Blue Ray victory over HD DVD

[vern]

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Like I said before, DRM whether it is BD+ or anything else does not prevent the ripping and copying of Bluray movies. The private tracker I use has every retail and unreleased retail of every HD-DVD and Bluray movie out there. When will these companies learn. When will people learn that it's not about corporations and the regular consumer, it's about corporations and their stubborness to control technologies and making it so closed that manufacturers can't make equipment based on those technologies without forking over their soul and money to the devil himself.

I have nothing against Bluray. I have a PS3 and a 360 with the HD-DVD addon. I can watch either ... but the fact is, the consumer did not make the decide which format won this time around. The better consumer product which previously had better and more abundant stuff out there didn't win. Before all this happened and still is until the Bluray engine gets going full steam, HD-DVD had better titles out and the features in those were great and well supported by many players out there. Bluray however was such a mess. Many Bluray titles didn't have any of the touted features of Bluray and those that did, most damn players didn't support them. It's a shame.

EDIT:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...?query=Toshiba

[brown_dog]

Warner Brothers invested in Blue ray Which means More movies that support the Blue Ray. This is the winning factor for SOny.

I don't know much about the specifics of these formats, all I know is that Blue ray has way more capacity than the HD DVD and that is basically a good thing since more movies can be stored and more capacity equates to higher quality movies.

[StyM]

i now predict , prices to go up....

[obemon]

^^
Blu-Ray may have won over HD DVD but remember they still have to battle it out with the old and trusty DVD and the ever increasing popularity of digital downloads. If Sony and the gang put up the prices right now for both Blu-Ray hardware and it's media, that would just further slow down adoption.

[Visual C#]

Who cares about both anyway. Only 0.001% of the population owns a hi-def TV; there are already other upcoming formats in the works that can surpass HD-DVD and BluRay capacities.

By that time, they'll resort to even more drastic DRM schemes.

[vern]

eh, at least amongst the crowd that I know, HDTV is in. Amongst gamers, HDTV is in. Amongst cable/satellite, HDTV is in. My parents even have an HDTV ... and they bought it like 5 years ago, the set itself was HDTV cable, all it needed was an HDTV receiver. Walk into any store now and the majority of sets are HDTV, although sadly, limited to 720p. You would be surprised by the abundance of people who have HDTVs.

Upcoming formats don't matter if the support for it doesn't exist. Even a version of Bluray that can support much more than it does now is never going to be supported by the mainstream and studios because it would require hardware that players today don't have to utilize, although technically still Bluray.

[[DSX]]

here's one guy that seems to think it's Microsoft's undoing.
a lengthy but interesting read.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=752055
excerpt:

The Format War Origins.
Since Sony had no rival video codec software to push, and Microsoft had no real hardware interests to defend, why were they battling for the next generation of video discs rather than working together on a joint standard? Initially, Microsoft did work with Sony. However, the rest of the industry working with Sony on Blu-Ray rejected portions of Microsoft’s technology, sending the company into a furious rivalry against Blu-Ray.

A follow up article on the origins of the format war presented Microsoft’s efforts to push its Windows Media and WinCE as essential, proprietary aspects of both the new HD disc formats. While Microsoft successfully wrote Windows Media (aka VC-1) into the specification of both Toshiba’s AOD and Sony’s Blu-Ray, the Blu-Ray consortium members later selected Java-based technology from Sun as its interactive menu layer rather than Microsoft’s WinCE/HDi.

the guy has a point

Here's another interesting quote from Director Michael Bay (Transformers). When asked why Transformers was only released on HD-DVD he replied:

"What you don't understand is corporate politics. Microsoft wants both formats to fail so they can be heroes and make the world move to digital downloads. That is the dirty secret no one is talking about. That is why Microsoft is handing out $100 million dollar checks to studios just embrace the HD DVD and not the leading, and superior Blu Ray. They want confusion in the market until they perfect the digital downloads. Time will tell and you will see the truth."

http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum...=5874#post5874

PS: For the record. let it be known that the right word is Blu-Ray and not Blue Ray