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    NO to contractualization!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boyq View Post
    NO to contractualization!
    i doubt. its part of the business practice of Fluor, mo withdaw Fluor nya adto sila sa India daghan ta walay trabajo. its your choice.
    you know construction specially EPC is dependent sa E&C sector, unlike as ubang industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsunade View Post
    i doubt. its part of the business practice of Fluor, mo withdaw Fluor nya adto sila sa India daghan ta walay trabajo. its your choice.
    bitaw... maski sa laing industry/sector, inani gyud ang scenario...

    grabe ning bombay, halos kuhaon na tanan trabaho kay barato gyud kaayo sila didto... mas barato pa sila sa china, ang china mahal nasad ron especially kung sa IT industry... pero bombay aw grabe gyud ka barato oi...

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    mao na diha, dili ta pwede maka diretso2x diha ug sulti "no to contractualization"... daghan pang butang dapat angay e consider

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    nag-hiring ba ang flour mga sir? heheh Electrical Engineering akong field

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    Naa diay contractual sa Flour?

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    My view if "No Contractualization" is implemented in the Company:

    1. It is possible, but with compromises

    2. Starting salary maybe driven lower.
    The government can mandate no casual contracts, but they can't directly change a private company's compensation system.

    3. If probationary is the starting member status, it could be prolonged from 6 months to 1 whole year or more for example.

    4. Recruitment could be tighter. Since an applicant can be offered as proby immediately, the Company might require greater skill sets and may choose persons with real experiences.

    Bottomline:
    No Contractual does not mean you get to be Regular faster because the duration of Probationary can be adjusted.
    It does not also mean you get to have a higher pay early in your career because the starting pay can be adjusted.
    What it does offer though are the superior HMO, Insurance, and other De Minimis benefits given by the Company for members under Probationary that were not available for Contractual members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeass View Post
    nag-hiring ba ang flour mga sir? heheh Electrical Engineering akong field
    sa flour wala.
    sa Fluor kay freeze/on-hold pa ang hiring for electrical.

  9. #1479
    Quote Originally Posted by shryock View Post
    My view if "No Contractualization" is implemented in the Company:



    3. If probationary is the starting member status, it could be prolonged from 6 months to 1 whole year or more for example.





    Art. 281. Probationary employment. Probationary employment shall not exceed six (6) months from the date the employee started working, unless it is covered by an apprenticeship agreement stipulating a longer period. The services of an employee who has been engaged on a probationary basis may be terminated for a just cause or when he fails to qualify as a regular employee in accordance with reasonable standards made known by the employer to the employee at the time of his engagement. An employee who is allowed to work after a probationary period shall be considered a regular employee.

    Pataka raman kag yawit nga ang "Probationary Employee" pwede mo exceed ug 6 months or more para ma regular siya.

    Lahi raman na sa "Project Based Employee" nga "co-terminus" ang imong employment sa allotted project. Kung "Project Based" ka, bisan 1-5 years paka employed sa company, walay obligasyon ang company nga e regular ka.

    Unlike if ang imong ge pirmahan "PROBATIONARY", 6 months ra jud imong limit.... whether ma regular ka or dismissed ka sa work. Or else pwede ka mo file ug kaso sa DOLE.

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    dna lang ta maglalis anang contractualization oie. pero if e duso gyud na sa government. cyempre murag naa man pud gyud nay negative consequences sa atoa bah wala palang na nakit.e kay ang una gitan.aw nato ang kaayuhan rman sa "no contractuals"

    kung wala nata kauyon sa pamaagi sa companya (ex. contractualization) pwede rman kaau ta mangita ug lain sd gyud bah. saon tman mao manay pamaagi diri.

    just my 2cents

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