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  1. #241

    So Homosexuality or Being Gay is not a sin.
    its the "act" that is a sin (as in gay-***).

    so in ur standpoint, its not a sin for gays to act and look like a female, so long as they dont act on homosexual lust.
    i hope u wuld agre with me.
    ive answered it..already ..
    so you mean to say a one is a heterosexual only when he or she engages in the sexual act? so our sexual act is what makes us homosexuals or heterosexuals?
    how about people who had never had *** how would we classify them..... "IT" ?


    " HOMOSEXUAL.... a person sexually attracted to persons of the same ***.
    it refers to enduring sexual and romantic attraction towards those of the same ***, but not necessarily to sexual behavior.Homosexuality is contrasted with heterosexuality (attraction, behavior, or orientation between opposite sexes).
    It also refers to an individual’s sense of personal and social identity based on those attractions and is their preferred lifestyle. "



    Quote Originally Posted by etienne View Post
    so u would agree with me that Homosexuality is NOT a CHoice?
    if its not a choice, then why are we being punished for something that we didnt CHOOSe in the first place.

    me personally, i didnt choose to be gay. i jus know im gay ever since i know myself, but y do i feel oppressed sometimes jus because of my sexuality? u even said that "Being Gay is a lifestyle of sin" - that sound sooo horrifying to me.

    psychiatric treatment and counselling BENEFICIAL LOL!!!!! i always belive that u cant change ones sexuality!

    God made me gay!

    sarcasm...wont do much.
    homosexuality is all in the mind !
    its your Choice to continue those gay practices .

    YOU SHOULD BE HORRIFIED yes...maybe now you will justify your acts, throw sarcasm left and right, twist facts,say blasphemous words "that God created you that way"
    I tell you now , you will answer to that one day.


    its about time you read the bible
    .


    "my expressed opinion on this forum my be mistaken as aggression to some,
    just a healthy debate folks
    nothing personal"

  2. #242
    This forum is going nowhere especially if we keep on quoting bible quotes.

    Hoping to hear someone quote from the Buddhist scriptures too, or from the Koran, or from the book of the Mormons perhaps. Hahaha..


    Anyway why don't you all ask God why he created gays?


    ..

  3. #243
    sarcasm...wont do much.
    homosexuality is all in the mind !
    its your Choice to continue those gay practices .

    YOU SHOULD BE HORRIFIED yes...maybe now you will justify your acts, throw sarcasm left and right, twist facts,say blasphemous words "that God created you that way"
    I tell you now , you will answer to that one day.


    its about time you read the bible
    .


    "my expressed opinion on this forum my be mistaken as aggression to some,
    just a healthy debate folks
    nothing personal"
    [/QUOTE]


    Let me ask you. Are you gay or not?

    If you're not gay just like etienne then your explanations would mean nothing and is leading to nowhere because you don't have any idea what these kind of people feel, what they have undergone ever since a kid, etc..

    //

  4. #244
    Thats is why I mentioned the word and statement HYPOCRITE and WHO WOULD WANT TO CAST THE FIRST STONE respectively .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  5. #245
    the topic involves CATHOLIC religion
    unsa man diay ato e base sa ato argument Comics or newspaper??

    bitaw i think ive said what needs to be said.

    Im really not homohobic nor am i against homos .
    thats your choice.

    my expressed
    opinion on this forum my be mistaken as aggression to some,
    just a healthy debate nothing personal.



    @ springfield i agree with you that only
    GOD can judge them and nobody else .

    as the saying goes "
    Give back to Cesar what is Cesar’s and to God what is God’s "





  6. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by springbok View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by etienne View Post
    so u would agree with me that Homosexuality is NOT a CHoice?
    if its not a choice, then why are we being punished for something that we didnt CHOOSe in the first place.

    me personally, i didnt choose to be gay. i jus know im gay ever since i know myself, but y do i feel oppressed sometimes jus because of my sexuality? u even said that "Being Gay is a lifestyle of sin" - that sound sooo horrifying to me.

    psychiatric treatment and counselling BENEFICIAL LOL!!!!! i always belive that u cant change ones sexuality!

    God made me gay!


    sarcasm...wont do much.
    homosexuality is all in the mind !
    its your Choice to continue those gay practices .

