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  1. #21

    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    You mean your supplements are essential to humans? Of all the species on earth, we are the only ones who need supplements to stay healthy? I know you are promoting USANA but to say those supplements are needed by everyone is just misinformation. I'm not saying they are bad but they are not essential to be healthy.
    i know how you feel, thats what i thought about also before. and yes i am promoting Usana but im not being misinformed.
    like i said, to be healthy you need 3 things. Diet Exercise and Supplementation. it is essential to be healthy nowadays since almost all we are eating is already not enough.

    now that you mentioned it. all of us including the other species on earth needs supplements. thats why there are supplements for the animals, for the plants, etc. all are essential.

    question. when you got a head ache would you just rest or ignore it til its gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    4 out of 10 patients of a gastroentorologist (US trained) I know of, in Chong Hua, have random liver disease because of HERBAL & FOOD SUPPLEMENTS! That is a big number.

    Paleo/Whole Foods can make a difference. Why can't people adapt the primal way of living? It is so easy preparing your own real foods and exercise/play sports that you like regularly. It is also very easy to eliminate cakes/ice creams/chips/fruit shakes/fruit juices/baked goods and stuffs etc. from your diet.
    yes it is rampant that the main cause of liver disease is the missuse of Herbal And FOOD supplements! thats why peopleshould be aware.

    you can do paleo/ keto and all kinds of diet, but still you need to do supplementation.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Angelo937 View Post
    i know how you feel, thats what i thought about also before. and yes i am promoting Usana but im not being misinformed.
    like i said, to be healthy you need 3 things. Diet Exercise and Supplementation. it is essential to be healthy nowadays since almost all we are eating is already not enough.

    now that you mentioned it. all of us including the other species on earth needs supplements. thats why there are supplements for the animals, for the plants, etc. all are essential.

    question. when you got a head ache would you just rest or ignore it til its gone?

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    yes it is rampant that the main cause of liver disease is the missuse of Herbal And FOOD supplements! thats why peopleshould be aware.

    you can do paleo/ keto and all kinds of diet, but still you need to do supplementation.
    I stand corrected... some plants and animals now are supplemented because they have been genetically modified or brought to places that are not their natural habitat. But supplements still are not essential us. I would rather buy real food than buying those expensive suppliments. People doing paleo dont recommend supplements unless the person has a deffiency. They encourage excercise and few minutes of exposure to sunlight. Many testimonies of people doing paleo stopped taking meds and supplements after sometime. I myself have been doing paleo for 3 years and so far so good. I have not taken any medicine and vaccines since the change. Our bodies have the ability to heal itself and its boosted when you eat food that humans eat naturally. You can visit Pete Evan's facebook page and see many great results of Paleo diet.
    https://www.facebook.com/paleochefpeteevans/
    Last edited by erwin_rommel; 07-11-2016 at 05:05 PM.

  3. #23
    Amazon tribesmen and other indigenous tribes in some rain forest in SEA have a hell of an immune cells not even the deadly malaria and dengue strains can penetrate their insides and they dont have supplements whatsoever. We have forgotten how we developed our vaccines and anti-bacterial medications. A rather simple way of living harmoniously and healthfully is EAT what the earth gives. I haven't supplemented myself for 10 years since I've learned primal living advised by doctors who are acquaintances of mine. I only take meds when the pain is seriously bothering already e.g. toothache, muscle pains, fractured bone etc., and Im glad to tell you that I haven't had any serious infections (viral and bacterial) in 10 years time too, well, probably luck.

    I am not trying to discredit health supplements, they are, of course, good when all ingredients are natural and not synthetic, but not basically needed when one has access to a variety of fruits and vegetables on a daily basis. In addition to this, your blood cholesterol and blood sugar/insulin sensitivity are well and normal.
    Last edited by brownie; 07-11-2016 at 04:28 PM.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    Amazon tribesmen and other indigenous tribes in some rain forest in SEA have a hell of an immune cells not even the deadly malaria and dengue strains can penetrate their insides and they dont have supplements whatsoever. We have forgotten how we developed our vaccines and anti-bacterial medications. A rather simple way of living harmoniously and healthfully is EAT what the earth gives. I haven't supplemented myself for 10 years since I've learned primal living advised by doctors who are acquaintances of mine. I only take meds when the pain is seriously bothering already e.g. toothache, muscle pains, fractured bone etc., and Im glad to tell you that I haven't had any serious infections (viral and bacterial) in 10 years time too, well, probably luck.

    I am not trying to discredit health supplements, they are, of course, good when all ingredients are natural and not synthetic, but not basically needed when one has access to a variety of fruits and vegetables on a daily basis. In addition to this, your blood cholesterol and blood sugar/insulin sensitivity are well and normal.
    congratulations on your great health. i guessed you have refrained yourself from coming out of your house, got in to traffic, stressed a lot at work, at fruits and vegetables produced at your own backyard, lived in seclusion, stayed away from processed foods. =)

    im not trying to discredit the fact that there are others who dont take supplements. just think, you take meds when you are in pain. thats another way of supplementation. its just that you are using "meds" to suppress it. not supplements. its the same thing.

