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  1. #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Ac View Post
    I didn't know naa diay mga ANTI-VACCINES diri istorya...

    Remember POLIO guys? Remember Small Pox? Come on.... Take off your tin foil hats

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    Goodness how gullible you are. You're harming your own daughter because of your beliefs. IF and WHEN your daughter gets sick of a disease that could have been preventable because of vaccines, you only have yourself to blame. Keep your radical and wrong beliefs to yourself


    PS:
    Your sources are YOUTUBE VIDEOS. So they MUST be true right? /sarcasm
    As would be expected, there would be pro vaccine who would gain a lot of profit specially in the medical industry or that they are being "told what is good", without any research.
    But I respect your opinion, since I respect free choice. I noticed that these are very old pictures, however Polio was never eradicated by vaccines it was due to improved sanitation, in fact Polio vaccines contains traces SV40 monkey virus and the leading cause of Paralytic Polio.

    "But in 2011 alone, the Bill and Melinda Gates’ polio vaccine campaign in India caused 47,500 cases of paralysis and death."
    India "polio-free" amid rise in acute flaccid paralysis cases | Vaccination Information Network

    Bill Gates’ Polio Vaccine Program Eradicates Children, Not Polio
    Bill Gates’ Polio Vaccine Program Eradicates Children, Not Polio

    SV-40 Monkey Virus in Oral Polio Vaccine Causes Deadly Cancer
    SV-40 Monkey Virus in Oral Polio Vaccine Causes Deadly Cancer | Vaccination Information Network

    One question is what have I to gain with sharing these information.
    as opposed to promoting vaccines for profits.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bernard View Post
    Ang atong mama / papa / lolo / lola wala man gani ge vaccinate sa una.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    As much as possible stay away from vaccines. It weakens natural immunity and cause brain damage.
    They are your ticket to chronic diseases, frequent doctor visits.
    Natural immunity can always overcome minor childhood sickness given their immunity is not weakened by vaccines.
    It could also cause autism, speech delays, and other neurological damage. Hampers brain development due to its neurotixic ingredients and exitotoxins that exite the immunity and causes it to behave abnormaly.
    Please find time to research vaccine adverse reactions. My own daughter is 100% vaccine free 5 years old only visited doctor once, very smart and enjoying healthy childhood without chronic diseases, speech delays, completely normal development.

    https://youtu.be/7QBcMYqlaDs

    https://youtu.be/j8nrdybZZzA

    https://youtu.be/o_nWp6ZHA2Q
    Akong first nga anak autistic nagpa vaccine tanan then akong second nga anak gipa vaccine nako except sa MMR vaccine. Dili nalang nako ipa vaccine sa MMR sigoro kay naa lagi mga istorya naka cause sa autism, maka libog lagi kay ang mga doctor ang advice pa vaccine jud daw.

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    Sa ako lang ok ra ang uban vaccines except sa MMR.

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    Pero according sa CDC safe raman jud ang mga vaccines naa lang sigoro ma timingan churva.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by harhar View Post
    Akong first nga anak autistic nagpa vaccine tanan then akong second nga anak gipa vaccine nako except sa MMR vaccine. Dili nalang nako ipa vaccine sa MMR sigoro kay naa lagi mga istorya naka cause sa autism, maka libog lagi kay ang mga doctor ang advice pa vaccine jud daw.

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    Sa ako lang ok ra ang uban vaccines except sa MMR.

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    Pero according sa CDC safe raman jud ang mga vaccines naa lang sigoro ma timingan churva.
    As much as possible my suggestion is to stay away from vaccines completely, and introduce whole some vegetarian diet preferably organic. I know this is a challenge but I use this as a goal at least to minimize processed food intake, meat and maximize on fruits, vegetables and grains. This will more than keep up to their immunity and if they go through from these "preventable disease" given their strong immunity it would be in the mildest form in return they get lifelong immunity.

    Typical allopathic doctors are not educated with vaccine adverse reactions neither its in their literature. But they got all the backing, marketing and commissions from the pharmaceutical companies, recommending these vaccines, and they can be bullied to do so because their career might be in jeopardy for not practicing the "norm". No where in these process involves you child's health and safety only profit, commissions and careers.