    YOU SHOULD BE HORRIFIED yes...maybe now you will justify your acts, throw sarcasm left and right, twist facts,say blasphemous words "that God created you that way"
    I tell you now , you will answer to that one day.


    its about time you read the bible
    .


    "my expressed opinion on this forum my be mistaken as aggression to some,
    just a healthy debate folks
    nothing personal"
    and ur still not answering my question in a direct way. but at least ur not bombarding us with bible quotes.

    i dont know how i became gay, i know its not my choice... how come it sudenly becomes a sin (assuming i hav not engage in ***)?

    GOD CREATED me this way... thats what i belive, because if not God, then who created me this way?? im sure its not me. im too young to decide at age five. im sure its not my parents too.



    .......................and its time for u to take back psycholgy classes under a very good and open professor, because ur idea of homosexuality is soooo twisted.

    i thot only the NAZIS viewed gay as abnormal, i cant believe there are still people who are like the nazis nowadays.

  7. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by springbok View Post
    ive answered it..already ..
    so you mean to say a one is a heterosexual only when he or she engages in the sexual act? so our sexual act is what makes us homosexuals or heterosexuals?
    how about people who had never had *** how would we classify them..... "IT" ?
    call me stupid watever, but sorry, i really dont get ur answer. ur logic seems a bit confusing for me.
    to be more specific, i asked about SEXUAL ORIENTATION (homosexuality) in relation to sin....

    because as wat iv learned in my Reed classes... HOMOSEXUALITY is not a sin. homosexuality becomes a sin because of our actions - the act of sodomy - according to the Bible. but again, let us not based our laws to the Bible.

  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by etienne View Post

    i thot only the NAZIS viewed gay as abnormal, i cant believe there are still people who are like the nazis nowadays.
    I very much agree with you...

    I started this thread thinking that people in this forum is educated enough to see beyond sexual preference and beyond religious boundaries... AND look the the person that they are... whether they are gays, lesbians or whatever in between...

    This boils downt to actually..

    "IT DOESNT MEANT THAT A PERSON DOES NOT THINK LIKE YOU - IT WILL MAKE HIM AUTOMATICALLY WRONG OR EVIL"

    @springbok

    your not gay, so youre not in position to say that they have a choice, got it!? ...

    I'll ask you this... can you control yourself of not being aroused if you were to see a hot naked model teasing you? If your a NORMAL guy... you're dick would be hard enough to lift a car...

    if youre dick is carressed with the hottest girl you can imagine... CAN YOU CHOOSE not to get it hard?... I hope this opens your mind that in reality, what turns you "ON" isnt really a choice... its embedded in your DNA... put to it... "Getting your dick hard is not a choice, its RESPOND"

    in prerspective... what turns these People "ON", this homosexuals, is not a choice but a response.. they dont have a choice, its just it... and unless they are killling/hurting someone to have theyre pleasure, then leave them be...

    and please drop the bible laws and qoutes. that's the reason I stopped believing in religion and the bible, too many laws that are inconsistent...

    In reality, you dont follow all the rules in the bible, you just pick the ones you think would fit in our present time... I can give you Laws in the bible that promotes.... SLAVERY, NO RESPECT FOR WOMEN RIGHTS, ALLOWS SELLING OF YOUR DAUGHTERS AND KILLING OFF DISBELIEVERS...

    but then again, as christians are... they usually tiptoe theyre way out, making excuses that it was an old law, abolished or whatever ... but didnt the bible just claimed itself as perfect and the law stands forever?..

    ...and by claiming "Perfect", it means that its perfect, youre not suppose to change, abolish or redefine somethign perfect... WHY?.. coz that it means it wasnt perfect the first time, thats why it was changed... but it just claimed it was perfect the first time!.... arggghhh.... stop it already, im getting confused...

    ... no wait! maybe thats the church's strategy? .. confuse them so they give up thinking for themselves and they just rely on us(church) to do the thinking for them.. by then we have control of theyre minds! WOOT nice plan! I LIKE IT!

    by the words of Napeloen Bonaparte

    "Religion to the common is considered as the truth, to the wise as false, to the LEADERS as USEFUL"

    /amen

  9. #249
    Hala, na anti-gay nman nuon ni na thread. I think somebody pointed out na maybe domestic partnership lang sah. I think gay people can start with that. Church weddings are not going to happen in a loooong time.

  10. #250
    bitaw di sad ko ganahan...but nahan ko ni laagan...hehehe

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