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    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    I will still be on my Stand that INCEST were still be "Lustful and need not to indulge with it"....
    Good job bro. Emperor Diocletian agrees with you, and so most of the Christians in this forum.

    The Pagan Romans enacted laws against incest without the bible, because in their conscience they know how this relationship can harm the family. Christians on one hand has the rules of the Bible, as basis. What I can say is, let our conscience decide.

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    nindot ug ending ni nga thread da,, mora mag naay director

  3. #683
    Quote Originally Posted by eclipsegenesis View Post
    I admire OP for questioning your belief

    My short answer: The bible doesn't make sense.

    It's not a word of some divine creator bullshit!.... Gibasa na naq ang bibliya from cover to cover, from old testament to new testament. It's just some stories copied from ancient sumerian books.

    To think that billions of people fall for this shit scares me.
    Religion is some bullshit.
    When some voices you hear that you will offer your son as a burnt! sacrifice. The answer is NO!, you idiot Isaac!
    If you are in doubt, Read something on www.reddit.com/r/atheism, you will be amazed things will start to make sense to you.
    it would only make sense to the foolish. sorry for that.
    How can a man understand the things of God when in his present state hes LOST and BLIND as what the bible described?

    2 Timothy 3:7King James Version (KJV)
    7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.


    Psalm 14:1
    The fool hath said in his heart,There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works,there is none that doeth good.

    1 Corinthians 2:14
    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    It is only by God's grace that we can be saved from this situation.
    For the ones that are saved, theyll affirm to death that God is real. There are thousands of conversion testimonies we can see how these people changed their perspective about God!




    Unless we humble ourselves and surrender to God, we will be lost and separated from his presence through eternity!!

    Last edited by Tetrad; 09-21-2015 at 08:33 AM.

  4. #684
    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    @eclipsegenesis Bisan ako bro. ug ang Creator nga nag sugo ug Burn sa usa ka anak mag sugo ug ingon aneh, Aw bisan siya pay creator nako bro. ako jud siyang Tubagon "Kung ako naman lang sunugon akong Anak, Ikaw nalang kahay buhat unya I apil nalang ko sa Pag Sunog"

    Tataw kaau bro. nga ang Ilang Creator Tawo, Walay kalahian sa usa ka Mangingihaw ug Tawo nga myembro sa ISIS.

    Klaro kaayo ang mga O.T nila bro. diha nato ma ilhan kung unsa ka taphaw ang ilang baruganan regarding sa Bible nga ilang gitawag ug Holy nga Hinimo ug Kamot sa Tawo.

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    Mao ni Baroganan sa Unang Panahon Bro. matud pas mga Christian nga ni Tubag ngari nga Thread. Para Nila bro. Ayus kaau neh nga Paagi kay kuno lageh ang Creator maoy nag Sugo, Graveh ka Iro lageh bro.
    use the intellect rightly which God has given you brad.
    explain nalang wahts your opinion, if you believe in evolution, how did humans mutiply?

  5. #685
    Quote Originally Posted by GreyGargoyle View Post
    Incest was a Middle Eastern culture. Kinsay naka agi ug literature nga subject, daghan stories about Egyptian and Babylonian Kings nga ilang gi-minyoan ilang sister or mother. Incest was normal back then because it served them a purpose.

    For the Hebrews, I am not sure if na influence sila sa middle eastern culture, but one thing we know why it happened among the israelites was to propagate their race. Daghan mangamatay sa wars, then lagyo pa ang mga communities. Reproduction WAS a necessity bro, maong uso ang incest. Imagine mag cross pa ka ug disyerto for 5 years para makapanguyab. Some wont bother finding other people and would marry their own sisters or even their own mothers.

    But reading the Old Testament, God was silent about it. For me, incest is only applicable only for extreme cases. I posted earlier na im willing to commit incest if there is a REAL NECESSITY, like apocalypse then kami na lang sa akong paryente ang nabilin.
    INCEST IS DILI BASTOS, but naay fine line: if there is no real necessity, it can become a perversion.
    It's possible that adam's children are propagating kay wa may laing race ana nga panahon but no way ang Amahan ug anak or anak ug inahan!

