Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[cobraKing]

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why does money come along with religion?

[luci_morningstar]

a lot of self-proclaimed prophets here who think they can get away with just sitting their a**es off and do nothing.. pfft..

The issue we are talking here is - If Good Works is a REQUIREMENT or is an EFFECT of Faith. Nowhere you can Read in any of the Theist Saying YOU DONT HAVE TO DO Good works anymore(or do bad things). Good work is Part of Theist life, the only question is whether its a Requirement of salvation or an Expression of Faith. You kinda lost in translation there.

[luci_morningstar]

why does money come along with religion?

Money comes along with everything. Money is like a double edge sword. Sadly, most religious leaders are corrupted because of money. That's why Jesus says give to Cesar what belongs to Cesar, But i think most Religious leaders dont agree

You can almost immediately tell if a Religion is Good or Not based on their attitude towards money and wealth.

[whiteKelso]

unfortunately bro, yes.. because God is so perfect that even the most charitable person in the world has its own flaws whether big and small and that disqualifies him to go to heaven and he will pay it in hell. All our good works are like filthy rags in the eyes of God.

but the good news is God so loved the world that He gave his own Son, a perfect one without sin to be in place for the punishment, so that we will be saved from going to hell. We just have to accept and believe that He is the perfect sacrifice. We must invite Him into our life as our Lord in our daily lives that even we still commit mistakes, Jesus still forgives us and he paid your sins yesterday, today, and tomorrow and get some help of Him to recover from our every mistake we will commit.

and also when you invite Jesus into your life, it would be more easier to do good works, but it is not what qualifies you to heaven, it is your faith.

hey rics salved, il give you some hint, there are holy men that dont recognize jesus as his saviour..and you think they go
to hell? you must be ashamed of yourself for throwing some falsehoods..

[whiteKelso]

Based on the Idea of Salvation in the Bible, Faith means having to Belief in God, Love God, and Follow God.

Having No Faith in God even with those teachings you heard Simply Means You Don't Want to Be With GOD after you Die. So if you don't want to be with God Now, then Why would God Save you and Bring you to Heaven and Live with Him?

But it will be God who will decide when we face him after we Die.

i dont want to be with God? how could you say that, you dont even know me...

[luci_morningstar]

i dont want to be with God? how could you say that, you dont even know me...

As I said, based on the teachings from the bible, Having NO Faith or without Faith in God is the same as Dont believe in Him, Dont Like Him and Dont want to be with Him.

You ask the question "what about without faith", And I said "IF" meaning If you're the One Without Faith. Im Not Judging you personally

[whiteKelso]

As I said, based on the teachings from the bible, Having NO Faith or without Faith in God is the same as Dont believe in Him, Dont Like Him and Dont want to be with Him.

You ask the question "what about without faith", And I said "IF" meaning If you're the One Without Faith. Im Not Judging you personally

not all are like that luci_morningstar.. i respect your religion..

dont believe and i dont like has different meaning..

i dont believe coz i just dont believe not because i dont like it, its just plain unbelief..

see what i mean?

[Kenshiro]

Faith is the key to good works. As Christians we are commissioned to do the greatest work:

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen."
Matthew 28:16-20

[rics zalved]

hey rics salved, il give you some hint, there are holy men that dont recognize jesus as his saviour..and you think they go
to hell? you must be ashamed of yourself for throwing some falsehoods..

what do you bro that there are holy people without recognizing Jesus? by what standards?

many claim that they are good, holy, something like that, but they still realize that they are only people and make mistakes...remember that God is very holy and perfect that even a slightest sin can send you to hell...so they must recognize Jesus as their saviour to be saved from condemnation.

that is why Christians are comissioned by Jesus to preach his word throughout the world and to pray to every people that they may come God as a sinner, forget being self righteous, forget to count the good works, and humble themself and recognize that they deserve a punishment so that God would clean them forever.

[luci_morningstar]

not all are like that luci_morningstar.. i respect your religion..

dont believe and i dont like has different meaning..

i dont believe coz i just dont believe not because i dont like it, its just plain unbelief..

see what i mean?

I respect your Unbelief

But my question is, Why would you ask What God will do to you or to someone who Don't even Believe in Him? Whats the Purpose?

it seems the question is self defeating or a trick