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  1. #21

    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    ironically we already have 117 (manage by DILG) however wala ma centralized...
    sa bohol naa na silay Tarsier 117, same ra sad sa 911 ang services pero dili pa kaau hitech.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by edoy View Post
    unless kung dual mode imong unit , land based ug satellite based connection kay connected ka everywhere.
    exactly then this is phone would be expensive pretty sure... though are phone already in market that is a hybrid cellphone + 2-way radio (2m/70cm VHF/UHF) so far ako nakit-an kay china made... naay mga after market accessories though is more like FRS/GMRS walkie talkie.. line of sight only...

  3. #23
    Actually the Emergency 117 is decent enough. I've used this service over my phone several times. Ang problema lang jud sa 117 is ireroute lang jud ka sa local police station since I believe is Manila ang ila central operation. Usahay dugay sad makabalik tawag ang responder kay siguro dugay sad nakontak ang station.

    The last time I used 117, I was able to talk to the chief fire martial sa among lungsod. And after 20mins, mao pay pag-abot sa mga responders together with CEBECO kay kato ako case kay linya's kuryente nga naputol...

  4. #24
    the integration of a centralized database of all Filipinos or people living sa Pinas nga pwede mo gamit sa 911 is kinda hard, murag integral calculus nga naay limits from 1 to infinity.

    two parts.

    1. we need that database - kanang updated for ID verification sa tanang mugamit sa service, if binuang or dili which should be coming from legit entity, sa government dapat pero as of this moment doubtful nga naa ta ani..ex: ka balita mo sa kahasol sa comelec? tungod sa way klarong database management.

    2. telco - well, kani nga part dili kaayo if i'm to say coming from a telco guy, sa aspect nga IT integration at least. but in terms of coverage, medyo lisod kay need man jud ni ug signal. kung via SatCom mahal, kung plainly Cellular Communication di kaayo 100% covered ang Pinas by any network.

    ang interconnectivity, reliability & security is mostly needed.

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    nindot ni sugdan.bisag hinay2 lng..masinati rajud nato ni nga kausaban puhon2

  6. #26
    IT grads, prepare CV.

  7. #27
    Daghana usa ang mga paramedics of course with well equipped ambulances and more firemen/policemen with appropriate equipment and transpo, if not then 911 will never effectively work.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by pepponeskie View Post
    sa bohol naa na silay Tarsier 117, same ra sad sa 911 ang services pero dili pa kaau hitech.
    tinuod gyud na. usahay dili dayon ka responde.

  9. #29
    ngano karon raman gi sugdan... sauna ngano wla nabuhat kay abi DU30 na presidency....

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    Why using apps is not a good idea?

    1) Cohesive technology that requires devices that is capable to run the apps, majority of filipinos dont have smartphone.

    2) Smartphone GPS uses cellsite to triangulate location of the device, if you are in an area where there few cellsite or no tower for your network, coordinates is not accurate. Smartphone GPS is not really GPS that uses GPS sattelite

    3) Smartphone GPS requires internet for it to worked properly and provide the geocode of the location. See reason #1.

    4) Not all cellsite are capable of relaying data connection. Hence some areas in PH dont have internet.

    5) Relying too much on apps, is pure stupidity.

    I've heard this song many times before, but when the actual event happen wala ra gihapon silbi... naa nay mga tool to help people communicate in times of calamity... but when yolanda hits... walay pulos kay all network is down... apps are there to augment not replace.
    I have a comment about your GPS explanation sa smartphone br0.

    "Smartphone GPS is not really GPS that uses GPS sattelite"...

    I would not say this is correct. Most smartphones (especially mid to high-end) already have GPS receivers built-in.

    In order to prove this, remove your SIM Card and disable WIFI to make sure wala ka internet connection. After that, turn on GPS / Location Services.

    Open a TEST APP e.g. GPS Test in Android...You will see that the phone receives update from GPS Satellites. As soon as it receives enough information, GPS fixes (you are outside and not inside a confined space or building, clear skies so that tiny GPS receiver in the phone can receive the signal from satellites orbiting in space), your location shall be shown in Long/Lat coordinates.

    So dili true bai na GPS fix needs Internet connection. I think you mean of Assisted-GPS (A-GPS) which of course utilizes help from Cellular as well as Wi-Fi networks to determine location faster and more accurately because it can counter check.

    Triangulation of location based on Cell Sites here in PH (would also depend if Telco operators enable it, according to a friend working as RF engineer in a major telco here, they aren't) is not even that accurate especially in mountainous areas wherein the Cell sites are spaced from each other very far apart. That is why, the dedicated GPS receiver in the smartphone is needed.

    I knew the difference because I have owned a smartphone long before Android and IOS became mainstream. I used to have a phone that doesn't have dedicated GPS receiver and you need to download an updated setting/config every 2-3 days in order to determine Long/Lat Coordinates. I think that's what you mean in your #3 point, but that was what used to be before, right now not true anymore.

    On topic, yes...this 911 system being presented by Pureforce is just another way to promote their company. But beyond that, I believe this 911 system can be implemented in the Government as long as the persons in-charge has the political will to do it.

    That specific #, 911 is just a matter of mutual agreement on all Telco Operators here in the country to definitely provision it as the main emergency hotline, free of charge to anybody that uses it. And yes, the app is just supposed to supplement, calling or even texting emergency cases and let the appropriate authorities and responders become aware of the situation.
    Last edited by silentnuker; 06-02-2016 at 02:36 AM.

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