is it necesary to have fraternities or sororities?? why?

[skadiboy]

Fraternities are supposedly an avenue wherein a group of people can share some real common interests and at the same time help each other grow in such field (this what makes fraternities different from common groups or organizations) or better yet if possible in all aspects as well. Sad to say, it has started to drift the other way now. Fraternities == "Gangs".

Allow me to give out my personal opinion why I joined a fraternity. I never joined a fraternity just to have some alumni brods or sis who are working and are holding high or at least good positions in some major companies. I joined because of the group's ideologies. I reviewed it's aims, tried to know the members carefully before joining and of course, dug a little deeper about the group's background. True enough maybe in the long run having some brods and sis might be an advantage to me but heck I really don't care about it.

This might hold true to some or if not most but as what I have said in my previous post, don't generalize.

Regarding the physical pain (hazing part). I admit, it's kinda twisted and is something that should be eradicated.

agree dyud ko ani,,..., kong imo g sudlan frat frat lang aw wala dyud ka...

[skadiboy]

bawt sa 2 ka frat nga pirme ma news, dili jud tanan polos mga bogoy or hilabtanon, naa man gani ko 2 kaclasmet sa una sa usc-tc, karibal sila frat pero amigo kaayo sila. pirmi gud uban ug inom, hahaha.

usa sad, ang IFSC sa usc-tc mao sad naka bonding sa mga frats.


ako dili ko fratman.daghan ayo ko mga migo nga fratman.pero polos bootan ug maayo sa clase. mao nga dili nato na sila e judge pareha tanan. kay managlahi mana sila.
baw.!

i also encounter like this... all of my friends before are members of this two groups... barkada ra dyud kay mismo ang ECE batch 2006 are mix with this two fraternities.... and also the batch of 2007..akong mga barkada mangaligo me poro naay ritual sa duha ka grops pero wala ra dyud lingaw ang nag pababaw....

nya wala may magobot kong kahibaw mo lugar..,... depende ra dyud na sa member kong mag hinambog sya kay kong mga ingon ana gani aw magpalaban man dayun maangil raman nang uban gud... daghan man sad gagmay utok.. d na malikayan....

peace

[rigormortis]

kuyawa gyud aning skadiboy oh!
dungan diay mog ligo nila skadiboy?

[rodsky]

Please understand that I'm not totally against organizations that foster brotherhood and camaraderie. I myself started groups before, in the hopes of gathering like-minded people together for mutual benefit. However, yes, like what has been mentioned in the last few posts, murag nag metamorphose na man gud ang meaning and ideals sa usa ka brotherhood, into sick and twisted concepts, to the point nga isacrifice dyud ang decorum and delicadeza just for the sake of brotherhood, which for me is totally wrong.

I know, fratmen who read this thread will be thinking "Tsk tsk tsk, this Rodsky doesn't know what he's talking about because he's not into fraternities." That may be true, but for the record I want to state the fact that I belong to the 2nd Batch ('8 of the UP Special Forces Cadet group program, and I've experienced hell far worse during training and "hell week" than what most fraternities offer during their "brotherhood rites" and I've got the stitches to prove it. But that was different--that was military training and science, so it logically follows that violence was a necessary part of our training, because war is indeed violent. But if you were to translate that into civilian terms, does this mean that fratmen want to turn their schools and neighborhoods into battlegrounds? Shakes head.

-RODION

[smurky]

kinsa ninyo diri ang members sa any frat or sorro group?

[Goose]

wala juy ayo. puros pabikil lang. source ra sa mga away...

[cosplay]

Please understand that I'm not totally against organizations that foster brotherhood and camaraderie. I myself started groups before, in the hopes of gathering like-minded people together for mutual benefit. However, yes, like what has been mentioned in the last few posts, murag nag metamorphose na man gud ang meaning and ideals sa usa ka brotherhood, into sick and twisted concepts, to the point nga isacrifice dyud ang decorum and delicadeza just for the sake of brotherhood, which for me is totally wrong.

I know, fratmen who read this thread will be thinking "Tsk tsk tsk, this Rodsky doesn't know what he's talking about because he's not into fraternities." That may be true, but for the record I want to state the fact that I belong to the 2nd Batch ('8 of the UP Special Forces Cadet group program, and I've experienced hell far worse during training and "hell week" than what most fraternities offer during their "brotherhood rites" and I've got the stitches to prove it. But that was different--that was military training and science, so it logically follows that violence was a necessary part of our training, because war is indeed violent. But if you were to translate that into civilian terms, does this mean that fratmen want to turn their schools and neighborhoods into battlegrounds? Shakes head.

-RODION

Nice take, Rod.. but I don't think that logic follows that these fratmen want to turn their civilian nature into battle. No one likes battle. No one likes to have war. These groups are not to be compared to military training since there is a vast difference in their objectives and goals. Even, though I am not a fraternity or sorority member myself, I would say that defending the country as like the military isn't their topmost priority. Nuclear and devastating weapons are not in any possession of these individuals. Military training is indeed such a great ideal that every soldier needs to pass. It is a man-made ordeal to prepare people to become legitimate fighters to become pawns and defenses of war, thinking about different tactics and making the most out of what they have.

[rodsky]

Nice take, Rod.. but I don't think that logic follows that these fratmen want to turn their civilian nature into battle. No one likes battle. No one likes to have war. These groups are not to be compared to military training since there is a vast difference in their objectives and goals. Even, though I am not a fraternity or sorority member myself, I would say that defending the country as like the military isn't their topmost priority. Nuclear and devastating weapons are not in any possession of these individuals. Military training is indeed such a great ideal that every soldier needs to pass. It is a man-made ordeal to prepare people to become legitimate fighters to become pawns and defenses of war, thinking about different tactics and making the most out of what they have.

You took my post too literally bro. What I meant was, and this also refers to my first post in this thread, nga the workplace and the neighborhood has become like battlegrounds in the sense that some of these organizations seem to want to create the impression that, if you do not take sides, and if you don't belong to this group or that, you're essentially kaput. Heck ako gani, wala ko'y close friends, wala ko'y barkada, dili ko tig-laag, dili ko tig-inom-inom. I live alone and I want to be alone...yet I am still alive. Sometimes it's ok to stick it out on your own--you will understand the world better from your quiet little corner, rather than be influenced by the mindless mob once you get into the throng.

-RODION

[catch]

Attach yourself with Istorya's programs and activities, and there's no need to be part of a fraternity (or sorority) groups. I was once part of a fraternity group and we serve our community for the love of God

[The_Child]

not necessarily. Remind us of Freud. The need to submit oneself to an entity, in this case Orgs, that would take the feeling of responsibility, freedom and guilt, from the individual. It is rooted in Incest which is rooted in the Oedipus Complex. Im not the one who said that, its freud. Mao nay essence of Brotherhood and Sisterhood, because being the challenge of being oneself, a true and free individual, who is responsible for himself, for his action, who have to deal with the burden of being Free is too much to bear. thats from Eric Fromm. Im just echoing what they said.