigated."

Meanwhile, a letter to the editor from a local activist praises Palang's having "ended up in the mountains and forests of Dauin, Negros Oriental to be with the ordinary folks, the farm workers and peasants, and learn from them." Rachelle Mae Palang, the letter continued, "was outstanding in her chosen field in the academe, activism and revolution." This is but one step from declaring Palang's involvement in the rebel movement.

Everything fits well with the NPA's recent admission of Palang's membership to their organization as a noncombatant.

The "dishonest" leftist personalities neither admitted nor denied Palang's being an unarmed NPA rebel.

[bazarov]

The way i see it.

NPA's are like Nazis. [sic]

a leader like Hitler. to them the government are the enemies (the jews) and npa's are the nazis.

so long as they commit human rights violation, kidnapping, extortion, murder, warfare. these guys are nothing more than terrorist not a propaganda. Its not worth fighting for.

And you think the victims of human rights violations, kidnapping, extortion, and murder committed by the Armed Forces of the Philippines do not think the same of the government? It's not as simple as that, my dear.

[giddyboy]

Who are these "leftist personalities"? Can you cite an instance where these people categorically stated that Palang wasn't a member of the insurgent group?

then how about this?

"The CEGP condemns in strongest terms accusations and insinuations by the AFP that Mae-Mae was armed and a combatant. She was in Negros in her capacity as a registered nurse and circumstances surrounding her brutal killing should be independently investigated."---Official statement of Vijae Aquisola, National President, CEGP

can this not qualify as denying and dishonesty, now that it's been established that Mae was an NPA? pina "condemns in strongest terms" pa gani na ha.

"The CEGP also condemns in strongest terms the AFP's malicious attempts to malign the Guild's name through red-tagging and nasty insinuations."---Vijae Aquisola

malicious attempt, red-tagging and nasty insinuations? now that Rachelle is confirmed an NPA member and at the same time a Vice president of CEGP?

IMHO and "pangagpas", one NPA member (Ka Dom Pantaleon) was very quick to write a newspaper that confirms Rachelle Mae was in fact a member. I surmise that if they deny for too long, authorities will look into and "hotly" investigate the CEGP heirarchy. That's because the families of Rachelle Mae already told the authorities about it, that they already knew she was a member but hid the truth. And syaro naman sab wa kahibalo ang iyang colleagues sa CEGP ani. Ilara ko tits!