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  1. #31

    Default Re: The Elephant and The Blind Men (let's try to end the conflict...)


    Quote Originally Posted by pal
    lets just say Christianity s one of the blind men. Supposedly Christians should have a common belief. Specialy Christian denominations who only believe in Bible as the complete and authentic Word of God.

    Why they still argue when they are touching the same spot?

    Some believe in Holy Trinity. Some believe on oneness. You mean both of them are right? How will that happen?
    it all depends on where you are standing from (point of view)... you may be right in a small scale, but the whole picture is another story...

  2. #32

    Default Re: The Elephant and The Blind Men (let's try to end the conflict...)

    Quote Originally Posted by pal
    Some believe in Holy Trinity. Some believe on oneness. You mean both of them are right? How will that happen?
    now that you mentioned this... it's a classic example of arguing whether a ball is round or spherical. it only proves that God is too great for one group to claim that they have all truths...

    those who believe in the trinity actually sees one aspect...those who believe in oneness sees another...

    the problem lies in our human tendencies... we tend to make an institution out of our convictions... not withstanding that another aspect may have been revealed to another... and a different one to another...

  3. #33

    Default Re: HHow To Help Dissipate Religious Bigotry and End Conflicts

    Quote Originally Posted by junn
    now that you mentioned this... it's a classic example of arguing whether a ball is round or spherical. it only proves that God is too great for one group to claim that they have all truths...

    those who believe in the trinity actually sees one aspect...those who believe in oneness sees another...

    the problem lies in our human tendencies... we tend to make an institution out of our convictions... not withstanding that another aspect may have been revealed to another... and a different one to another...
    i believe that there are ideas that cannot be merged. Just like the example i gave (Holy Trinity and Oneness), they are totally different.

    In that case, i agree with bro geoseph's idea..
    Quote Originally Posted by geoseph
    By defining terms and finding common ground, hopefully those in debate may better understand and learn from each other. If a good point is given, it's best to concede and move on. If a point is given that one does not agree with, asking to clarify the matter would be more productive than mere disagreement. One also gains the opportunity to learn from the other person. By having first invested in a common understanding, if a refutation may be found, it can be arrived at as a friend.
    each side may have a point. but it doesnt mean they are both right. it is more productive if they'll clarify things to come up a common idea.

    I am also a Bible believer. I believe that the Bible alone is reliable, complete Word of God and doesn't contradict itself. I just hope that arguements between Bible believers may be settled and then rise a common faith.

    "You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one. I hope someday you'll join us and the world will live as one" <--- few lines from Imagine by John Lennon..

  4. #34

    Default Re: How To Help Dissipate Religious Bigotry and End Conflicts

    open to all other truths

  5. #35

    Default Re: How To Help Dissipate Religious Bigotry and End Conflicts

    Quote Originally Posted by brownprose
    open to all other truths
    yeah, I think that's a crucial point. :mrgreen:

  6. #36

    Default Re: How To Help Dissipate Religious Bigotry and End Conflicts

    Just listen to "IMAGINE" of John Lennon..

    And do anything you've learn from it..

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    Default Re: How To Help Dissipate Religious Bigotry and End Conflicts

    Quote Originally Posted by NASYO
    Just listen to "IMAGINE" of John Lennon..

    And do anything you've learn from it..
    what? you really think its that simple?i mean listening and doing anything you've learn from a song can help dissipate religious bigotry? kaya nga siguro imagine ang title kasi hanngang pang imagine lang ang concept nun...

  8. #38

    Default Re: How To Help Dissipate Religious Bigotry and End Conflicts

    the late bob marley once said you could actually heal the bigotry and hatred by injecting music. literally music. - will smith, I AM LEGEND

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