Mga Cebuano proud ba ni Winston Garcia?

[godwhacker]

It doesn't matter to me what the poll result is. Ang importante nako ang discussion because it is the idea that counts most. Just like Jesus Christ, He was never popular in his own hometown of Nazareth. He made a difference in the peoples live in the neighboring Gallilee. And He made a big impact when He entered Jerusalem. Niadtu sigurong panahon if you ask the same question but the subject is Jesus probably you would get the same votes. Ug mangutana sa Nazareth kinsa ang Kristo? Moingon lang mga tawo nga AHhhhh kanang anak sa panday?

Wa ko mag-ingon ha nga Winston is like Jesus Christ. But we don't know what is the aftermath of Winston's current doings.

[cdburgh]

as i've said, yes, it would be likely that majority of istoryans are "not proud". but we have to consider that walay procedure sa sampling nga gihimo. meaning, kad2 rang interesado sa poll ang ningbotar. we also have to consider that not all istoryans would even click Politics and Current events forums and even vote to a topic like this.

how can you say that "likely the majority of the istoryans are not proud of", its very clear that majority of istoryans who have expressed their sentiments are saying that they are not proud of WG. no matter what you believe or justification does not change that fact. you must be blind or pretending to be blind by refusing to accept the facts, maayo pa ang tinuod nga buta makakita sa tinuod.

mao nay giingon, napukaw lagi ka knuhay, pero inom sa ug alka seltzer para mawa imong hangover para tin-aw ang huna2x.

ako nagmata and can see the facts clearly, naay uban, color blind, number blind or plain blind lang gyud.

yup. u can ask any of our moderators here and surely u will get the same answer. "Istorya polls are purely for fun". if im not mistaken, that question has been answered na long before sa laing thread.

wa may diay ka sure. it would benefit the istoryans if you can enlighten us by linking the thread where it says the polls are purely for fun.

[giddyboy]

how can you say that "likely the majority of the istoryans are not proud of", its very clear that majority of istoryans who have expressed their sentiments are saying that they are not proud of WG. no matter what you believe or justification does not change that fact. you must be blind or pretending to be blind by refusing to accept the facts, maayo pa ang tinuod nga buta makakita sa tinuod.

haay. kapoya ning nagmata oi pero galutaw lang gihapon. ako nkakuha ko sa imong pagsabot pero kanang sabota nimo dili pa na mao. ato kunong tagsa tagsa-on ni.

GIVEN:
poll questions - proud, not proud, neutral
sampling procedure - none
scope - all istoryans (supposed to be)

RESULTS:
40 voted not proud
12 voted proud
7 neutral
total 59 voters

ANALYSIS:
of the 59 voters, majority voted "not proud"

significance level (or level of "believability") - no data
margin of error - no data
any further analysis - no data

CONCLUSION:
the data analysis cannot conclude that the poll results is representative of the whole istoryan population, much more with the whole Cebuano population. sa laktod nga istorya, ato2x ra ni. lingaw2x ra ni (in english, ours ours only. purely for fun)

so if u haven't gone thru statistics course, no matter how i explain it in simple terms, di gyud ka kashabot. mao nay saktong giingon nga BLIND.

wa may diay ka sure. it would benefit the istoryans if you can enlighten us by linking the thread where it says the polls are purely for fun.

unsa may walay sure ana? ky "purely for fun" ra ang atoang poll? mao btaw ko niingon nga ato ato ra ni sa mga Politics&Current events istoryans ug dili sa tibuok istoryan population. get the difference?

unya i wl correct myself, dili diay to thread ang explanation nga "purely for fun" ra ang mga poll dre. it was a PM i rcvd from one of our mods very long time ago. and in effect na mentioned nani sa usa ka thread dire. i can't remember exactly but ang poll man cguro toh about AKP/TGP.

to cite an example, yahoo polls r similar to our istorya polls. ky niapil mn gyud ko ato sauna, naa tuy fine print gbutang below sa ilang page, "yahoo polls are purely for fun". but i guess ila na ning giwala rn ang polls ky it is being abused by a lot by users...& if u still doubt on what i jst said, browse nlng sa Yahoo Answers...

ANYWAY, SO MUCH NA FOR "STATISTICS"...the important thing here is we discussed a lot of things here regarding WGarcia in relation to Meralco (and GSIS). it opened our eyes. it blinked our eyes. it blinded our eyes...etc etc ek ek...hehe

IMHO, talking about WGarcia if proud ba ta or dili seems OVERRATED. instead unta to, maypa focus ta hisgot sa Meralco, other DU's, Napocor, IPP's, & Epira Law ky naa mn gyud dre ang root causes sa blema sa electric power, not WGarcia & his noise...just a thought though...

