What can Self-Righteous, Anti-GMA supporters say about these?

[LytSlpr]

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@Lytslpr I had to go back to your initial questions when you started this thread. Your point I believe then was that these problems (as indicated by your hyperlink , the Oil prices and rice shortage) were not caused by PGMA. On that account you are right. But I guess the opening remark was kinda off the mark kay gisugdan man god ug Hala samoka pa ninyou atong presidente... which seemed to imply that just because these were caused by outside forces we should not make her administration accountable for the lack of preparation to meet the problems head on. The reason why the presidency is determined by an election is precisely because she will always be held accountable to the country's citizens (here and abroad) whether or not the problems that face him/her are internally or externally driven. I for one thinks that the VAT on fuel BY NOW should have already been discontinued or at least scaled down. Our country projects its revenues based on certain assumptions. The revenues raised from VAT on fuel I am sure has already far exceeded this administrations forecast so why continue to be greedy? dapat kutob ra unta ang VAT up to a certain price in fuel. BUT kung naa pa gyud ni silay simpatiya sa plight nato why was this not done? MANAGEMENT OF AN EXTERNAL PROBLEM REQUIRES THE IMPLEMENTATION OF MITIGATING MEASURES DOABLE WITHIN THE POWERS OF PRESIDENT. The suspension of VAT is just one measure. Daghan pa ang puedeng himoon. Bright ug hardworking man kaha nang atong presidente?

I was just kinda sarcastic because these very same people and the personalities and principle they are rooting for has nothing to show for, no solution to offer and the people they want to sit in the government is obviously MORE CORRUPT than who is sitting right now.

Yes, the president is accountable directly or indirectly for what is happening to the country right now but the president is only human. If people against her won't ease up on their attacks then for me, it would not be totally the President's fault.

And ultimately, IT IS OUR FAULT, the people, for putting the President into office. Are we going to talk about her legitimacy because of the EDSA 2 or the "Hello Garci?" let's go over it and move on because those did not prosper. Regardless if they were true or not, the court or congress has the call on those issues and if the the people are not satisfied by the court or congress' decision, then there should have been a revolution by now. We might think that booting the president out is a political exercise because it is done by congress or justices that are presidential-appointees then that is not the President's fault anymore. IF we don't agree with the system then the people should take measures that this system should be changed but what makes it more frustrating is that we are not doing anything even if are aware of this loophole a long time ago, so why bother?

Looking beyond, these people would always be attacking the one sitting in Malacanang if it is not them or their puppet.

[Luskan]

It is not our fault that we put GMA on the seat, what choice do we have? It's a choice between a dying king and a politician.
FPJ and GMA has the highest densities of voters. I think we are on the right track.

[tinsi]

Yes, the president is accountable directly or indirectly for what is happening to the country right now but the president is only human. If people against her won't ease up on their attacks then for me, it would not be totally the President's fault.

I am totally confused by the last comment of yours Lytslpr. Are we saying that the President's success or failure in solving the country's problems rests on whether we criticize her or not? You mean it has nothing to do with her abilities to lead? Great leaders do not become one for lack of criticism. They become one because of the criticisms and DESPITE of the criticisms.

And ultimately, IT IS OUR FAULT, the people, for putting the President into office. Are we going to talk about her legitimacy because of the EDSA 2 or the "Hello Garci?" let's go over it and

- you probably mean to say "get over it" and "not go over it" maybe a typo nevertheless it is important to make that distinction since one means to move on while the other means to just skip over it and pretend it never was. Sorry not acceptable since this means accepting a president that never got the people's mandate to lead and yet you are asking that we don't criticize and simply follow... MADAHAN?



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[LytSlpr]

I am totally confused by the last comment of yours Lytslpr. Are we saying that the President's success or failure in solving the country's problems rests on whether we criticize her or not? You mean it has nothing to do with her abilities to lead? Great leaders do not become one for lack of criticism. They become one because of the criticisms and DESPITE of the criticisms.
- you probably mean to say "get over it" and "not go over it" maybe a typo nevertheless it is important to make that distinction since one means to move on while the other means to just skip over it and pretend it never was. Sorry not acceptable since this means accepting a president that never got the people's mandate to lead and yet you are asking that we don't criticize and simply follow... MADAHAN?

