Bongbong Marcos to run as President

[gibra'al]

dios mio. yellow turds are spreading this pandemic mediocrity again.
aw sayop sayop. HAS BEEN diay oi. has been. present perfect tense.

aw! hahahaha

[Apollo24]

Nawala naman c Outhinking...

[PhakSheet]

Cory was the first sanctimonious phil. president. She did it all in the name of national reconciliation. Wa toud solid proof that the Aquino's have communist links only circumstantial evidences like Ninoy's absence during Plaza Miranda's bombing and freeing of Joma Sison. Cory's action was to undo everything what Marcos has done good or bad, but I believed she's done more harm in doing so than good for instance the scrapping of Bataan Nuclear Power Plant. Now we have the highest electricity rate in all of Southeast Asia, when she freed Joma too, communist hitmen were in rampage. Mao toy pag uso sa patay sa mga policemen sa Alex Bungcayao Brigade sa mid and late 80's. She was a stupid president just like her son.

Bro, Cory was not as stupid as her son. As what you've stated, "She did it all in the name of national reconciliation". The release of all the political prisoners during the time of Marcos (including Joma Sison) was part of it. The only problem was that they did not force the CPP-NPA to lay lay down their arms as a pre-requisite in releasing the CPP-NPA prisoners.

With regards to the "the scrapping of Bataan Nuclear Power Plant", that plant was actually sitting under a fault line. That was actually a bad choice of location considering that the fault lines were not considered upon its construction. Thus, there was fear that a nation-wide disaster might occur in case the fault lines move if it will be allowed to operate. That fear was fueled by the Chernobyl Disaster which occurred on April of 1986.

[yhokz101]

Yes, that was an "infamous" human rights violation because the media are free to spread the news. Unlike during the Marcos era when the bad news were suppress. That was very hard to accept since it happened during the time of Cory. However, you have to look at the root cause of the problem.

Root cause of the problem is the same as what happened to any other similar events. Regardless of being an infamous incident or not, it did happen not to mentioned many attempts of coup d etat and the rise of communist insurgency in our country during Cory's time, plus JOMA was released so there was that.

The data is much more acceptable for me instead of a quote from someone who was one of the individuals used by Marcos in order for them to have a reason to implement Martial Law. A certified balimbing who revolted against Marcos knowing that the dictator's demise was about tp come.

As I've said, if you could show me a data, I might believe you. Anyway, if you are going to a data here, the comparison must be between the current ratio against the ratio during the end of Marcos era.

Yes considering he was a balimbing and sided to the yellow, he can still comment or give statement like that. Must be some truth on it. Retreiving data is mere impossible for comparison. We'll just leave it here, just do what you think is right it really doesnt matter anyway, comaprison is irrelevant considering surging of elect bills nowadays is skyhigh and that's our common problem.

Honestly, I am disappointed with this argument of yours. Actually, I am happy that I was one of those who experienced having NutriBun. However, you can't give credit to Marcos for that one. It's just like giving credit to a Barangay Captain for having his Barangay to be on the route of the National Highway project of the National Government.

You have a point, but the point here is that the NUtriBun program happened during that time. It ease the people and esp childrens hunger in some way. Regardess of where that came from or an AID from aother country, let's settle to appreciate it did happen during those time. It has a positive impact and most importantly it did helped. Need to give credits to both of course, AID is just an AID but without proper distribution and program it wont be an effective initiative. Don't you agree?

To rate the accomplishment of a president, you should not just selectively pick a span of time during his term but for the whole span of his term. It was evident that he did good during his first term. But how about the rest of his term?

Anyway, as what I've said in my previous post, the positive effect was brought by the heavy spending through loans from international financial institutions. By the time that the loan matures, the burden of paying comes. And if the loans were not efficiently spent coupled with a possibility that the expected results will not be achieved, then you will have problems in paying the loans as the return of the investments made will not be enough to pay the scheduled payments. And that was what happened wherein the worst case, Marcos was forced to lobby for additional loans just for the payment of the interest. If you are familiar with credit cards, you can imagine how big the problem is when that time comes.

Also, the big remittance from OFWs is not an indicator of progress. It only shows that the government failed to provide good opportunities locally for its citizens. It causes brain drain that instead of using their knowledge and skills here, they are forced to give their services in other countries.

The rate of an accomplishment by any individual or any body is rated by what impact it generates from previous generations up to now whether in infrastructure, economic programs, etc. Did we continue to enjoy the benefits and outcome? There are lots to consider, but then those whole era of marcos were not all praises. THere are ups and downs, like what Ive said many times. Debts accumulated due to heavry spending on infrastructures and everything, but way not properly planned when payment comes. This is not a rare case from any country, you can also see it happened to other country much more they declare bankruptcy.

The OFW big remittance fro OFW is certainly a factor on uplifting the economy, dont go be like Pnoy pls. Steady inflow of remittances enables the country to buy more foreign goods and services. This also means that it is now in a more comfortable position to service its external debt and other international obligations. With this comes the recognition that the nation’s finances have improved. Make no mistake to discredit OFW's remittance bro.

[Apollo24]

Maypa c OUTthinking yhokz murag nakasabot na unsay tinuod, pinaage sa iyang Link na gishare*Turmoil and Triumph: The George Shultz Years -- Reagan Years ikaw sad yhokz101 balik-balikon pa ni nimo basa imong nakuha na article... Dili jud ni Bias kay gikan man ni nimo....*marcos era

[yhokz101]

My concern (or fear) is that BBM will be a divisive figure, simply because of what he will inevitably do for his family's sake: i.e. Libingan ng mga Bayani, re-writing history, taking out EDSA from our list of holidays...and perhaps get the entire country to acknowledge that EDSA was a mistake. I can understand that. All I'm saying is that those things will not be accomplished without, to put it mildly, stiff opposition.

