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  1. #91

    pero na curious jud ko sa sabbath day. daghan jung lalis ana within religions kung sabado ba jud or sunday. para nako i dont think it matters, as long as you have a day where you celebrate and bond with God.. pero i dunno. mag research sa ko before ko mo comment ug daghan on that part.
    Sabbath day was never changed mam. It was only changed by the Catholic church.
    Moved from 7th day to 1st day.(Sunday)

    In the Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, we read:

    Q. Which is the Sabbath day?
    A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.

    Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
    A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea, (AD 336) transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday….

    Q. Why did the Catholic Church substitute Sunday for Saturday?
    A. The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday, because Christ rose from the dead on a Sunday, and the Holy Ghost descended upon the Apostles on a Sunday.

    Q. By what authority did the Church substitute Sunday for Saturday?
    A. The Church substituted Sunday for Saturday by the plenitude of that divine power which Jesus Christ bestowed upon her!
    —Rev. Peter Geiermann, C.SS.R., (1946), p. 50.

    The weekly cycle still remains the same since ancient days.
    There was a change with the Gregorian Calendar in October 1582
    Thursday, October 4, was followed by Friday, October 15- but the weekly cycle remains the same.
    Thursday still followed by Friday.
    You can also ask any Judaist who has been keeping the sabbath since ancient biblical times.

    Sabbath is the institution of God while transferring this to sunday comes from the tradition of man.
    The bible says in Acts 5:29 we should obey God rather than doctrines of man, This is where I stand.

  2. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    murag puro contradictory imung statements bai
    My point here is our salvation mangud..

  3. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Pomed1984 View Post
    My point here is our salvation mangud..
    i know, but it doesn't changed the fact that your statements contradict with each other.
    mao ni imu sulti una o
    Quote Originally Posted by Pomed1984 View Post
    Remember this guys, no perfect religions. Og walay religion nga makaadto sa langit. Dawbe kadto lugar mga tao nga nagpuyo sa kabukiran, mga ita, mga kabus, mga pobre, and etc nga kulang og alam sa biblya og walay duol nga simbahan where they can find Jesus, and most of all no religion? Asa lugar padulong ilang mga kalag kung mangamatay sila? impyerno?
    kung atong sabton, kini nga statement nimu bai would seemingly suggest that we can't make absolute conclusions when it comes to salvation. deeming salvation as a mystery with you even citing the examples of indigenous people not being able to know Jesus to prove your point. therefore, expressing the idea that there is still hope for salvation even if one does not get the chance to know Jesus or christianity.

    ok na unta to pero imung concluding statement kay mao man ni..
    Quote Originally Posted by Pomed1984 View Post
    Wow! That's why, as long as you love Jesus and accept Him as your personal Savior, the only Son of God, and He died on the cross for our sins, you will be saved, miskin unsa paka nga relihiyon.
    so karun need na jud e accept si Jesus as personal savior to be saved..

    kakita ka sa contradiction bai? ingun ka di ta kaingun nga sunogon sa imperno ang kalag sa mga tao nga wa kaila ni Jesus kay mao lage salvation is mystery blah blah blah pero need e accept si Jesus para maluwas..hahahahaha

    usa pa nga contradiction bai, ingun ka importante lang is that one should accept Jesus to be saved regardless of religion diba? "miskin unsa paka nga relihiyon" mao na imu sulti..
    you do know that in Islam, Jesus is just a prophet and not God right? or in Judaism, samot kay false prophet jud. ang buddhists and Hindus, wa juy Jesus nila..so unsaon pag accept sa tao ni Jesus if their religion doesn't have Jesus in it to start with? unless by religion you mean denominations within the christendom.

  4. #94
    religion for me is kanang mo start naka ug create ug division sa imo mind nga " kami pinili, outside sa among hugpong o fans club are inferior groups than us .ug usahay mo claim pa jud ta nga outside sa fans club murag way klaro ang salvation, then its is a religion. if naa na clear discrimination between us and them with formal doctrine then mao na na. Therefore, born again is a religion.

    If you look all people as part of one body of God regardless of their beliefs, then you don't create division and separateness that defines your group among other belief system.
    Last edited by ketllac; 04-01-2018 at 10:56 AM.

  5. #95
    I would prefer having a relationship than having a religion.

  6. #96
    relationship to the God defined by your belief system called born again Christianity is to be identified with this system. the moment you identified with this teaching, you already separate yourself as different from other sect. and that makes it an autonomous branch of Christianity.

  7. #97
    nganung basta born again ila man gamiton permi ang word nga PERSONAL?

    sila diay tag-iya ni Jesus?

  8. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by tsunade View Post
    nganung basta born again ila man gamiton permi ang word nga PERSONAL?

    sila diay tag-iya ni Jesus?
    Personal saviour. Ilaha personal di pwedi i share sa uban. sama sa imung toothbrush personal man na, lain sad kaayu imu i share..

  9. #99
    murag bodyguard diay si jesus, kay personal savior. laysho

  10. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post



    naa lang koy share kay akong amigo diri bago lang nisulod ug born again. sa una cool pa kaayo to cya. karon kay mura na ug boang, grabi na ka judgemental. maka act mura na ug perfect na tao. wala pa lang koy time karon para ako cya e-undergo sa marius-test
    Lol mao nay gitawag ug born against syndrome boss mar hahahaha

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