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    Quote Originally Posted by the_wandering_slasher View Post
    still u didn't provide me concrete evidence available to my five senses that god really exist. yes we can't see atoms but we know they exist because there are concrete evidences. it's just your own understanding. giving examples but not evidence. NOT SATISFIED WITH YOUR ANSWERS.
    Can't help you there bro.
    I know that you yourself can always prove that God does not exist.
    That is easy because you are proof-oriented thinker.
    But it does not mean that
    just because you don't preceive things with your senses,
    means that thing does not exist.

    Padayon sa imong pagtuo bro.
    Imoha man sad na.
    Anha man ka malipay diha.
    Respetohan tika.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alel View Post
    Or it can also be not a 'who', but 'what' or a 'how'...But I am open, and I am not entirely against the view of supreme beings.

    The thing is that some people dont believe about the god that the religions portray: 'someone' who is/are omnipresent and all-seeing.

    Sir, just a question. I dont mean to be offensive in any way:

    Are you also open? Let us say hypothetical assertions like: That 'God' is a supreme being from somewhere else in the Universe? Or...That 'God' is not someone, but the laws of nature as a whole themselves? Or the assertion that 'God' would refer to the randomization (Totally random. No supreme beings or whatnot.)?


    Alel
    I am always open to all ideas.

    In fact, during one discussion when a forumer asked where does my God live?

    I said, I don't know.

    We could not know.

    Who knows, I said, maybe it is us who are living in God.
    Maybe the universe is God and the stars and galaxies in it is just part of His body.
    Because, there are millions of organisms living even in our body now.
    So, the idea that we are living in God's body, can be right.

    We just have to open our mind to all the possibilities.

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    Thanks Soul Doctor!


    Alel

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    Fairness does not govern life and death, if it were, no good man would ever die young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelfyre View Post
    Fairness does not govern life and death, if it were, no good man would ever die young.
    It is not God that governs life or death.
    We for one are the first ones responsible for our death.
    Nature is the second.
    But nature only reacts to our actions,
    so it is indirectly our fault.
    Third is the Universal Law that God placed in this universe to govern the souls.
    It is like a program that automatically reward and punish souls.
    God does not have to do anything anymore
    because he already placed a program or
    law to govern all these things concerned with souls.

    Take for example, bagyong Frank.
    Extreme climate change is a product of global warming.
    Global warming is caused by us people.
    Natures way of saying we are not in control of this earth.

    In Iloilo they denuded their mountains there.
    They cut all the trees that holds the soil in those hills and mountains.
    So when Frank arrive and rain fell heavy,
    the soil from the hills and mountains have no choice but to slide down..
    It becomes mud, and it clogs the drainage systems.
    This drainage problem results to flood when it rained some more.

    So it is not God who caused the flood.
    It is always indirectly our own fault.

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    got a q, SD: do u equate fairness wid God? sori, i dont totally buy the idea abt us responsible for our deaths. indirectly maybe, to some extent, but not totally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelfyre View Post
    got a q, SD: do u equate fairness wid God? sori, i dont totally buy the idea abt us responsible for our deaths. indirectly maybe, to some extent, but not totally.
    Yes. I think God is fair.
    But in the universal sense of things.

    We assumed kasi that we only live once
    and then we go to heaven or hell
    as what is taught in our respective religions.

    So we limit our views on fairness only to this life and to this world.

    But God has placed on this universe a program.
    a Universal Law of justice.
    This law governs our soul and all the souls in the universe.
    This is designed by God to make sure everybody gets what he deserve.
    Others call it Karma.
    Yes, for me, God is fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelfyre View Post
    got a q, SD: do u equate fairness wid God? sori, i dont totally buy the idea abt us responsible for our deaths. indirectly maybe, to some extent, but not totally.
    And for humans to be responsible.
    We should think that we as people are responsible for whatever is happening in this world
    or for whatever that is happening in our life.

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    sa di pa mo maglalis diha hunahunaa sad ninyo pila kalibo ang ipanganak kada adlaw.



    patas ra na
    Last edited by YJOB; 07-06-2008 at 03:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelfyre View Post
    Fairness does not govern life and death, if it were, no good man would ever die young.
    Fairness you say ma'am. I think by the virtue of the fall of men, we brought both Spiritual and physical death to this life . GOD specifically commanded adam and eve not to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but they disobeyed GOD and dishonor HIS glory.

    and how good can one really gets. to what standard do we delineate good from evil?

    GUILTY, that's what we are.

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