Bastos ba ang mag unay or incest? Pero sa biblia dili lagi bastos? Old testament!

[Brownman_politiks]

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what you are trying here is to look and judge a person? mao bah? Not even trying to dispute him na mao ni sakto dli na mao? Kuaywa gd nmo doh..

daghan pod question mark oi, it gives the impression nga di ka sure sa imong assessment sa akoa.

ako taka gi pangutana asa ang comment na naka begin kag question sa "morality" sa ginoo, based sa mong sulti? Inconsistent? Tungod kay I am throwing possibilities unsay reasons and probable turn of events why it was prohibited, not necessarily questioning God's morality in the process coz I for one, not trying o justify my explnation na mao na ang sakto ug definite answer kay sa giingon pa nko, way gi mention sa bible, mao na usa sa daghan butang na na mention sa silence sa scripture.

if di ka maka kita sa inconsistency then im sorry to say this, maayo pagkatrabaho sa imong church nimo.

that's because the one in question here is kamo, dili ako that goes oth ways, unless you are all perfect and all knowing, dli jd ko mo question nmo.

again, im not the one in question here.

[yhokz101]

daghan pod question mark oi, it gives the impression nga di ka sure sa imong assessment sa akoa.

mas maau nalang question mark kaysa "!"

assessment nko nmo is simple: Way klaro kay dli mo tubag sa akong pangutana asa na comment namo naka begin kag "question" sa morality sa ginoo.. well arrogant ka to say the least on not even care to "correct" people who are "wrong"

if di ka maka kita sa inconsistency then im sorry to say this, maayo pagkatrabaho sa imong church nimo.

Inconsistency? Please again point it out para ma klaro.. dli kay pahiyum rkag ingon na pagka trabaho sa church. you dont even know what sect or what my religion.

again, im not the one in question here.

coz you are all perfect, right. no one dares to question your righteousness.
mao dli ka mo tubag sa akong pangutana. typical.

[Brownman_politiks]

cge rakag likay2x ui..

nangayu na gani ko nimo ug clarification asa sa among "interpretation" nga naka begin kag question sa morality sa ginoo?

simple raman na tawn, tubaga kay if naay naka catch sa imogn attention im sure dli jd na nmo maka limtan.

interpretations na imogn gi ingon na conflicting like God allow it and then prohibit it later on.

For the record naa koy gi hatag nmo na mga "probable" reasons and turns of why gi prohibit. DLi ka mo accept genes issues kay lage "wala" sa bible. Which brings us to basic as Morality.. in what way para ma justify nato based sa bible, naa may daghan nag mention why sinful jd cya. Ang gusto nimo, ang imong tumong previously gusto nmo makita o makuha unsay reason sa Ginoo nganu iya gi prohibit na. Unsay turning events nganu naka decide Cya na e prohibit, unsay naka change sa iyang mind nag before gi "allow" man Niya. Again it is important to distinguish between incestuous relationships prior to God commanding against them (Leviticus 18:6-1 and incest that occurred after God’s commands had been revealed. sabta lang na.

imo ra ng hunahuna nga naglikay ko kay wa nimo tarunga pagbasa nga naay naka butang diha nga "inyong interpretation". kay sa ka busy nimo og pangita og losot wa nimo nabasa.

ka klaro ana kung asa ko naka question sa morality sa ginoo in fact imo man gani gi depensahan og maayo haha, kay kita ka nga takilid kaayo imong depensa.

gibalik napod nimo ang leviticus, tanawa lang akong tubag sa previous nga posts.

[Brownman_politiks]

mas maau nalang question mark kaysa "!"

it means that you are not sure.

assessment nko nmo is simple: Way klaro kay dli mo tubag sa akong pangutana asa na comment namo naka begin kag "question" sa morality sa ginoo.. well arrogant ka to say the least on not even care to "correct" people who are "wrong"

pangitaa lang diha kay klaro kaayo kung asa ko dapit ni question. in fact imo gi depensahan og maayo kay takilid ka.

Inconsistency? Please again point it out para ma klaro.. dli kay pahiyum rkag ingon na pagka trabaho sa church. you dont even know what sect or what my religion.

e back read na lang kung ngano naka ingon ko nga inconsistency. it doesnt matter kung asa ka n ga church og unsa imo religion basta maayo pagka trabaho sa imong church nimo. di na gud ka maka spot og inconsistency.

coz you are all perfect, right. no one dares to question your righteousness.
mao dli ka mo tubag sa akong pangutana. typical.

that's your god not me, no one dares question him. di ba ingon pa gani ka nako, why question his(refering to your god) morality.

di ko mutubag lagi kay im not the one in question here.