I am totally confused by the last comment of yours Lytslpr. Are we saying that the President's success or failure in solving the country's problems rests on whether we criticize her or not? You mean it has nothing to do with her abilities to lead? Great leaders do not become one for lack of criticism. They become one because of the criticisms and DESPITE of the criticisms.
- you probably mean to say "get over it" and "not go over it" maybe a typo nevertheless it is important to make that distinction since one means to move on while the other means to just skip over it and pretend it never was. Sorry not acceptable since this means accepting a president that never got the people's mandate to lead and yet you are asking that we don't criticize and simply follow... MADAHAN?

criticism is another thing, conspiring to put her administration down is another and the very people who keeps on criticizing her are one and the same.

it was a typo, i meant get over it. go over is to scrutinize. sorry, my bad.

[FK]

hala sige samoka pa ninyo ug maayo atong presidente mura baya ug naa mo'y solusyon. unsa na man sad inyong rason ron? gi-tuyo ni ni GMA? mao ni na-ingon ani kay corrupt siya? puro ra mo rason, satsat ug propaganda.

di lagi na santos atong presidente pero arang-arang na lang na ikompara sa mga ni detractors niya. naa sad uban nagpa moral2x ug approach mura sad baya ug mga limpyo, mas hakog pa di'ay to.

bantayan gyud nako ning mga tawhana kung sila na ang mo lingkod kung makapa-ubos ba ni sila sa dollar, presyo sa gasolona ug bugas ug makadungag ba ni ug trabaho. tan-awon gyud ni nako ilang pagka maayong laki

ayaw ninyo samoka kay naa fuel crisis onya naa rice crisis... but wait, dba gisamok man nato si ERAP while naa Asian crisis? huh? ngano lahi2x man?

ngano naka ingon man ka arang2x nga wala gani na sila ka lingkod... imo ikumpara si ERAP?

btaw bai noh... basin ang pagka corrupt ni GMA ang hinungdan, kay kung wala pa ang fertilizer scam sus! pila kaha jud ang ani ato panahona.

pero mas mo pusta pa ko sa wala pay agi kontra sa nakalingkod nga economics major kono nga sige ingon wala'y rice crisis. Kato nagpaka self-righteous sa panahon ni ERAP... onsa na man na inyo GMA ron? hakog ghapon? Kung being an anti GMA is self-righteous onsa man tawag sa anti-ERAP? :P

Regardless if they were true or not, the court or congress has the call on those issues and if the the people are not satisfied by the court or congress' decision, then there should have been a revolution by now. We might think that booting the president out is a political exercise because it is done by congress or justices that are presidential-appointees then that is not the President's fault anymore.

Indirectly it will be the presidents fault if he/she influences their vote... if they are appointed not because of credentials but because of loyalty.

Criticizing is not being self-righteous, it just being critical... If we will not demand accountability and high-caliber performance from our president, then why do we care if we put a comedian, artist a person who has no grade in that seat?

My hope is beyond GMA, she's not the only one capable of running this country. If she was "samok2x" by controversies, there's no one else to blame but her. It is her own doing, she destabilizes herself.

[Archer sensAtion]

sa langtod nga istorya... mag huwat jud ta sa 2010 election kaysa mag cgi ug pamugos nga pana-ogon ang president...

[Godfather]

sa langtod nga istorya... mag huwat jud ta sa 2010 election kaysa mag cgi ug pamugos nga pana-ogon ang president...

Dili tanan nga nanaway ni GMA namugos nga pakana-ugon siya. Husto na para sa gadaghanan nga magtarong siya sa iyang pagpadagan sa gobiyerno. Bisan pa for life nga presidente siya basta pareho sa magduma sa Singapore ang resulta, mosugot ko. Sakto na lang unta nang kawat unya tago-tago dayon kong mabulgar. Ang kanang pagsige ug pangawat unya pamakak mao na ang gireklamohan sa kadaghanan. Grabe na kaayo.

Maayo unta nga ang pag-gukod sa Ombudsman ni kanhi Secretary Perez ug nila ni Ouano ug Radaza tima-ilhan nga magusab na si GMA. Basin na lang ug na konsiyensa na.

[Archer sensAtion]

dili pa naugon?... sobra pa man tingali gani na sa pana-ogon ang gibuhat sa oposisyon...

"pamakak and pangawat"...duh?!?

hahay sakay2x sa panahon...

[worldwide]

dili pa naugon?... sobra pa man tingali gani na sa pana-ogon ang gibuhat sa oposisyon...

"pamakak and pangawat"...duh?!?

hahay sakay2x sa panahon...

magpakabana dili sakay-sakay.
magsige nya ta sakay-sakay, matagak nya ta sa pangpang kung dili magbantay.

[Archer sensAtion]

magpakabana dili sakay-sakay.
magsige nya ta sakay-sakay, matagak nya ta sa pangpang kung dili magbantay.

aw pakabana jud... naa may uban sakay2x lang sa panahon ug sa panon...hehehe