Hell is NOT a Lake of Fire. There is NO Endless Punishment

[junn]

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the real question is, if one interprets it literally will it contradict what the bible is saying about eternal torment in the lake of fire, where there is gnashing of teeth and endless agony without rest, day and night forever?

I say not at all. Indeed the lesson is well worth learning.

20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.




Look at verse 28: Care to know why the parable should state that the Rich Man has FIVE brothers?

[Mr.Ho_chia]

to my own limited understanding, the lesson I got from this parable is that, there is no more negotiation when one reaches his final destination. the decision has to be made here while we can still make that choice.

and the only people who are able to show us the choices are the living. that is why the faithful and the believer have the responsibility to share the gospel because it is the power of GOD unto salvation.

which bring us back to the topic. is hell, the eternal torment for real? i say YES!

[itachi]

hihihihihi...wa gyud diay ni klaro ang ADD. nangambot asta ilang mga gaway pagshur mo oi. hihihihi

ang ang bay wala man ko kahibalo TOTALLY sa tanang religion sa tibuok kalibutan. wala pud ko kahibalo sa ilang mga doctrine mao nang mangambot ko.

ikaw nakahibalo diay ka tanan?

cge kuno beh....tan awn natog dili ba pud ka mangambot

hehehe na baguhan gani ko bro karon ra jud ni cya ni tubag ug Ambot..lol

ikaw diay bay nakahibalo diay ka sa TANANG church sa tibuok kalibutan? nakahibalo diay ka sa TANANG doctrine nila?

cge beh tan awn natog dili ba pud ka mangambot...

[miket07]

to my own limited understanding, the lesson I got from this parable is that, there is no more negotiation when one reaches his final destination. the decision has to be made here while we can still make that choice.

and the only people who are able to show us the choices are the living. that is why the faithful and the believer have the responsibility to share the gospel because it is the power of GOD unto salvation.

which bring us back to the topic. is hell, the eternal torment for real? i say YES!

Correct bro.

[junn]

to my own limited understanding, the lesson I got from this parable is that, there is no more negotiation when one reaches his final destination. the decision has to be made here while we can still make that choice.

and the only people who are able to show us the choices are the living. that is why the faithful and the believer have the responsibility to share the gospel because it is the power of GOD unto salvation.

which bring us back to the topic. is hell, the eternal torment for real? i say YES!

a limited understanding only results in an erring interpretation...

sadly this is a common practice among us...

this parable was never about heaven and hell. If you read the surrounding verses you'll understand what Jesus meant. As with other parables, no part of this parable was written without purpose. If Jesus didn't specify that the rich man had five brothers, then i might agree with your interpretation.

[Mr.Ho_chia]

a limited understanding only results in an erring interpretation...

sadly this is a common practice among us...

this parable was never about heaven and hell. If you read the surrounding verses you'll understand what Jesus meant. As with other parables, no part of this parable was written without purpose. If Jesus didn't specify that the rich man had five brothers, then i might agree with your interpretation.

on the contrary sir, all of us have limited understanding and that includes you, for no one can possibly understand everything except if you are GOD.

really sir it was not meant for heaven and hell on the basis that the rich man had 5 brothers? forgive me sir care to elaborate?
and if indeed this is not about heaven and hell, on the basis of this parable you have decided that the Bible is teaching no hell, a lake of fire?

[arubinkun]

tnx for the answer. but i'm not asking about the physical location of evil. im trying to show that nothing is outside of God. not even evil itself. the hard truth is that we have been trying to ascribe to God all that is good. we overlooked the real purpose of evil. far apart what man's sinfulness have manifest out of it...

then again, remember that knowledge of good and evil sprung from the same tree in the garden of eden...

can you please cite a verse that supports your claim?

[xxkatgorgeousxx]

metaphor lang nang lake of fire.

[oTnur]

According to the Church, each soul will appear before the judgment seat of Christ immediately after death and receive a particular judgment based on the deeds of their earthly life.[77] Chapter 25:35–46 of the Gospel of Matthew underpins the Catholic belief that a day will also come when Jesus will sit in a universal judgment of all mankind.[9][78] The final judgment will bring an end to human history. It will also mark the beginning of a new heaven and earth in which righteousness dwells and God will reign forever.[79]

There are three states of afterlife in Catholic belief. Heaven is a time of glorious union with God and a life of unspeakable joy that lasts forever.[77] Purgatory is a temporary place for the purification of souls who, although saved, are not free enough from sin to enter directly into heaven. It is a state requiring penance and purgation of sin through God's mercy aided by the prayers of others.[77] Finally, those who freely chose a life of sin and selfishness, were not sorry for their sins and had no intention of changing their ways go to hell, an everlasting separation from God. The church teaches that no one is condemned to hell without freely deciding to reject God and his love.[77] He predestines no one to hell and no one can determine whether anyone else has been condemned.[77] Catholicism teaches that God's mercy is such that a person can repent even at the point of death and be saved, like the good thief who was crucified next to Jesus.

[n0b0dy]

hell is inside you.