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    Default BangsaMoro struggle n grievances!


    Im am creating this thread to give a brief idea about the bangsamoro struggles and grievances.

    i have here a link to a video that would give a brief explanation of this subject. Click it or copy paste it. In this video you will also get to see old pictures of the moro warriors of the past.

    if you really want to understand the struggle then go the the links.

    This is our history this is our story...

    YouTube - Moro's Grievances Under Philippine Government (Chapter 1)

    YouTube - BRIEF HISTORY OF BANGSAMORO STRUGGLE


    *disclaimer: i didnt made this video just found it while browsing, i kinda like it so i want to share it with you.

    Cnu ka nga ba pilipino?

    i hope pagkatapos nyong manood nito youll find your true indentity.

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    bisag unsa pa na ka tarong ilang explanation nya "THEY WERE LAUGHING WHILE KILLING PEOPLE", d ghapon ko mudefend nila..

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    @malic: the videos u posted were clearly biased in favor of the Moro separatists. They didn't even show a single iota of the other side. Yes, they are mostly history but the way its presented is in some way a form of propaganda.

    it is just like saying 'give back the land to the Aetas" or "give back the land to Datu Lapu2x", or something like that. History is past. Yes, it is also important to look back once in awhile but the only way to peace is looking forward. IMHO, i favor the change of heart of the MNLF to agree to ARMM, a peaceful solution. I know the break away of some of their members forming a separatist MILF, but look how they behave themselves nowadays. Killing civilians and burning their houses is not in any way "civilized". It's not also in any way a standard for RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.

    Ancestral domain is securing the rights of the "lumads". Lumads refer to indigenous people, not only Muslims but also other ethnic groups here like the Bagobos and Tbolis. It is nowhere in this description to make ancestral domains separate from the Philippines. Heck, for all we know, these Muslim separatists claiming to be "lumads" could have been migrants from nearby Malaysia...besides, who are still "lumads" nowadays huh?

    Mao btaw gihimo ang ARMM to acknowledge ancestral domain in some way. Sorry to say this but i think this separatist cause they are waving about is very much tainted with opportunism, discrimination, indifference, and SELFISHNESS.

    i know that in some way the Muslim people in Mindanao have been marginalized but it is the same story with the rest of the country. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT to decipher between marginalized by religion or ethnicity. Basing on ethnicity is deemed proper. But on religion? I don't think so. Our Constitution has no religion.

    Ethnic tribes in Luzon were marginalized. Aetas in Samar were too. The point is, we are no longer living in ethnic clusters. We are living in a globalized arena where Caucasians cross w/ Asians to bear mestizo kids. Take a look for example in the U.S.. It is a melting pot of all races. Even the whites now are the ones marginalized by Latin-Americans, Italian-Americans, Afro-Americans, Asian-Americans, etc...Take a look at Hongkong. Take a look at Malaysia, India, or Singapore. They've progressed coz they have set aside ethnic differences and worked together forward. NOT BACKWARD.

    If these rebels disown the Phil. gov't and saying Moroland shouldn't be part of the country in the first place, then they are not fit to be called FILIPINOS. Heck, they even shouldn't be fans of FPJ or Pacquiao.
    Last edited by giddyboy; 08-27-2008 at 12:50 PM.

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    basta away from zamboanga.

    Shoooo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_cebrecus
    bisag unsa pa na ka tarong ilang explanation nya "THEY WERE LAUGHING WHILE KILLING PEOPLE", d ghapon ko mudefend nila
    Sakto sad ka bai, mas maau pa jud unta ug mag kahiusa nalng ta gani unta, Muslim ba o Christiano, tabangan nalng nato ni atong nasod nga mu lambo pa! tapuson na nato ng gubat nga sauna pang panahon nga wa jud tumong! pasagdaan nalng unta to nato sila mga karaan man tong tawo, hilig man tog tribalwars... hehehe,

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    these videos made me furious as a christian and a filipino..there is nothing new here...why do they need to kill innocent civilians and terrorize the entire mindanao? why cant we just co-exist?...tsk tsk tsk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLU View Post
    these videos made me furious as a christian and a filipino..there is nothing new here...why do they need to kill innocent civilians and terrorize the entire mindanao? why cant we just co-exist?...tsk tsk tsk...
    then there's no reason for me to watch this video...

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble
    then there's no reason for me to watch this video...
    hahaha, dumot ni bai? hehehe

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    correct me if i'm wrong but what the vidz are saying is that filipinos, christian settlers are evil..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tingkoy13 View Post
    hahaha, dumot ni bai? hehehe
    dili man.. he he..

    if a christian and a filipino would suggest that there is nothing new there, then i guess there's no reason for me to watch it... they also said that it's bias so another reason not to see it...

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