If BBM makes the ultimate sacrifice and say he will not pursue all those things, he gets my VOTE. At that point, I mean that act alone would speak volume about his grasp of national priorities and interests.

You concern is the same as anyone who is careful enough not to put emotion into selecting their sacred vote. Let's hope not for this will only divide the people like what has happened from previous (present) administration. Blames after blames... and I do believe BBM from what he is saying that he prioritize on uniting the people, he would rather focus on serving the people than living in the past.

[kolz]

Bro, who would ever say we would want martial law to happen again? Let's face it, some of us here are defending the marcos in some extent and BBM's candicacy for VP. Did anyone here mentioned on having martial law is recommended sa karon na age? Wala man di ba? SO pls dont be so martial law-phobia, and focus what is the matter on hand. This is a thread topic on BBM, do you think he can declare martial law as VP? Be realistic. Past is past, you can never forget it but pls move on. I know your sentiment honestly but dont taint this thread sa image sa martial law, we are not talking about Ferdinand Marcos here anyway.

Comment lang ko sa imong freedom, tinuod naa tay freedom but what does it do if rampant ang krimen ug linient ang balaud sa mga kriminal? Look and what does it brings us for being so "free".. on the other hand we can do soo much with freedom, only when twisted and corrupt mind it become a liability. The media? True enough freedom of expression is precious, but what we can observed is a biased if not controlled main stream media by the oligarchs to serve their personal agenda and purpose. Too much of something is really dangerous afterall.

Bro, BBM's candidacy for VP is like scratching old wounds, and I have to say my old wound runs deep. You can't blame me for being martial law-probic. That single incident has defined me and my character, it has remained ingrained in memory and can not be erased. Past is past and we have to move on, true, but have we truly learned the lessons of our past? Some here even argued that past horrors of the Marcos regime didn't even exist - and that makes me mad as one having experienced it first-hand.

We could argue about BBM's character and his candidacy for VP in order to stick to the topic, but time and again posters here would refer to FM's regime and the past - and that includes you. If BBM is truly a man of character, then I suggest he better not make continuous reference to his late father's regime or the martial law years every time he make public appearances. A true man of character would stand on his own merit and not credit his being on the deeds or misdeeds of his father - he must fully come to his own. But BBM continually makes references in a like-father-like-son attitude, even during his proclamation statement when he decided to run as VP. This makes you wonder - if BBM continuously denies the horrors of his father deeds, even glorifying and claiming it that it was a necessary evil - how would you define that man's character?

[yhokz101]

Unsa may may kalainan sa Freedom regarding sa news ug social media sa Singapore Ug sa Philippines.. Gi censor ba diha?

research both country and know the difference in terms on how govt handles such things... dli kay spoonfeed tanan diha nmo.

[Apollo24]

research both country and know the difference in terms on how govt handles such things... dli kay spoonfeed tanan diha nmo.

Dili kinahanglan e research Bro.. Kay nakaanha ko sa Singapore... Wla may kalainan ang Freedom sa Media ug mga Social media sa Sg ug Ph unlike sa China.... Kanang Bias imong makita gkan na sa mga haoshao na site.. Prehas ana youtube, edited na.. Kani Bro ahh gikan nimo, dli sad ni Bias marcos era

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Mura ra gud na ug Manila ug Cebu compare sa Davao... Prehas ra man ug balaod tanan... Wala may Martial Law..

[yhokz101]

Bro, BBM's candidacy for VP is like scratching old wounds, and I have to say my old wound runs deep. You can't blame me for being martial law-probic. That single incident has defined me and my character, it has remained ingrained in memory and can not be erased. Past is past and we have to move on, true, but have we truly learned the lessons of our past? Some here even argued that past horrors of the Marcos regime didn't even exist - and that makes me mad as one having experienced it first-hand.

No one's arguing about some people's past horrid experiences on Martial Law, i can even relate to that. Leave this topic as this is not really relating to the topic. We just merely bringing up the past. Past is past, leave it behind but not the lesson. Carry it forward to make you a much better person. You refer BBM candidacy like scratching old wounds since you are seeing him not as a person but by his surname. Moving on...

We could argue about BBM's character and his candidacy for VP in order to stick to the topic, but time and again posters here would refer to FM's regime and the past - and that includes you. If BBM is truly a man of character, then I suggest he better not make continuous reference to his late father's regime or the martial law years every time he make public appearances. A true man of character would stand on his own merit and not credit his being on the deeds or misdeeds of his father - he must fully come to his own. But BBM continually makes references in a like-father-like-son attitude, even during his proclamation statement when he decided to run as VP. This makes you wonder - if BBM continuously denies the horrors of his father deeds, even glorifying and claiming it that it was a necessary evil - how would you define that man's character?

Posts from previous FM regime were posted since people bringing up past FM admin - that includes you. Rather than focusing on BBM and his candidacy, people prefer to link him to the past, move on he is not FM he is BBM for pete's sake. But on the thing is, BBM candidacy has got nothing to do with the past, he did not based his platform from his late father's admin not pushing to have similar flow of govt. Most people including you are just throwing memories of past in his name, and judging his character by his surname again and again. As he was heard saying, he would rather focus on serving the people than living/bringing up the past.

salamat sa reply bro