Essential lens for a DSLR noob

[markyap]

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another up for the 24-105. i've used it before and it is probably one of the best walkaround lenses for canon. most people i know usually go through this trend: kit>50mm1.8f>28-135>then usually 70-200 2.8 or 4f (for zoom fanatics) and/or 24-70 or 24-105. skip a few pages, go straight for the L. of course, money is the limiting factor. there are a lot of relatively okay sigma lenses that have good range, pero layo ra gyud cya kontra canon L in terms of image quality. for macro, i think the 85mm 1.8/f is a very good lens for this purpose, considering its price (there are lenses specifically designed for macro, but i'll stick with the 85 1.8f).

but as what most seasoned photographers will tell you, it is always the person behind the camera that makes the biggest difference. we learned this lesson in rocky 4 (dolph lundgren vs. rocky balboa/brawn vs. heart)... lol

85mm 1.8 is lousy at macro...minimum focusing distance is very far to be a useful macro lens...
now 100 2.8 macro is a whole different thing... try it

yes i have both lenses and try as i might with 85 1.8, it just cant get there...example try framing and focusing just the face of a baby with the 85 1.8...with a full frame camera not possible...
even for crop bodies with 85 1.8 i think that would be very hard to achieve if at all possible...
but for sure framing a closeup of the just the eyes is not possible with the 85 1.8 with any canon EOS.

[ditch_azeroth]

that's true mark - i can only wish makatilaw ta ug 100. it's not a common lens that you'll find here in cebu - i've only seen pictures of it. lol. but i'm sure we both agree on the 24-105, and what it can do. these days, people think na faster aperture=better >>> this is not always the case.

off topic lang gamay - have you ever held a nikon d3? grabeha sad ug maximum boost sa iso woi. i know it will be all noisy and crap, pero push comes to shove, that is a useful boost when the situation calls for it. amazing.

[markyap]

off topic lang gamay - have you ever held a nikon d3? grabeha sad ug maximum boost sa iso woi. i know it will be all noisy and crap, pero push comes to shove, that is a useful boost when the situation calls for it. amazing.

yes im tried the d3 and owned the d300...two of the biggest buzz about the two new nikon is the iso and lcd resolution but side by side with canon, they arent all that spectacular really.
...it just sounds super and looks great on paper...


Nikon D3, D300 and Canon 5D Sharpness Comparison
"I see the 5D as the clear winner."
"Adding "Smart Sharpen" in Photoshop helps the Nikon files look almost as good as the 5D."

NIKON D3 / D300 ET ASTRONOMIE
"The high ISO sensitivity displayed by Nikon is for the marketing"
"It is tragic to see that Nikon solved the problem of thermal signal by a digital processing of the RAW files "

nikon doesnt have true RAW captures...it actually processes the images before saving it to RAW.
thats cheating in my book...RAW should be unprocessed right?
in some situations it works to get better pictures but in others you get inaccurate details...

its really pros and cons...i know d3 and d300 does offer some things canon can't match but it comes down to what you need. if iso boost lang, maybe half a stop better at extreme iso but for me thats not very impressive...

what impresses me more is the 40D at 1/3rd the price does a better job at focusing in lowlight and low contrast images (despite all the focus points d3 has on paper, it hunts a lot). much better faint light imagery like astrophotography. better live view implementation and produce sharper images

[ditch_azeroth]

sus, tell me about it mark. i am so itching to get a 40d. lisod na gyud ni na wala na ta sa balay... wek. 40d+24-105, that 100mm, and maybe 2 580ex II's --- solved na ko. wek. mopalit lang ko ug katong 2x extender for zoom shots. a boy can dream.

[muzikfreakah]

Very Sorry for the late reply, na busy gyud ko. Mag I have decided to take quick lessons when I have the time na before I buy any other lens usa para I will know what I really need.

[markyap]

sus, tell me about it mark. i am so itching to get a 40d. lisod na gyud ni na wala na ta sa balay... wek. 40d+24-105, that 100mm, and maybe 2 580ex II's --- solved na ko. wek. mopalit lang ko ug katong 2x extender for zoom shots. a boy can dream.

ako ana bai 580 paired with 430 nalang ko...sayang man duha ka 580 coz 99.9% of the time you wont need the extra features or the extra power of the 580 and the price difference is quite big. 430 1st ako kuhaon then 580 kung naa na budget for the 2nd flash nya magsigi nalang ko puno 430 or newer

[markyap]

Very Sorry for the late reply, na busy gyud ko. Mag I have decided to take quick lessons when I have the time na before I buy any other lens usa para I will know what I really need.

txt me lang anytime

[muzikfreakah]

You can also get an extension tube set Ryan that you can stack together with your 50mm to allow you to shoot macro.

24-105 f4l is also a great lens.

Naa ka aning tube lens pasuwaya nya ko hehehe?

@mark: cool bro, thanks will let you know!

[markyap]

jeffery has this...
its actually just a tube...no lens...

[potterboy]

OT: aguy, just basing on this thread makes me wanna cross over. hehehe. mura canon na gyud. lolz. hapit na.