    anyway, this debate wont get anywhere unless one of us gives in. hehehe i know you wont, i know i wont either =)

    no hard feelings.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    I stand corrected... some plants and animals now are supplemented because they have been genetically modified or brought to places that are not their natural habitat. But supplements still are not essential us. I would rather buy real food than buying those expensive suppliments. People doing paleo dont recommend supplements unless the person has a deffiency. They encourage excercise and few minutes of exposure to sunlight. Many testimonies of people doing paleo stopped taking meds and supplements after sometime. I myself have been doing paleo for 3 years and so far so good. I have not taken any medicine and vaccines since the change. Our bodies have the ability to heal itself and its boosted when you eat food that humans eat naturally. You can visit Pete Evan's facebook page and see many great results of Paleo diet.
    https://www.facebook.com/paleochefpeteevans/
    im not against paleo or any diets but the fact that nutrients in our soil has been depleted due to abusive use, food nowadays just simply isnt the same as the ones our ancestors have before. so normally we are deficient. =)

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Angelo937 View Post
    congratulations on your great health. i guessed you have refrained yourself from coming out of your house, got in to traffic, stressed a lot at work, at fruits and vegetables produced at your own backyard, lived in seclusion, stayed away from processed foods. =)

    im not trying to discredit the fact that there are others who dont take supplements. just think, you take meds when you are in pain. thats another way of supplementation. its just that you are using "meds" to suppress it. not supplements. its the same thing.

    anyway, this debate wont get anywhere unless one of us gives in. hehehe i know you wont, i know i wont either =)

    no hard feelings.
    Im sorry but I go out of my house a lot. More than you can imagine. I am mostly stuck at traffic driving during peak hours and lost a lot of money on gas but how am I supplementing myself when I take Ibuprofen like ONCE every 5 months or so after a heavy MovNat and Ido Portal?

    I am going to discredit you, the fact that your argument lacks substantial reason and then comes back with almost every word you just wrote translates to me being an anti-social guy who goes out just to pee in my front yard. I maybe lucky to have owned a big lot, planted herbs and legumes of many kinds thru hydroponics guided by my college professor but I just can't believe you made such a personal strike.

    That being said, nobody will believe your USANA anymore. But you tried to convince everybody tho, great effort.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Angelo937 View Post
    im not against paleo or any diets but the fact that nutrients in our soil has been depleted due to abusive use, food nowadays just simply isnt the same as the ones our ancestors have before. so normally we are deficient. =)
    unless you have money to buy those expensive supplements, it's better to buy real food.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    Im sorry but I go out of my house a lot. More than you can imagine. I am mostly stuck at traffic driving during peak hours and lost a lot of money on gas but how am I supplementing myself when I take Ibuprofen like ONCE every 5 months or so after a heavy MovNat and Ido Portal?

    I am going to discredit you, the fact that your argument lacks substantial reason and then comes back with almost every word you just wrote translates to me being an anti-social guy who goes out just to pee in my front yard. I maybe lucky to have owned a big lot, planted herbs and legumes of many kinds thru hydroponics guided by my college professor but I just can't believe you made such a personal strike.

    That being said, nobody will believe your USANA anymore. But you tried to convince everybody tho, great effort.
    like i said this debate wont get anywhere. i didnt make any personal strike against you. i dont know you much and you mentioned about amazon tribesmen and indigenous people so i am assuming/ guessing you are doing the same thing. if that insults you then i apologise.

    one more thing, i dont have to convince everybody about our company USANA, they have already proven themselves. we are just messengers out to share the world what we view about cellular nutrition. i am here to share to you what i know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    unless you have money to buy those expensive supplements, it's better to buy real food.
    i know some need not to be expensive. its just a case of being misinformed.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Angelo937 View Post
    like i said this debate wont get anywhere. i didnt make any personal strike against you. i dont know you much and you mentioned about amazon tribesmen and indigenous people so i am assuming/ guessing you are doing the same thing. if that insults you then i apologise.

    one more thing, i dont have to convince everybody about our company USANA, they have already proven themselves. we are just messengers out to share the world what we view about cellular nutrition. i am here to share to you what i know.

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    i know some need not to be expensive. its just a case of being misinformed.
    prices of your usana products are just ridiculous. You can already buy good quality and nutritious foods with that amount. I have heard things about that cellular nutrition from different MLM companies but it sound more like a sales talk. Even if you take all of your supplements but still eat processed food, fast food and foods that spikes your blood sugar levels all the time, your diabetes will not be solved. But again I'm not saying they are bad though they are overly priced and very few people in our country could afford. Most people who take your combo packs need to get loans just to buy them.

    Good luck with your usana. take advantage of it while its market is still not yet saturated. Usually those MLM companies go silent after a few years. My teacher once became a director of cosway. It was very strong at first and she was awarded with a car in less than a year. Then after few years, it went bust and she was heavily in debt.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    Im sorry but I go out of my house a lot. More than you can imagine. I am mostly stuck at traffic driving during peak hours and lost a lot of money on gas but how am I supplementing myself when I take Ibuprofen like ONCE every 5 months or so after a heavy MovNat and Ido Portal?

    I am going to discredit you, the fact that your argument lacks substantial reason and then comes back with almost every word you just wrote translates to me being an anti-social guy who goes out just to pee in my front yard. I maybe lucky to have owned a big lot, planted herbs and legumes of many kinds thru hydroponics guided by my college professor but I just can't believe you made such a personal strike.

    That being said, nobody will believe your USANA anymore. But you tried to convince everybody tho, great effort.
    some people just dont get it and still insists on what they believe... dili ra kay diri na naghasik ug lagim... sauna dipahalata until ako gibuking... if ganahan sila mo market adto tana sa B&S section or mag himo ug thread ug dili mang hijack

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