    Vaccines reactions and diseases are very scarcely studied in the typical medical field that if you report it to them they would just shrug it off as normal even though it involves autism, brain damage, seizures and death (SIDS).
    One thing about the CDC is that has major conflicts of interest and its know for its corruption that its being controlled entirely by big pharmaceutical companies.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Ac View Post
    Vaccines aren't really fool proof but they do lessen your chance of contracting the disease significantly. If only one person gets vaccinated and ang iya mga kuyog wala, then dako gihapon chance nga magka sakit gihapon siya. Compared sa tanan nagpa vaccinate, then less likely nga mu abot ang mga sakit.

    My point is, vaccines DO help. And to preach nga dili maayo ang vaccines like what @Kenshiro is doing, is WRONG and irresponsible. This is not opinions like Politics, Religions etc nga there are no right or wrong answers. Vaccines are scientifically PROVEN. So yeah... I guess my point is to stop the fear mongering. Youtube videos aren't reliable sources.
    There's also these report nga HPV vaccines are not necessary (for women)... This is not necessary also. The reason naay mga babae (og lalaki) ma genital warts kay high risk na ang multiple s3x partners.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by harhar View Post
    Akong first nga anak autistic nagpa vaccine tanan then akong second nga anak gipa vaccine nako except sa MMR vaccine. Dili nalang nako ipa vaccine sa MMR sigoro kay naa lagi mga istorya naka cause sa autism, maka libog lagi kay ang mga doctor ang advice pa vaccine jud daw.

    Sa ako lang ok ra ang uban vaccines except sa MMR.

    [
    Basin dili to sa MMR bro... or basin na misdiagnose lang ang imong anak nga naay autism.... Normal raman nang uban bata naay late development. Kana pod uban doctors in connivance pod na sa mga PT / OT... instead of e assure ang parents mo ingon dayon nga autistic or naay big chance... NOT UNLESS imo silang e EARLY INTERVENTION... then e refer pod ka ug ka partner nga PT / OT. After 1-2 years ma normal na imong anak, mo ingon dayon nga tungod nila mao na dali ug tabang... Naa koy amigo ingon ana ang nahitabo sa ilang anak. hehehe!

    Pila man diay age sa imong anak?

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    As would be expected, there would be pro vaccine who would gain a lot of profit specially in the medical industry or that they are being "told what is good", without any research.
    But I respect your opinion, since I respect free choice. I noticed that these are very old pictures, however Polio was never eradicated by vaccines it was due to improved sanitation, in fact Polio vaccines contains traces SV40 monkey virus and the leading cause of Paralytic Polio.

    "But in 2011 alone, the Bill and Melinda Gates’ polio vaccine campaign in India caused 47,500 cases of paralysis and death."
    India "polio-free" amid rise in acute flaccid paralysis cases | Vaccination Information Network

    Bill Gates’ Polio Vaccine Program Eradicates Children, Not Polio
    Bill Gates’ Polio Vaccine Program Eradicates Children, Not Polio

    SV-40 Monkey Virus in Oral Polio Vaccine Causes Deadly Cancer
    SV-40 Monkey Virus in Oral Polio Vaccine Causes Deadly Cancer | Vaccination Information Network

    One question is what have I to gain with sharing these information.
    as opposed to promoting vaccines for profits.
    Oh my goodness. ALL OF YOUR SOURCES ARE FROM ANTI-VACCINATION SITES.

    Again, take off your tin foil hat. Not everything you read on the internet is true. You have nothing to gain but you are spreading false information that will harm society. Don't "RESPECT" my opinion. This is not an opinion. I am stating facts. What you believe is in the same level of stupidity sa FLAT EARTH believers. There's a reason that California enacted a LAW to vaccinate your kids! Disneyland had the WORST measles outbreak because of people like you who deny their kids vaccinations. I hope you HOME SCHOOL your daughter. She has NO PLACE in a classroom environment if she's not vaccinated. You will only harm other people's children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harhar View Post
    Akong first nga anak autistic nagpa vaccine tanan then akong second nga anak gipa vaccine nako except sa MMR vaccine. Dili nalang nako ipa vaccine sa MMR sigoro kay naa lagi mga istorya naka cause sa autism, maka libog lagi kay ang mga doctor ang advice pa vaccine jud daw.

