Second Look on Islam

[Malic]

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@malic

asalam alaikum sadiq,
sir, what are your personal thoughts about sufism?

alaykum wa salaam sadiq,


sir, there are good sufis by good i mean they have a very tight grip on their understanding about the Qur'an and The Sunnah. However, there are also bad sufis by bad i mean they are mixing mysticism and magic in thjeir rituals. Some gave more importance of other figures beside The Prophet(pbuh).

I know someone and he is a very good preacher of Islam,some say that he is a sunni sufi, i dont know if thats possible, i dont have a fiqh and fatwa for that.

let me introduce you to him his name is Sheik Hamsa Yusuf...check him...YouTube - Changing The Tide / Islam in America / Hamza Yusuf

[dondoy_sa_barrio]

Islamic countries have their own laws and we should respect that. If they dont want christians churches then wala tay mahimo.

They have a different way of governing their country. Communist countries as far as know dont allow any religion in their land.

As if there is separation between church (ah, ok, mosque) and state in Islam. In reality, Islam commands that it's sharia be written into laws by the state.

Therefore, those Islamic countries that prohibit other religions than Islam, are only obeying Islam's commandments of religious intolerance.

Muslims, like Malic, preach religious tolerance when they are the minority. But in areas where the duped outnumbers the right-thinking, Muslims are as intolerant as canines in their turf.

Here is the link (Abrogated Verses in the Koran) to an article related to this topic but here is the entire article for those who don't want to be taken to that page:

Abrogated Verses in the Koran

"Let there be no compulsion in religion; truth stands out clear from error" (Sura 2.256).

Apologists for Islam often quote this verse, and most Westerners, unfamiliar with the Koran and imagining that it must obey the same theological logic as the Christian Bible, assume that Islamic scripture mandates religious toleration toward non-Muslims. That assumption is inaccurate.

The Koran includes many abrogated verses, called mansukh, and abrogating verses, nasikh; the latter cancel the former, rendering them invalid, though they nevertheless remain in the Koran and are deceptively quoted, for Western consumption, as though they still represented genuine Islamic beliefs. Nasikh and mansukh are legion: Of the Koran's 114 suras (chapters), only 43 are without abrogated or abrogating verses. That is naturally surprising, and so unexpected that few Westerners are aware that significant segments of the Koran have been theologically annulled. Mohammed's non-Muslim contemporaries were just as surprised.

How does one know, when two verses are contradictory, which is abrogated and which is abrogating? It is a question of date: Later texts abrogate earlier texts whenever there are inconsistencies between them. The Koranic verses that teach tolerance and peace, in particular those that prohibit compulsion in religion, are among the earliest of Mohammed's many revelations and are thus liable to abrogation, whenever Allah felt the inclination to revoke his immutable word. Although Islam, unlike Judaism and Christianity, received its revelation from a single person within a short period of time, roughly twenty years, Mohammed was nonetheless able to impose upon his followers the implausible belief that the inerrant Muslim God had routinely changed his mind.

The pacific, tolerant message of Sura 2.256 reflects the historical circumstances of its composition. Islam was still then decidedly a minority faith and Mohammed and his small band of followers, in Medina and surrounded by non-Muslim enemies, were threatened with destruction. The early Koran of necessity presented religious tolerance as a divine command because nascent Islam had not yet acquired the physical power to compel conversion: "The Apostle had not been given permission to fight or allowed to shed blood ... he had simply been ordered to call men to God, endure insult, and forgive the ignorant" (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah).

Tolerant Muslim But when Islam became powerful, Allah's eternal message changed. Islam could now "call people by the sword" -- that is, compel conversion -- and accordingly "verses of the sword" were conveniently revealed to the Prophet, verses that sanction and indeed command conversion of the Infidel by armed violence, which historically would be Islam's preferred method. Sura 2.256 was thus abrogated by a later verse, composed after Mohammed had begun to prepare his new Muslim empire for Jihad against the non-Muslim world: "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush" (Sura 9.5). This "verse of the sword" not only abrogates 2.256, but also abrogates well over a hundred earlier verses that formerly taught peace and tolerance toward non-believers.

Only the later, abrogating verse now represents authentic Muslim teaching.

[dondoy_sa_barrio]

To understand the mindset of Allah, er, Muhammad, take a look at this link (http://www.faithfreedom.org/book.htm) or read that below:



"Since September 11, 2001, there have been over 11,000 terrorist attacks, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians and a lot more injuries, throughout the world. The perpetrators of these attacks were not monsters; they were Muslims. They were pious people who believed and acted in accordance with their faith. There are millions more who think like them and are ready to do the same.

