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  1. #91

    we want all people to know Jesus ........that's why i insisted in what i believe is true!!!!

  2. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by iczyes View Post
    the problem really is...no one knows and could say what is truth
    since reality is relative to each one's perceptions
    even with an open mind, as long as we see ourselves a seprate indivudual with others
    differences will always be imminent...conflicts will still be there.
    even the reality of peace is relative to each one's beliefs
    and may be considered as illusion to others
    so what's truth for me? is something that i have experienced and understood
    that which no one can take away
    however,not disregarding others' relative truths as well
    like what St. Agustine said, our minds are just a small vessel that could only contain
    a fraction of sand of the entire "beach" of knowledge..
    namaste!
    well yes i understand. but going with your argument, even st. augustine could be right or could be wrong. it doesnt matter Right? but the question is, if there is no general/universal Truth, why are we able to discern things, why is there order, why is it that we could some predict phenomena? Why is it we could create things, if everything is in flux, change, truth relative, then why is there something that remains permanent in which we build Human Civilization from its buildings to its sciences? If Truth is relative, how is this communication even possible?

    cheers.

  3. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    well yes i understand. but going with your argument, even st. augustine could be right or could be wrong. it doesnt matter Right? but the question is, if there is no general/universal Truth, why are we able to discern things, why is there order, why is it that we could some predict phenomena? Why is it we could create things, if everything is in flux, change, truth relative, then why is there something that remains permanent in which we build Human Civilization from its buildings to its sciences? If Truth is relative, how is this communication even possible?

    cheers.
    I agree, it doesn't matter whose right or wrong...

    I want to believe that there's an absolute truth...i really do
    however, when one zeroes in one possibility...all other possibilities will be lost
    just like the blind men...one blind person holding the elephant's tusk
    will insist that the elephant is like a big hard smooth bone...
    we loose the possibility that it can be also a fan, a snake, a large trunk...
    when in actuallity...it is all one big combination of everything...

    can any mortal could even comprehend that is which absolute?
    Does Jesus say that which is absolute? I hope so
    as well as what Mohammad, Gandhi, Buddha, Swamis, Gurus, Maharaja Mei Ling, boddhisatvas, etc.
    when we mix everything that they say and peel off dogmas, practices, traditions
    there is only one message...LOVE...of oneself, of others, of God
    is love absolute? I hope so...how can one say when it can never even be measured
    nor can it be defined...all I know is..it is an energy form that can create
    when i define it as energy, i am also taking out the possibility that it can be something else..sigh!
    really, reality and truth is just one big blur.
    when one has been depending on rationality all these years
    it's quite depressing to know that some things are really irrational. (heavy sigh)

    the physical reality...
    all i know is..there is consensual reality...a reality that all people may agree upon
    such are the things which are observed in the physical realm
    that which is observed by the physical senses
    when we go outside the atmospheric and gravitational field of earth
    does this truth apply? no...we even age less outer space than here...
    so lalo na siguro when we go beyond our own galaxy...beyond the next universe
    our physical reality is just a speck of dusk among the immense and vastness of space
    sigh again... now i wonder if even our reality matter to anybody than ourselves.

    thanks The_child for this discussion
    im just expressing ha...sometimes nakakapagod din talaga magseek ng truth
    so im at the point of letting things be and just experience as much as one can...
    namaste!

  4. #94
    mutuo ko ug unicorn... i insist what i believe is true

  5. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by dhongskee View Post
    we want all people to know Jesus ........that's why i insisted in what i believe is true!!!!
    You don't need to that actually. People by their very nature will eventually end up searching for something that will negate the sad reality of their end. They choose what to believe and fashion their lives out of it.

    How can you insist on something to be true when you accept it only by faith? Is not faith nothing more than the thought of hoping for something?

  6. #96
    OT:
    Quote Originally Posted by iczyes View Post
    I agree, it doesn't matter whose right or wrong...

    I want to believe that there's an absolute truth...i really do
    however, when one zeroes in one possibility...all other possibilities will be lost
    just like the blind men...one blind person holding the elephant's tusk
    will insist that the elephant is like a big hard smooth bone...
    we loose the possibility that it can be also a fan, a snake, a large trunk...
    when in actuallity...it is all one big combination of everything...

    can any mortal could even comprehend that is which absolute?
    Does Jesus say that which is absolute? I hope so
    as well as what Mohammad, Gandhi, Buddha, Swamis, Gurus, Maharaja Mei Ling, boddhisatvas, etc.
    when we mix everything that they say and peel off dogmas, practices, traditions
    there is only one message...LOVE...of oneself, of others, of God
    is love absolute? I hope so...how can one say when it can never even be measured
    nor can it be defined...all I know is..it is an energy form that can create
    when i define it as energy, i am also taking out the possibility that it can be something else..sigh!
    really, reality and truth is just one big blur.
    when one has been depending on rationality all these years
    it's quite depressing to know that some things are really irrational. (heavy sigh)

    the physical reality...
    all i know is..there is consensual reality...a reality that all people may agree upon
    such are the things which are observed in the physical realm
    that which is observed by the physical senses
    when we go outside the atmospheric and gravitational field of earth
    does this truth apply? no...we even age less outer space than here...
    so lalo na siguro when we go beyond our own galaxy...beyond the next universe
    our physical reality is just a speck of dusk among the immense and vastness of space
    sigh again... now i wonder if even our reality matter to anybody than ourselves.

    thanks The_child for this discussion
    im just expressing ha...sometimes nakakapagod din talaga magseek ng truth
    so im at the point of letting things be and just experience as much as one can...
    namaste!
    nagrereklamo ka nga nakakapagod e tingnan mo lang kaya mga posts mo di naman ganun ka taas. hehe. Cheeers!

  7. #97
    naay uban tawo nga taas ug pride. mau na sila

  8. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    OT:


    nagrereklamo ka nga nakakapagod e tingnan mo lang kaya mga posts mo di naman ganun ka taas. hehe. Cheeers!
    the length of words expressed in my posts are just a centimeter of the journey...
    ur comment is still sarcastic even if trying to be funny...although well taken
    obvious ba ko masyadong enthusiastic ako magshare? hehehe
    kase gusto ko ipass sa iba ang natutunan ko, wala namang masama dun dibah?
    it's energy exchange...you give some and gain some...
    ang nakakapagod dito ung mga EGO-ic people who cant handle it.
    nakakaubos ng energy ipoint out palagi na ang issue dito ay ung "thought"...outside the egos
    namaste!

  9. #99
    reviving the thread kay ning balik naman pud ang mga taong hilig ani. hihihihi

  10. #100
    gi up up lang ko....lingaw ko sa mga ideas sa mga tao deri hehe...

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