INTEL = CHICKEN?

[ninzska21]

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hmm.. fudzilla is credible for me..

theinquirer isnt thou...

[Kenshiro]

Even if its credible its not significant. So it don't matter if its credible or not.
for average consumers who are still gonna buy Intel and the performance should still be on Intels side. So big deal.

[ninzska21]

yeah... u got a point.

but in some matters it is still important to have techy news..

[Kenshiro]

Only benchmarks and reviews matter to me.

[ninzska21]

hell yeah..

but some benchy are not credible.. i have seen alot of fake benchy..

and other cheats..

Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=2777&Itemid=1



and another one

Nvidia PhysX driver changes some DLL files files within 3DMark Vantage and overwrites them with new versions. These versions cause your PPU to stop working, but will offload work to the GPU if you have a PhysX capable graphics card like GF9/GTX 200. When you install a Radeon you can't get your PPU back to work since NV overwrote the original DLLs.

rather great to see a full review of a product.

[cosplay]

hell yeah..

but some benchy are not credible.. i have seen alot of fake benchy..

and other cheats..

Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers

Fudzilla - Nvidia cheats in HD HQV test



and another one

Nvidia PhysX driver changes some DLL files files within 3DMark Vantage and overwrites them with new versions. These versions cause your PPU to stop working, but will offload work to the GPU if you have a PhysX capable graphics card like GF9/GTX 200. When you install a Radeon you can't get your PPU back to work since NV overwrote the original DLLs.

rather great to see a full review of a product.

In this case, you'd have to reinstall the drivers for ATI then...

[butitoy]

Why would they make dual core 65nm Phenom when they already have a very good performance and energy efficient dual core Brisbane cores.

And big deal with the 6ghz. Any E8000 series and even an E6600 series can clock that high.

upgrade sir...hoping to make cash out of the efficient cores...except that it has TLB bugs..

sayang na architecture..wasn't that polished when introduced...


as for me..my opinion alone..its a sign of desperation..

having to introduce...just for the heck of ...._________..

[butitoy]

>>>> They didn't skip 65nm. As evident in their Brisbane cores.
**** yes sir..i adored the EE versions..kinda cheap and gud performing second rates..i install this part to most of my budget conscious clients.

>>>> AMD is not like Intels Architechture, AMD uses true quadcore for their Phenom processors that is why Phenom dual cores are not feasible and cannot or requires too much resources to be converted to dual cores.
*** not to sure of this sir...

>>>> Plus AMD already have a very good performing Dual cores energy and low consumer performance wise which are the x2 5000+ BE and the like and agian they are 65nm.
*** energy efficiency...yes to that sir...performance..amd is just second rate

>>>> Intel Quad cores are two dual cores packed together that is why they can produce dual cores with the same cores as the quad cores. Unlike AMDs Phenom.
*** i hope that re-iterate ur answer at the top ^^^and to add sir..though intel core quads are just slammed 2 dual core..it just surprising performs way much faster than the supposedly better architecture of real quad phenom...u know what had happened to that architecture sir?

>>>> And an avarage user doesn't know how to clock the E8600 to 6ghz. So it really doesn't makes sense in terms for the average user.
**** but hopefully knows how to use google.com sir.. where they make download overclocking software.

>>>> Who knows Intel might be quite for a surprise when AMD introduces the 32nm process.
**** maybe yes sir..but as for now..45nm NEHALEM is about to bloom..it just trampled all benchies at 2.93GHz by the Core 2 Extreme QX6800 and the QuadFX Athlon FX-74 3 GHz..Nehalem is still faster than the fastest Penom 9950 BE by 28 percent.a running poulson 32nm chip is already rumored, which they say is 25% - 38% faster than NEHALEM..

>>>> and also wait until applications and games takes advantage of the full quad processors. Maybe the E8600 might be a pawn for AMD Phenoms.
**** a lot of applications are already taking advantage of the quads sir..though not for average user..anyone using scientific applications for earning ur bacon? gud if u are...pa tudlo ko.

>>>> All you yank about are 45nm and those stuff are the fastest. The point is there is also 32nm.
Well not necessarily the smaller the die size the faster the processors though they can just put on more cache in it and runs cooler and has more OC headroom.
**** right again sir. intel also have a running chip of this lithography..an E S version..

[carmicael]

Intel already has a 32nm die shrink prototype as a successor to Nehalem. WESTMERE

Yes, intel's quads are technically 2 dual core dies on a single package. But hey, when will the TRUE quad core phenoms outpace this so called

not really a good tactic

?

So, anyone here would like to say that a current Phenom X4 can outpace a Yorkfield clock-per-clock at the same speed (or even a Kentsfield, for that matter...)?

With Nehalem, intel is doing to itself what it did to AMD back in 2006. It would literally steal the performance crown from itself.

[graveyard666]

@mods, pls. change the title cuz the relevant topics are not fitted on the title.

yeah, INTEL QUADS are just 2 dual-cores performing in a single die. I think the through Quad Core for AMD needs more out to perform each cores to outpace with INTELS.

Glory days of AMD was way before 2006. It's just a wheel of fortune. Guess who's on the top and who's on the bottom. At least AMD can't be even at performance on each releases of INTEL and cut-out the price ranges. At least consumers will go after at AMD for pocket-wise purchased.