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  1. #21

    Default Re: ESPRINT SOFTWARE AND NG KHAI COMPANY


    Hi guys, nice thread here, very informative. I have similar problems years ago when I was still employed on a different company. At first my decision was to file a case, but then i realized it's not a wise move, everything has happened and nobody can change that. If you think deeper, all things have happened for a purpose, for both the company and the employee. As for the company, it's time to wrap up things, have meetings, evaluations, studies and etc. in order to determine the issues, resolutions, the cause and effect, and such (investigation starts at the manager or PMs - this is where most of the problems start). As for the ex-employee, it's time to realize on what you really wanted in life. Do you want to go work for others, be tough and obey the rules? or Work just for yourself and have your own rules? or Do something else to prove what you have in mind? Many many questions and so much things to think. If the company is not doing anything (producing unhappy employees), 100% same thing will happen in the future. If the ex-employee doesn't really know what he/she wanted in life, same thing will happen on his/her future employers.

    As for my case, i prefer to do something else to prove that handling a software development team/company (specifically for software developers) is not totally the same as handling other types of jobs. I once started a freelance team, but right now was on the process for a business registration and office space lease (with a budget from my client on freelancing). Though the company is very pre-mature, but we (I and my client) were able to get more and more developers. We're not as stable as other IT companies, but we were able to offer something to them in which other companies can't grant(aside from high rates). As a software developer myself, I know every single detail what a software developer would want from a company to be more productive and creative. And for my previous employer, I have heard that still a lot of employees wanted to resign but were just waiting for other offers from other companies. (i guess they haven't changed the system at all).

    Ladies and gentlemen, love your job (my first programming job was much lower than what I'm getting previously as a Pizza Hut service crew and just a bit higher from East West Coffee Shop as a bar tender, but I really really love it!). If you're not happy, it's time to ponder. Stop blaming the company for your misfortunes, it won't help. Do you think other companies would want to hire you if you'd create such noise and file a case from your previous employer? NO.

    Cheers! :mrgreen:


  2. #22

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    Wanted to grab the opportunity to clarify things since we have here the CEO of Ng Khai. Months ago a friend of mine from Zamboanga asked If I happen to know a company named "Esprint" from Cebu and I said no. (I just knew it right on this thread) I asked him the reason for his inquiry. He said that an institution from Zamboanga paid millions of peso for a software but it's not working or was buggy (the reason why the use of it was hold-off). And the sad thing he said was it was all paid. I believe he posted the issue on some other blogs or some yahoogroups, not sure if it reached Esprint or Ng Khai.

  3. #23

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    nice thoughts mark...

    addendum: love your job not ur company.. coz no company can promise you a lifetime employment.. take that from J.Welch himself..

    @markg: what sotware applications is your team doing right now? maybe we can collaborate... im inthe processing of registering my startup together with my team of developers/programmers and we wanted more applications to better serve our close to 600 registered clients and still growing.

    regards,

  4. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by markg
    Wanted to grab the opportunity to clarify things since we have here the CEO of Ng Khai. Months ago a friend of mine from Zamboanga asked If I happen to know a company named "Esprint" from Cebu and I said no. (I just knew it right on this thread) I asked him the reason for his inquiry. He said that an institution from Zamboanga paid millions of peso for a software but it's not working or was buggy (the reason why the use of it was hold-off). And the sad thing he said was it was all paid. I believe he posted the issue on some other blogs or some yahoogroups, not sure if it reached Esprint or Ng Khai.
    well if that's the case, dapat man sad jud niya i report officially sa Esprint, kay if mag cge lang cya post sa mga blogs and rant about it the entire web over, wala jud tawn mabuhgat ang NK ana iyang problema. people should learn to follow simple grievance procedures.

    I have crossed paths with some fellows from Ng Khai and they seem to be really reasonable people who seem to do their jobs independently and are even aware of their quality issues. sometimes ang mga empelyado sad kay unreasonable sad kaayo ug demands and I know for sure organizations like NK ila jud na istudyuhan every move they make.

  5. #25

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    naka work kos ng khai kadiyot

    mingaw nakos akong mga fellow product managagers

    hehehe


  6. #26

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    hello all, all hello! bcn lagpas ra q ha. pcnxa daan. ang NK ug Accountmate usa rana? Ky nangpply ko's Mynimo NK then ang nanawag ky accountmate, hmmm. Ako lng e sure ky kung usa rana cla, mka dcyd ko kung mupadayun ko sa exam =)
    tnx tnx.

  7. #27
    @LoneWolf: imu jud gibuhi ang 3 yrs na nga thread... hehehe they're not the same company but partners i guess..

    i worked at esprint 7 or 8 years ago, fresh pa kau ko and idealistic at that time, working directly with W.Ng was a privilege.. you will better understand the rationale in decision making sa business once you have ur own business to run... it's true i learn a lot from him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennan26 View Post
    @LoneWolf: imu jud gibuhi ang 3 yrs na nga thread... hehehe they're not the same company but partners i guess..

    i worked at esprint 7 or 8 years ago, fresh pa kau ko and idealistic at that time, working directly with W.Ng was a privilege.. you will better understand the rationale in decision making sa business once you have ur own business to run... it's true i learn a lot from him...
    bai ni pm q nmu hehe. tnx daan sa ans.

  9. #29
    I work before in NK and I have no problem with the company. In fact my career start in NK and i give credit to the company because I start the foundation of my career through NK. I'm very grateful to the company because they allow me to work even I am a newly graduate and without experience. Through NK I build my career slowly until I am ready to explore and look for greener pasture.

    I dont think the company is not good to their employees because I witness how I grow in NK. In fact there are several loyal employees in NK that still working in the company that already render their service 10 years and above. That is the proof that the company maintain good relationship with their employees. Some employees leaves the company not because they are not happy. I leave the company because I have better opportunity working on a multinational company. And it make sense for me becasue I can fully utilize my skilss to have an actual experience in working on critical production environment with thousand of users worldwide.

    Sometimes we need to change our working attitude. We can transfer to other company but we will not succeed unless we have the right attitude towards work.

  10. #30
    Karon paman ko kakita ani nga post oi, Esprint / Ng Khai to be fair i learned a lot from the company, not because of the training but the lack of it. Basically you are fed to the Lions. When i was part of this Co. there were a lot of Labor Violations to employees but mostly remained silent kai wala lagi ikasukol sa mga datu nga tag iya. Without due process employees were fired and humiliated nya buhatan pakag sala without even giving you a chance to defend yourself. Naay usa ka hitabo nga naay usa ka empleyado nagbitbit ug Hard-drive sulod sa compound kai naai giayo nga computer, nakit an sa tag iya giingnan dayon ug kawatan. If the Presidernt of the company treats employees that way, Unsa may ikasukol sa mga ordenaryong taw? This is the worst company i've ever become part of, not recommending their product and working here. Kung naa palay Tulfo sauna dugay nani na Tulfo.

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