Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[RayGunz]

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and my first question was, Who told you with that? its very inappropriate and disrespectful to throw such questions if you haven't answered the questions just yet. secondly our arguments now is not about salvation out arguments is all about this crap thread as for you

Avoiding the core question is a Perfect response indeed, now you understand the feeling of being scammed by your own faith, works, and religion. Crawling creepy on your very skin. An awesome awful feeling of truth. Or perhaps are you spearhading a pack of you know "liars". They should enjoy reading your responses.

BTW, i dont need anybody telling me the 3 million as it is a figure for presentation purposes, never a benchmark, it can always be overstated or understated. Yeah so narrow minded is your slimy brain. I have to agree with that.

[slabdans]

Avoiding the core question is a Perfect response indeed, now you understand the feeling of being scammed by your own faith, works, and religion. Crawling creepy on your very skin. An awesome awful feeling of truth. Or perhaps are you spearhading a pack of you know "liars". They should enjoy reading your responses.

BTW, i dont need anybody telling me the 3 million as it is a figure for presentation purposes, never a benchmark, it can always be overstated or understated. Yeah so narrow minded is your slimy brain. I have to agree with that.

why can't you answer a simple question? anyways; I know that you will never gonna answer that, because if you do; you will fall on my trap however., you didn't notice that you already fall from it if you answer that question you know that i'm gonna throw an accusation that you believed in somebody's falls information. but you did not realized that you already believing from it for the whole time. claiming yourself to be an athiest just to be cool? what a pathetic idiot, atheism is not base on faith and beliefs you are a hypocrite believing on something that is really not existed. you are not atheist you are just a kid wanted to be cool. I'm done with you mr coolkid

[CarpeNoctem]

wrong, atheism has nothing to do with mass murders.. it was purely political.. there are more theist MASS MURDERS than atheist..zacharias never debates because he knows he sucks

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pareha ra mong zacharias nga bogo..

hitler, churchill, alexander the great, genghis khan etc..they are all ****ing THEIST and they are mass murderers too..

they killed because of political reasons you ****ing idiot

even ST constantine the geat your ****ing saint is a mass murderer

Wa pa gihapon nimo nakuha ang point ni Zacharias.

Ang iyang(Stalin) pagka Atheist mao ang nag tulod niya to kill millions.

Ayaw na ug deny kay di nimo kaya na tabunan.

[the_guardian]

OT: basta religion nalagi ang istoryahan...dili jud maghuman....

Anyways, everybody here has a point...but it depends on how the reader view it...

Personally, I am a baptized Catholic but I'm not that religious...I believe there's more reality in science than in religion but I'm not saying I'm an atheist either...I believe both science and religion can co-exist, same as man is both good and evil...

The question "Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works too?" is a personal question that each of us has different answers, especially, that each of us has different religion.

But if I will be asked, my answer would be... "Why do you need to be saved?"

[Dwardzed]

Naa ra bay mga Christian nga mo-tuo nga naa puy devil.
pero ang diperensiya inig pray na nila, nga maorag na-belong na sa works.

[PhakSheet]

naay duha ka taw, nga pulos di kamao molangoy, ang nag-sakay sa sakayan (bangka nga de-bugsay).
sa wa nila damha, nabuslot ang ilang sakayan mga 20 nalang ka dupa gikan sa pantalan unya paspas kaayo nga nalunod ang sakayan.
ang usa kay nag-sige ug ampo nga naay molowas nila unya ang usa kay abtik kau nga nikuha sa galon ug giyabo ang sud nga tubig para iyang himuon nga gabayan.
unya sa inyong tan-aw, kinsa man ang maluwas?
ang nag-ampo o ang abtik na nikuha sa galon?

Lesson:

faith alone can't save you.
but what you do/did can.

[slabdans]

naay duha ka taw, nga pulos di kamao molangoy, ang nag-sakay sa sakayan (bangka nga de-bugsay).
sa wa nila damha, nabuslot ang ilang sakayan mga 20 nalang ka dupa gikan sa pantalan unya paspas kaayo nga nalunod ang sakayan.
ang usa kay nag-sige ug ampo nga naay molowas nila unya ang usa kay abtik kau nga nikuha sa galon ug giyabo ang sud nga tubig para iyang himuon nga gabayan.
unya sa inyong tan-aw, kinsa man ang maluwas?
ang nag-ampo o ang abtik na nikuha sa galon?

Lesson:

faith alone can't save you.
but what you do/did can.

depende unsay perspective nimo sa salvation / save /kaluwasan akong nahibaw-an inyo pasabot sa kaluwasan unya namag mamatay ka

[RayGunz]

Nindot kaayo nga inputs naa sa ibabaw to finally trim down the argument.

Granting ang gipangandoy nga kaluwasan moabot inig kamatay, so, pila man kuno ninyo diri naay kaliwat namatay unya naningkamot ug pamaagi pagsugilon ninyo nga naluwas or hapit ra siya naluwas?

Even our very own dead mothers never bothered to tell us that she had/hadn't salvation after death.

Congrats to people who believes this salvation crap.

[Dwardzed]

Maayo man pud na with a believers perspective, tiaw mo na nga nay mata gatan-aw nimo everytime, kaysa anang pulis nga palabyon lang, medyo naay influential guidelines ang mga believers ining puntoha.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

The question "Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works too?" is a personal question that each of us has different answers, especially, that each of us has different religion.

No, it's not personal because it's not up to us, rather, what does the bible say.

But if I will be asked, my answer would be... "Why do you need to be saved?"

Good question. We need to be saved because we rebelled against God and there is hostility between man and God. We must flee from the wrath to come.