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  1. #91

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    i doubt is pinas can sustain.. nag ka mahal ang mga presyo sa mga fresh grad nato haaha.. taiwan is hot as well as with vietnam and thailand..

  2. #92

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkdimensions
    i doubt is pinas can sustain.. nag ka mahal ang mga presyo sa mga fresh grad nato haaha.. taiwan is hot as well as with vietnam and thailand..

    all the more reasons BPO should raise their wages. singapore, malaysia, dubai, saudi are hiring workers across all categories. from IT, to blue & white collar, laborers, construction, hospitality/tourism, even janitor, practically everybody.

    OT:

    my former pioneer batchmates in PS confided that the company has no choice but to hire "substandard" agents just to meet the demands of the client and the old, good agents from the ISP account are moved to "A bigger & newer account" account.

    inig kadugay ani ang hiring i-classify na. i think they were already doing this before but i never really thought about it until the disparity became really obvious. maka-ingon siguro ang trainers ug team managers, it is easier to train a fish how to talk. hehehe!!!

  3. #93

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    saon taman.. ani man gyud ning negosyo..

    nindot sad ni aron katung mga maglisod ug sulod sa callcenter sama nako.. madawat na hhihihi.. when kaha ko madawat sa PS or sa laing call center nhu huhuhuh.. tabang mga emploers!

  4. #94

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    Exactly, but what i mean by "pay him like american agent" is to give him a rate thats commensurate to his true capabilities rather than his being a highschool/undergrad level. Like in US, there must be no discrimination as to educational attainment as long as he meet all requirements to be a call center agent. Grant him with equal employment opportunites as what americans are getting if you want quality outputs.please don't equate equal opportunity with equal outcome. a high school/undergrad level applicant being hired by a call center company is a testament that equal employment opportunity is being practiced. if he/she is already hired then where's the discrimination part in that said equation?

    and before you open your mouth again regarding "equal employment opportunity", please take note of what it stands for:

    "The term Equal Opportunity Employment was created by President Lyndon B. Johnson when he signed Executive Order 11246 which was created to prohibit federal contractors from discriminating against employees on the basis of race, ***, creed, religion, color, or national origin."

    EEOC
    Wikipedia

    Did i ever say pay him in US dollars or its peso equivalent? Wala na'y outsourcing mahitabo ana except sa cybersex
    "The bottom line is he is qualified, therefore pay him like US call center agent."

    ^ then what does that statement of yours mean? please enlighten us readers of this thread...
    Shut Up! Let your GAME do the talking!

  5. #95

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    but if you want to get a promotion coupled with huge bucks humana ang skwela.. hihih.. you wont be get'n a lot..

  6. #96

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40
    OT @ GIDDYBOY .....

    Mao lang na ang akong na observe because I can vouch for nobody else except the people I knew personally , by acquaintance and testimonies . It is indeed FATE kung mo tuo mo . Too sad coming from an institution that caters and produces the top technical students in Cebu if not in the Philippines pero wala magamit instead it an individual success ang nahitabo .... iyahay ug DISKARTE without the need and use of the so called DIPLOMA . Tuod its an advantage to have one ( diploma ) but its not advisable to wait for that advantage kay pasmo ra ang kontra . Havent you notice of such personalities na PROFESSIONALS pero UNEPLOYED unya mga panablahay kaayo but are earning a 6 figure income in a month ?

    Regarding sa CALLCENTER ... it is a very applicable and advantage job if not all of the agents , most of the agents . All you need is to COMMUNICATE CONSISTENTLY and EFFIECIANTLY which is needed in the real world while encompassing stressful situations , overcoming micromanagement , and learning to value teamwork . Good for the CALL CENTERS , they accept undergrads !!
    u have a point there bro...and most diploma holders that are not nurses or PT's ang maingon ana.
    This is really just a simple case of "Law of Supply & Demand".
    Ang demand kau rn are the nurses and PT's for abroad so knanglan gyud kmpleto ka sa academic requirements, diploma, licenses, state boards...but if u r a licensed engineer or commerce grad, gmay ra gyud ang demand compared to them...dats why a lot of peeps coming from these categories will find the need to be "creative", and "innovative", as the demand for jobs that exactly fit their academic courses here is not enough for the new grads that the schools are churning out every year...

