Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[GreyGargoyle]

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ST. THERESA OF CALCUTTA

[Archon]

For the record im a Christian unya Reformed akong theology.

ako lang ni gi test ang obang tubag sa mga peeps dri to see if kasabot ba gyud sila sa ilang theology.

anyway para nako ...

kanang James gi defined dha ang klase nga faith nga tinood, w/c is accompanied by good works. now dili na mo conflict sa Ephesians kay ang emphasis sa Ephesians is salvation, ang James is faith.

ang makaluwas nato is ang grasya sa Ginoo...

pinaagi sa atong pagtoo...

pero unsa nga klase nga pagtoo? ...

katong pagtoo nga tinood ...

unsaon nato pagkabalo nga tinood ang pagtoo sa osa ka tao? pinaagi sa iyang buhat.

BUT di ang maayong buhat ang maka luwas niya , but ang iyang faith evidenced by his good works.

[MasterK]

unsaon nato pagkabalo nga tinood ang pagtoo sa osa ka tao? pinaagi sa iyang buhat.

BUT di ang maayong buhat ang maka luwas niya , but ang iyang faith evidenced by his good works.

...libog ko dah

... kinahanglan pa gyud diay ang "evidenced" brad?

[Archon]

...libog ko dah

... kinahanglan pa gyud diay ang "evidenced" brad?

o coz mao man ang naka suwat sa James hehe.

lisod man pod kung igo ra ta mosulti nga naa tay pagtoo but wa sa buhat. but kanang buhat di na requirement sa kaluwasan but ebidensya na sa imong pagtoo.

[MasterK]

o coz mao man ang naka suwat sa James hehe.

lisod man pod kung igo ra ta mosulti nga naa tay pagtoo but wa sa buhat. but kanang buhat di na requirement sa kaluwasan but ebidensya na sa imong pagtoo.

hahaha cge boss kasabot nako...

basta iningleson diay "dili requirements" pero kung binisay-on "Kinahanglan ang ebidensya"

[Archon]

hahaha cge boss kasabot nako...

basta iningleson diay "dili requirements" pero kung binisay-on "Kinahanglan ang ebidensya"

yes

ebidensya sa pagtoo.

[GreyGargoyle]

[Archon]

The Apostles.

Seek it among the Apostles...but wait they're dead, nah , they are alive in their writings.

[luci_morningstar]

only one religious istoryan that i truly respect for he can stand both on the scientific and religious side of things - boss @noy ..


but as for you ... you're so blinded on your little book that you forgot to view the "Facts of Life" around us. i don't need to give you scientific proof, i suggest you expand your knowledge on everything not depend solely on that "Book" ..

I just ask you about Facts of Life, I ask you if your so called innate essence of right and wrong came from the single celled organism which Evolutionist or Atheist claimed we came from.

Already expanded my knowledge that's why i try to argue more on atheist than Theist, that's why i dont use bible verse to question your Belief.

[luci_morningstar]

What are you talking about Densio? You somewhat have a twisted interpretation of evolution, you are clearly misinformed.. the law of evolution is not survival of the strongest, it is in fact survival of the fittest through random selection, meaning that only the specie that has adapted well with his environment survives, mao bitawng naa pay mga ok-ok karon, strong diay nang ok-ok?.

One good adaptation is developing altruistric characteristics, species also survive because of altruism, they give birth, care and protect their young, they go about in herds or community, follow certain sets of intrinsic rules, protect their peers, protect their territories, and they do it without even having the need to talk, we happen to be the only specie that can put words in things such as love and feelings of hate, etc.., but that does not mean nga kita ray naa ana,. that's altruism, and that's what we have intrinsically also,.. if magsalig pka'g bibliya para mabut-an ka, then you should talk to a shrink..

inyong bible open for interpretation? did your god not tell you to lean not on your own understanding?

What about empathy that you were saying? is that part of Evolution?

Humans are naturally born empathetic and altruistic towards others, Wheres your scientific data on this?
Does the theory of evolution supports this Behavior of the early Humans? or animals?

Do you have scientific Data that during the Evolution of Man and animals, Empathy is already there and it helps them Survive? or its natural?

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let me repeat again my question...

apart from the bible do you have any other basis to your claim that salvation is by faith?

You can use simple Logic.

When God said All MAN have sinned and LOST the Glory of God.

But God said You can be saved. So unsay nakapa save Nimu BUHAT lang diay ghapon nga Nahagbong naman ka ana nga Criteria.