If you think Islamic terrorism is a new phenomenon, think again. Islam owes its success to terrorism. The prophet of Islam boasted, “I have been made victorious with terror". [Bukhari: 4.52. 220] Since the day Muhammad set foot in Medina, he started his campaign of terror. His followers have been doing the same ever since.

Muslims are intolerant, supremacist, bullies, and violent. They are highly inflammable and can explode if they are not treated preferentially and with respect. At the same time, they abuse others and violate the rights of people of other faiths. This is psychopathology.

To understand Muslims, one must understand their prophet. Muslims worship and emulate Muhammad. Islam is Muhammadanism. Only by understanding him can one know what makes them tick.

Understanding Muhammad is a psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet. It seeks to unveil the mystery of that man. Historians tell us Muhammad used to withdraw to a cave, spending days wrapped in his thoughts. He heard bells ringing and had ghostly visions. He thought he was demon possessed, until his wife reassured him he had become a prophet. Convinced of his status, he was intolerant of those who rejected him, assassinated those who criticized him, raided, looted, and massacred entire populations. He reduced thousands to slavery, raped, and allowed his men to rape female captives. All of this, he did with a clear conscience and a sense of entitlement.

He was magnanimous toward those who admired him, but vengeful toward those who did not. He believed he was the most perfect human creation and the universe's raison d'être. Muhammad was no ordinary man. He was a narcissist.

Understanding Muhammad, ventures beyond the stories. Focusing on the "why" rather than the "what," it unravels the mystique of one of the most enigmatic and influential men in history.

Muhammad believed in his own cause. He was so certain of the reality of his hallucinations that he expected everyone to believe too. He would make his Allah indignantly ask “What! Do you then dispute with him [Muhammad] as to what he saw?” (Q.53:12) This is psychopathology. Why should others believe in what he saw? Wasn't it up to him to prove what he saw was real? Only a narcissist expects others to believe in his claims without asking for evidence.

Muhammad was an orphan. Spurned by his mother in his infancy and left in the care of a Bedouin couple, he had a loveless childhood. He then passed to the care of his grandfather and uncle who took pity on him and spoiled him. Not receiving love at a time he needed unconditional love and not receiving discipline when he needed to learn about boundaries, he developed narcissistic personality disorder, a trait that made him a megalomaniac bereft of conscience. He fantasized about unlimited power, expected praise and admiration, believed he was special, and expected others to believe him and go along with his ideas and plans. He took advantage of others, was jealous, yet believed others were jealous of him, and was extremely hurt when rejected, even killing those who deserted him. He lied and deceived, feeling entitled and justified in doing so. All these are traits of narcissistic personality disorder.

Thanks to another mental illness, temporal lobe epilepsy, the prophet of Islam had vivid hallucinations he interpreted as mystical and divine intimations. When he claimed he heard voices, saw angels and other ghostly entities, he was not lying. His problem was that he could not distinguish reality from fantasy.
He also suffered from obsessive compulsive disorder, causing his fixations on numbers, rituals and stringent rules. This explains why he lived such an austere life and why his religion is filled with so many absurd rules.




Normal Footprint Muhammad had fleshy and swelled hands and feet. His footprint shows he had acromegaly.

In the later years of his life Muhammad was affected by acromegaly, a disease caused by excessive production of a growth hormone, resulting in large bones, cold and fleshy hands and feet and coarse facial features such as enlarged lips, nose and tongue. Acromegaly occurs after the age of 40 and usually kills the patient in his early 60s. It causes impotence, while it increases libido. This explains Muhammad's sexual vagaries in his old age and why in the later years of his life he had such an insatiable craving for ***. He would visit all his 9 wives in one night to touch and fondle them, without being satisfied. His impotence explains his insecurity, paranoia, and intense jealousy of his young wives. He ordered them to cover themselves, lest other men would cast a lusting eye on them. Today, half a billion Muslim women veil themselves, because Muhammad was impotent. Muhammad's illnesses explain a lot of mysteries of Islam.

The combination of all these psychological disorders and his unusual physiognomy made Muhammad a phenomenon that set him apart from ordinary people. His uneducated followers interpreted his differences as signs of his prophethood. Like devotees of all cults, they rose to champion his cause with dedication. By defying death and butchering others they made Islam the world's second largest religion, now the biggest threat to world peace and the survival of human civilization.