    Glad that we have IT's nowadays...


  7. #97

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    Quote Originally Posted by victor3
    make it a good haven for foreign ticks & leeches...

    maybe its time for RP to nationalize the industry so that we will become a BPO PROVIDER/SUPPLIER, with bargaining power coterminous to Saudi's oil. This is way better compared to a mere BPO haven for foreign investors nga mura lang nuon ta nag maintain og construction worker or mag-uuma sa tubo nga papauli-on sa balay kun wala nay trabahuon...

    the project is feasible because not only that it requires less capital (i-improve ra man gamay ang education by more english and less bull****, then palit og daghan headsets sa cd r-king ), there is actually a damn need for foreing companies to outsource. Asa sa china? Of course diri ra gyud sa pinas. Therefore we should be the one nga mag-invest then sila igo ra sila mupalit diri og LABOR at our PRICE.

    pero unsaon man, mopatigbabaw man gyud ang kolonyal nga mentalidad sa kadaghanan nga moluhod na nuon sa ongoing exploitation ug mo-justify pa gyud sa nahi-agoman sa pinoy call center agent....kay lagi gikinahanglan man nila ang pamugas, ignoring the fact nga sila mismo ang mag-uuma dili lang sa bugas, kundili sa nagkadaiyang lagutmon ug nating kordero sa pasib-siban nga siya mismo ang nanag-iya ug nagtikad .
    pre, bilib jud ko sa imong bisaya da, lawom kaayo...nihit na kaayo ang mga pareha nimo bay...i hope i can learn more of our local tongue...so i can be proud of it & teach it to my children...

    but pre, u sound like u r a member of a leftist group... hehe

  8. #98

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkdimensions
    saon taman.. ani man gyud ning negosyo..

    nindot sad ni aron katung mga maglisod ug sulod sa callcenter sama nako.. madawat na hhihihi.. when kaha ko madawat sa PS or sa laing call center nhu huhuhuh.. tabang mga emploers!
    Btaw, naa sab daghan kau nga maglisod ug sulod sa callcenter oist! i have a friend halos tanan gi-applyan pero hangtud karon wa pa jud madawat. saun gahi kau ang ininglis ug ang tingug karat kau murag c Rico J. Puno. LOL

  9. #99

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    klaro na.. hihih.. giddyboy.. duda sad ko ba.. kanang mga pulonga tua na sa pikas .. hihih..

  10. #100

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    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy
    pre, bilib jud ko sa imong bisaya da, lawom kaayo...nihit na kaayo ang mga pareha nimo bay...i hope i can learn more of our local tongue...so i can be proud of it & teach it to my children...

    but pre, u sound like u r a member of a leftist group... hehe
    OT: my standpoint maybe has congruence with those of leftist groups but am not really a member nor a fan. I still love my corporate position

    istorya nalang ko og binisaya diri kay maglisod man ko og debate ni omad nga maningles...LOLZ

    @omad

    Honestly, if i wasnt been reading springfield's or omad's post on EEOC i still dont know that there is really such a term or a legislation for that matter. But either way that doesnt deprive me of knowing its true essence because based on Johnson definition itself that you have given, it boils down to the recognition of man's basic rights which is pretty discernable even by Samoan tribes.

    Yes, Johnson created "Equal Opportunity Employment", but the term "equal employment opportunity" or "equal opportunity employment"? naa pa si johnson sa itlog sa iyang apohan ana bay...LOLZ. besides any statesman can have its own version of it, and this time ako gipili ang version ni springfield because its alot encompassing than johnson's. Ngano man? it includes discrimination based on educational attainment man gud bay unlike kang johnson nga more on colours ra gyud sa skin.

    "Pay him like a US based call center agent".

    Sorry if you got burned by believing that its all about the money. But if you care to read around the post that preceeds it the context clearly invokes employee's essential worth which should be the basis for his compensation. Do not force me to bark the wrong tree with you cuz im throwing-up already

    Highschool/undergrads..thanks to call centers they are given the opportunity to work, but not without bearing the brunt of exploitation, abuses, health hazards and untimely lay-offs. The first three are of course tolerable by a typical pinoy but the latter definitely makes them disadvantaged compared to other profession.

    Therefore, no equal employment opportunity (sic).


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