[godsaint]

Ang kawatan nga nikontra sa parehas niyang kawatan dili angay ipanghambog.

[raul]

Jesus had the right intentions and good guidance, thats the BIG differrence, so there's no way we can site Jesus life as an example...choose other examples.

and the aftermath?hhhmmm...again, i doubt it would be good provided the underlying intentions, i still believe these are short term goals for the people and long term goals for them...walay daghan pangutana, i have explained why already..hehehe

AKO LANG NI PANLANTAW ANI ATONG POLL HA!!!.

cguro mis-interpreted lang ang poll question o ba kaha sayop ang question...hehehe

anyways, if were to stick with the question as citizen of this THREAD(istoryan on politics and current events-wise)..hehehe, and now with its poll added, we could only say(at this time) that the "not proud" is "leading" and that we had our chance to express our own share of views. and cguro if were going to use statistics. i think as "citizen", as of now the poll is confined to this thread lang sa. i'm not sure about that 95% significance level but if thats how they do it, just wait, will get there, considering the ratio of voters since this started, anyways wla may limits until when this poll should end.
and also, i guess the sampling procedure that we have here could be compared to cluster sampling. though unintentionaly, we belong to a certain group which i believed we are qualified to answer the poll. hypothesis, "not proud" are leading by a large margin(66.67% versus 20%). hypothesis are inconclusive man diba? but that cannot deny the current real fact that majority(which by the way are also cebuanos) who knew of this thread and its poll clearly states that there's more(and there's going to be more probably) who are not proud of Wgarcia. that answers the question!!!

and that(to giddyboy), it is wrong to make such conclusion...this poll could last infinitely(until istorya.net exist cguro). but as time goes by (mura kanta..heheh) you will get your data and you may not like it or vice versa kaha...hehehe.
yes, the poll maybe purely out of fun, pero ayaw lang murag i-discredit ang result ani nga poll by insisting on the legalities through statistics kay mura na noun ug nani-ud ka ana, that would'nt be fun anymore..hehehe.

[cdburgh]

haay. kapoya ning nagmata oi pero galutaw lang gihapon. ako nkakuha ko sa imong pagsabot pero kanang sabota nimo dili pa na mao. ato kunong tagsa tagsa-on ni.

GIVEN:
poll questions - proud, not proud, neutral
sampling procedure - none
scope - all istoryans (supposed to be)

RESULTS:
40 voted not proud
12 voted proud
7 neutral
total 59 voters

ANALYSIS:
of the 59 voters, majority voted "not proud"

significance level (or level of "believability") - no data
margin of error - no data
any further analysis - no data

CONCLUSION:
the data analysis cannot conclude that the poll results is representative of the whole istoryan population, much more with the whole Cebuano population. sa laktod nga istorya, ato2x ra ni. lingaw2x ra ni (in english, ours ours only. purely for fun)

so if u haven't gone thru statistics course, no matter how i explain it in simple terms, di gyud ka kashabot. mao nay saktong giingon nga BLIND.

yeah right! as if you are the only person who knows how to analyze data.
ang problema nimo kay ang simple, imong i-complicate. ang gawas distorted.

unsa may walay sure ana? ky "purely for fun" ra ang atoang poll? mao btaw ko niingon nga ato ato ra ni sa mga Politics&Current events istoryans ug dili sa tibuok istoryan population. get the difference?

unya i wl correct myself, dili diay to thread ang explanation nga "purely for fun" ra ang mga poll dre. it was a PM i rcvd from one of our mods very long time ago. and in effect na mentioned nani sa usa ka thread dire. i can't remember exactly but ang poll man cguro toh about AKP/TGP.

to cite an example, yahoo polls r similar to our istorya polls. ky niapil mn gyud ko ato sauna, naa tuy fine print gbutang below sa ilang page, "yahoo polls are purely for fun". but i guess ila na ning giwala rn ang polls ky it is being abused by a lot by users...& if u still doubt on what i jst said, browse nlng sa Yahoo Answers...

basaha usab imo post para kasabot ka unsa pasabot nako na wala ka sure.
ikaw ra siguro kahibalo nga purely for fun ang polls sa istorya. show me the link and i will graciously i believe you. btw, yahoo polls and istorya polls may not have the same rules or guidelines.