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    Sa ako lang ok ra ang uban vaccines except sa MMR.

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    Pero according sa CDC safe raman jud ang mga vaccines naa lang sigoro ma timingan churva.
    Vaccines do not cause autism. That is fact.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Ac View Post
    Oh my goodness. ALL OF YOUR SOURCES ARE FROM ANTI-VACCINATION SITES.

    Again, take off your tin foil hat. Not everything you read on the internet is true. You have nothing to gain but you are spreading false information that will harm society. Don't "RESPECT" my opinion. This is not an opinion. I am stating facts. What you believe is in the same level of stupidity sa FLAT EARTH believers. There's a reason that California enacted a LAW to vaccinate your kids! Disneyland had the WORST measles outbreak because of people like you who deny their kids vaccinations. I hope you HOME SCHOOL your daughter. She has NO PLACE in a classroom environment if she's not vaccinated. You will only harm other people's children.

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    Vaccines do not cause autism. That is fact.
    Antivaccine souces Of course and there are lots of them well backed up with statistics because most parents who research about the dangers of vaccines are rising.

    "Only 14% of people in Disneyland measles outbreak were unvaccinated, but it's 100% their fault, claims propaganda"
    Learn more: Only 14% of people in Disneyland measles outbreak were unvaccinated, but it's 100% their fault, claims propaganda - NaturalNews.com

    "86% of those who caught measles at Disneyland were fully up to date on their MMR vaccinations for measles, mumps and rubella. This means that none of them should have gotten meales."

    They blame low vaccination rates among the area.
    They consider 86% vaccination rate as low, This is how ineffective vaccines are. Plus serious neurological and brain damage outweigh the risk.
    No they are not facts they are propaganda.
    Noticed the accelerated number of vaccines schedules in recent times parallel to increased autism rates among children.
    These are not internet only information but first hand experience, I used to be provax but my wife in their province noticed that on 2 of here neices 1 is vaxed and the other unvacced th vacced child is very sickly has frequent fevers and doctor visits, while the unvacced stayed healthy very active, playful very rare to doctor visit. Trusting her observetion opted out for vaccination completely with our child and no hospitalization only visited doctor once, completely healthy no health issues. I cant remember when she got her last fever.

    If you think vaccine can protect children then why so hysterical about the unvacced if the vacced are supposed to be "protected"? the answer would be vaccines are ineffective or has very minimal effect.
    Stereotyping debates is a waste of time.
    And I dont believe in a flat earth.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 03-06-2016 at 05:20 AM.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bernard View Post
    Basin dili to sa MMR bro... or basin na misdiagnose lang ang imong anak nga naay autism.... Normal raman nang uban bata naay late development. Kana pod uban doctors in connivance pod na sa mga PT / OT... instead of e assure ang parents mo ingon dayon nga autistic or naay big chance... NOT UNLESS imo silang e EARLY INTERVENTION... then e refer pod ka ug ka partner nga PT / OT. After 1-2 years ma normal na imong anak, mo ingon dayon nga tungod nila mao na dali ug tabang... Naa koy amigo ingon ana ang nahitabo sa ilang anak. hehehe!

    Pila man diay age sa imong anak?
    Confirmed autistic akong anak, 6 na cya ron. Sigoro dili tungod sa MMR pero mao lagi wala ta kahibaw unsa hinungdan. Mao may ingun sa uban pod gud naay link ang MMR sa autism.

    Na tirahan diay ug pang measles akong ika duha nga anak except sa mumps ug rebulla.

    Basin naa lang jud uban bata dili compatible sa MMR dayun mao ang side effect.

    Sa kini nga video ang bata sigi pag eye to eye contact pero after MMR dili na mo eye to eye mag lisud na.
    Last edited by harhar; 03-06-2016 at 11:06 AM.

  9. #39
    ^^ Dili ko suheto ana brod, pero if confirmed jud na autistic ang bata, epa PT / OT therapy lang jud.

    I believe even if naay minor or noticeable defects ang mga autistics... with proper training naa pod na sila heightened / superior skills nga ma contribute sa society.

  10. #40
    Question if MMR is not safe, Is staying away from MMR vaccine considered safer than getting sick with measles, mumps or rubella?

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