    There is a time limitation to it. To further men to multiply, God allows it and is logical kay lisud pud kung sa mananap ang taw mo interbreed para managhan! but as they multiply, God established a law to regulate it....if God is immoral then why he establish a law about thou shall not commit adultery or fornication?

    If we noticed, only after man replenish the earth God gave his commandments.
    Last edited by Tetrad; 09-21-2015 at 08:38 AM.

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    wa gyud answer sa pangutana ani kay daghan naman kaayo mga sweto karong panahona gud, iyahay lang og pina may2x ba, tsk tsk

  7. #687
    Quote Originally Posted by eclipsegenesis View Post
    I admire OP for questioning your belief

    My short answer: The bible doesn't make sense.

    It's not a word of some divine creator bullshit!.... Gibasa na naq ang bibliya from cover to cover, from old testament to new testament. It's just some stories copied from ancient sumerian books.

    To think that billions of people fall for this shit scares me.
    Religion is some bullshit.

    When some voices you hear that you will offer your son as a burnt! sacrifice. The answer is NO!, you idiot Isaac!

    If you are in doubt, Read something on www.reddit.com/r/atheism, you will be amazed things will start to make sense to you.
    luoya sad nimo...gi disregard nimo ang mga tawo nga nag suwat sa bible. pero motuo ka anang gipangsuwat sa atheism website without verification? for sure if kung mangutana ko nimo personalay, gibasa man kaaha nimo ang bible from cover to cover makatubag kaha ka dayon? aynag pinamay oy. gamit pakag bag-o acct

  8. #688
    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    Nindot kaau sila ug Reply bro. kaning mga Christian nga ni Tubag ngari matud pa nila ay " Sa una wala pa ang Incest nga Term" so sa ato pa safe kaau? hahahahaha Pagka kataw-anan sa Tubag , Wala pa kuno ang Pulong nga Incest sa Una, ang ingon ani nga tubag bro. bisan ang Dili mo basa sa Biblia will chose not to Fack own family member sila pa kaha nga Naka ila man kaha sila sa Ilang Creator? pero kung Iro ang ilang Creator bro. Wala jud koy Question kung mag Iniro Sila ug pagpadaghan.

    Nakahibalo ko bro. nga nagpa George George rani Sila, Ilang gisampongan ang ilang mga Alimpatakan aron dili sila ka Mata sa kamatuoran nga ang ilang gituhoan nga Balaod walay Sayop, Pero I know Deep Inside bro. Nag lagiting nga pangutana usab ang ilang mga kasing kasing ug utok kung ngano neh.
    kung kataw-anan among tubag. mas kataw-anan imong pangutana

    ing-ani ay atong paobsan ang logic ngadto sa barangay level kay murag dili ka makakuha kung kana ato hisgutan

    kabantay ka anang naay isuwat sa kural (fence) na "GIDILI ANG PAG PANGIHI DINHI" sa tan-aw nimo ngano gisuwat mana dinha? ka lang sa tubaga usa ko mopadayon

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    kung kataw-anan among tubag. mas kataw-anan imong pangutana

    ing-ani ay atong paobsan ang logic ngadto sa barangay level kay murag dili ka makakuha kung kana ato hisgutan

    kabantay ka anang naay isuwat sa kural (fence) na "GIDILI ANG PAG PANGIHI DINHI" sa tan-aw nimo ngano gisuwat mana dinha? ka lang sa tubaga usa ko mopadayon
    KUng kataw-anan pa ang akong pangutana bro. Nganong naa may na Offend ninyo? kataw-anan man kaha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetrad View Post
    unsaon pagtubag nga ilang gitun an ang pag pangita ramag sayop daw sa bibliya..hehe.

    sakto gyud ang bible, sakar kayo ang in aning klaseha sa mga taw ai:

    2 Timothy 3:7
    Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

    Romans 1:22 (KJV)
    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
    "Romans 1:22 (KJV)
    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,"


    Bro. sure ka aneh nga verse? naka kita ba diay kag ni ingon ko nga Wise ko? ni profess ko nga wise ko? pag Ture diha oi, Ni Question galeh ko para inyong tubagon mo aksyon naman hinoon ug ka Lubad!

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