Why is it important to know Muhammad? Because over a billion people try to be like him and do as he did. Consequently, the insanity of one man is bequeathed to all his followers. It is by understanding him that we can see through them, and be able to predict these unpredictable people.

We live in a dangerous time. When a fifth of humanity worships a psychopath, eulogizes suicide bombing and thinks killing and martyrdom are ultimate acts of piety, the world becomes a dangerous place. When these people acquire the atomic bomb, the earth becomes a powder keg.
Islam is a cult. It is time for mankind to wake up and realize that this cult is a threat to mankind and there can be no co-existence with Muslims. As long as Muslims believe in Muhammad, they are a threat to others and to themselves. Muslims must either leave Islam, leave their culture of hate and join the rest of mankind as fellow humans, or non-Muslims must separate themselves from them, ban Islam, end the immigration of Muslims and send home those who plot against democracy and refuse to integrate.

Islam is incompatible with democracy. It is a warring creed that uses democracy to destroy it and to establish itself as a world wide dictatorship. The only way to avert the clash between this barbarity and civilization, a world disaster, is to expose the fallacy of Islam and demystify it. Muslims must be weaned from Islam for humanity to live in peace.

Understanding Muhammad is imperative for both Muslims and non-Muslims. This book makes that task easy.

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Ali Sina is the author of Understanding Muhammad: A psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet [ISBN: 978-0980994803]. He is the founder of faithfreedom.org, the organ of the movement of ex-Muslims that tries to unveil the truth about Islam to the world and help Muslims leave it, abandon their culture of hate and join mankind in amity."
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[akera]

ambot kung na ask na bani dre nga thread pero mu ask lng jud ko... why man ok sa muslim ilang mga laki ang ma-asawa ky christian pero bawal ang ilang mga bae mu-bana ug christian?

[dondoy_sa_barrio]

ambot kung na ask na bani dre nga thread pero mu ask lng jud ko... why man ok sa muslim ilang mga laki ang ma-asawa ky christian pero bawal ang ilang mga bae mu-bana ug christian?

Muslims are zealous in "protecting" their women. Nah.

Truth is, pareha ra na sa usa ka laki nga naay igsoong babaye. Mangigi.

However, mas grabe ni ang ila kay they want to convert the non-Muslim wife but they don't want the Muslim girl to be converted to another religion. That's what is called apostasy. Kanang mobalhin ka ug relihiyon.

Sa Islam, ang punishment sa apostasy kay death. So dangerous kaayo for a muslim woman to marry a non-muslim.

Besides, muslims are so fixated with carnal things that's why they zealously guard their women. Here is a quote, but you can read the entire article at http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles...t_virgins.htm:

"Modern apologists of Islam try to downplay the evident materialism and sexual implications of such descriptions, but, as the Encyclopaedia of Islam says, even orthodox Muslim theologians such as al Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and Al-Ash'ari (died 935 CE) have "admitted sensual pleasures into paradise". The sensual pleasures are graphically elaborated by Al-Suyuti (died 1505 ), Koranic commentator and polymath. He wrote: "Each time we sleep with a houri we find her virgin. Besides, the ***** of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [ie Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetising vaginas."

[akera]

di mnpud siguro cla sugot bisag magpaconvert ang laki to islam...

[Existanz]

Malic..was that the gatekeeper of fire (Hell)?

[battouter]

Islamic countries have their own laws and we should respect that. If they dont want christians churches then wala tay mahimo.

They have a different way of governing their country. Communist countries as far as know dont allow any religion in their land.

prejudiced like communists?

[Malic]

prejudiced like communists?

The point sir is they have their OWN way of governing their affairs. But pls dont overlook those countries where Islam is its mother religion, yet allows any religion to flourish.

and i dont know how many times must i tell this, not all muslims agree on what other islamic states are practising such as banning the preaching of other religion.

Ang problema man gud ninyo is mo focus mo sa sayup sa osa ka group nga muslim nya inyo e generalize tanan, ka gagmay ug utok oi.

[Malic]

ambot kung na ask na bani dre nga thread pero mu ask lng jud ko... why man ok sa muslim ilang mga laki ang ma-asawa ky christian pero bawal ang ilang mga bae mu-bana ug christian?

sir, why do christian fast during holy week? why do fundamentalists christians are encourage not to marry catholics and other women from other religion?

tubaga na sir then makasabot ka kung nganu gi bawal pod na sa ISLAM.