ANYWAY, SO MUCH NA FOR "STATISTICS"...the important thing here is we discussed a lot of things here regarding WGarcia in relation to Meralco (and GSIS). it opened our eyes. it blinked our eyes. it blinded our eyes...etc etc ek ek...hehe

IMHO, talking about WGarcia if proud ba ta or dili seems OVERRATED. instead unta to, maypa focus ta hisgot sa Meralco, other DU's, Napocor, IPP's, & Epira Law ky naa mn gyud dre ang root causes sa blema sa electric power, not WGarcia & his noise...just a thought though...

i agree. definitely, we learned so many things about the current power issues. we also learned kinsa buta ug nagpabutabuta. hehehe

[chinitoe]

guys, hambog cya that gsis made billions in profit.. thats becoz of stock market price has gone up on the investments he never made... tan awa this yr and nx year, gamay nlng kaayo profit if not negative kay bagsak man ang stock market...

puro lng hambog..

[giddyboy]

yeah right! as if you are the only person who knows how to analyze data.
ang problema nimo kay ang simple, imong i-complicate. ang gawas distorted.

well, that's how to analyze data. i didn't distort it. i was just explaining it. ang blema man gud is even unsa ka simple, nasobraan nuon ug simple mahimo na nuon ug mali.

unsa man kunoy pasabot sa resulta sa poll beh? does the poll result represent the whole istoryans? does it represent the whole Cebuanos?

AFAIK, ang masulti ra gyud sa poll is out sa 59 ka voters, majority ang ni vote ug "not proud". and that's only it. period. you can't conclude that majority of istoryans nana cya. what more u cannot conclude majority of cebuanos nana cya pud.

dats why even unsa ka simple, naay detalye na kung unsaon pag analyze.

basaha usab imo post para kasabot ka unsa pasabot nako na wala ka sure.
ikaw ra siguro kahibalo nga purely for fun ang polls sa istorya. show me the link and i will graciously i believe you. btw, yahoo polls and istorya polls may not have the same rules or guidelines.

bay, try ask around gud. common sense ra man tingali na...a poll that has no basis to represent a group in question is non-significant and non-believable. that is why gahimo ug poll ang istorya, yahoo, google ug uban pa just for fun sakes...

i will cite a simple example: naay usa ka pamilya nag botaray. nidaug ang "not proud". so pasabot ana, kutob ra sa pamilya ang scope ug dili ta kaingon nga ang tibuok subdivision ang na represent sa votes, much more sa tibuok barrio nimo...now take that analogy sa atoang poll dire.

kana syaro naman sab wa ka kakuha sa buot nako ipa ibot...hehe

because some nato dire nga used to frequent Politics & Current events (PCE) forums maoy ksagaran ra ning vote, of course makita gyud nato nga majority of the PCE posters are "not proud". but as i've said, kutob ra ang scope sa PCE istoryans, and not the whole istoryans.

i agree. definitely, we learned so many things about the current power issues. we also learned kinsa buta ug nagpabutabuta. hehehe

dili baya ako usa sa buta ug nagpabutabuta ha. upat naman gani ni akong mata...hehehe

again, this WGarcia poll nato i find this OVERRATED. IMHO, it's better to make a poll about Meralco instead.

[cdburgh]

well, that's how to analyze data. i didn't distort it. i was just explaining it. ang blema man gud is even unsa ka simple, nasobraan nuon ug simple mahimo na nuon ug mali.

that's what you think. why make life complicated when you make it simple.

unsa man kunoy pasabot sa resulta sa poll beh? does the poll result represent the whole istoryans? does it represent the whole Cebuanos?

i have already answered what the result of the poll meant in my previous posting. you are asking new questions here and i am sure you already have answers to your questions.

AFAIK, ang masulti ra gyud sa poll is out sa 59 ka voters, majority ang ni vote ug "not proud". and that's only it. period. you can't conclude that majority of istoryans nana cya. what more u cannot conclude majority of cebuanos nana cya pud.

dats why even unsa ka simple, naay detalye na kung unsaon pag analyze.

it seems that you haven't read my previous post, read again so you can be enlightened.

bay, try ask around gud. common sense ra man tingali na...a poll that has no basis to represent a group in question is non-significant and non-believable. that is why gahimo ug poll ang istorya, yahoo, google ug uban pa just for fun sakes...

i will cite a simple example: naay usa ka pamilya nag botaray. nidaug ang "not proud". so pasabot ana, kutob ra sa pamilya ang scope ug dili ta kaingon nga ang tibuok subdivision ang na represent sa votes, much more sa tibuok barrio nimo...now take that analogy sa atoang poll dire.

kana syaro naman sab wa ka kakuha sa buot nako ipa ibot...hehe

hahay, kapila man ka ingnan nga ang majority sa ni-vote sa poll dili proud ni WG. unsa man wala nimo masabtan ana? ngano apilon man nimo ang uban nga wala man na sila nangapil.

[xxkatgorgeousxx]

basta ang gawas sa poll dinhi daghan gyud cebuano dili proud ni winston garcia..period..

matod pa sa akong mama, gisuka nas cebu si winston garcia..musunod si gwen..lolx