[yhokz101]

imo ra ng hunahuna nga naglikay ko kay wa nimo tarunga pagbasa nga naay naka butang diha nga "inyong interpretation". kay sa ka busy nimo og pangita og losot wa nimo nabasa.

ka klaro ana kung asa ko naka question sa morality sa ginoo in fact imo man gani gi depensahan og maayo haha, kay kita ka nga takilid kaayo imong depensa.

gibalik napod nimo ang leviticus, tanawa lang akong tubag sa previous nga posts.

para ma human if dli ka mo tubag ayaw nalang...

pls state asa nga point sa comment namo naka begin kag pangutana sa morality sa ginoo?

Then did i even try to justify nga it is the definite answer and correct answer? Or did I say maybe mao to ang nahitabo possible kay tungod ani or kana..

which is which? Pls tubag..

Enough ba ang "inconsistency" na imong gi ingon par amo question ka sa morality sa ginoo? Or was it even inconsistent that I even quoted somehting in the bible na mao jd ni ang nahitabo, ani ang Ginoo sa una then karon dli na..

I merely presented to you probable reasons as to "why"

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it means that you are not sure.



pangitaa lang diha kay klaro kaayo kung asa ko dapit ni question. in fact imo gi depensahan og maayo kay takilid ka.






e back read na lang kung ngano naka ingon ko nga inconsistency. it doesnt matter kung asa ka n ga church og unsa imo religion basta maayo pagka trabaho sa imong church nimo. di na gud ka maka spot og inconsistency.




that's your god not me, no one dares question him. di ba ingon pa gani ka nako, why question his(refering to your god) morality.

di ko mutubag lagi kay im not the one in question here.

typical tubag sa tawo who tends to troll.. liko and likay sa pangutanang pwede ra tubagaon. kapoy na.

[Brownman_politiks]

para ma human if dli ka mo tubag ayaw nalang...

pls state asa nga point sa comment namo naka begin kag pangutana sa morality sa ginoo?

Then did i even try to justify nga it is the definite answer and correct answer? Or did I say maybe mao to ang nahitabo possible kay tungod ani or kana..

which is which? Pls tubag..

Enough ba ang "inconsistency" na imong gi ingon par amo question ka sa morality sa ginoo? Or was it even inconsistent that I even quoted somehting in the bible na mao jd ni ang nahitabo, ani ang Ginoo sa una then karon dli na..

I merely presented to you probable reasons as to "why"

e back read na lang lagi kay hayag pa sa puti nga gilabhan og perla ang point kung nganong nka question ko sa morality sa ginoo, in fact imo gi depensahan og maayo kay kita ka nga takilid ka.

Enough ba ang "inconsistency" na imong gi ingon par amo question ka sa morality sa ginoo? haha naa n a pod ning question mark haha, its either di ka sure if ang reason nga inconsistent enough na ba ma question ang morality sa ginoo or you are just playing safe to save your face.

and by the way just in case wa na pod ka maka bantay, your argument is getting weaker. asa naman to ang imong pina isog nga tone nga sakto jud imong genetic nga rason? na wala man lagi.

[harhar]

You Got the Point Bro. hahahaha pero naa pay mas lawom nga sense ani hehehehe

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i rather die bro than to fack my own sister!

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Ikaw diay bro. mo Jerjer pud diay kas imong Igsoon aron mo managhan?

Possible ni sa una nga naay unay kay wala paman tay gi sunod siguro pero karon lain naman, nag evolve naman ang taw.

[Kenshiro]

ang akong tubag diri is ang imo god ang nausab.

so what if nagmagahi sa iyang ulo si Moses, usbon diay niya ang iya balaod? Blaming Moses is a weak apologetic, ngano man lagi sige patay ang tao, gi usab ba gud ang balaod nga "thou shall not kill?". Then ang mga dietary laws pod matud pa ninyo gi usab sa Ginoo. tsk tsk ... osab osab, di ba.

nya naa pa moy interpretation sa Genesis 6:6 nga di maayo , the verse said... The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. Diri ang tao na pod inyong gi basol diri.

Now don't get me wrong here ha. motoo ko og Ginoo but I somehow have a lot of disagreements sa mga fundamentalist's nga interpretation of God and the bible.

Nobody blaming Moses.
What you misunderstood is that God has changed because the hardness of the human hearts?
On the Contrary God has never changed Humanity has changed these laws are there to keep them from changing further to keep them from changing for the worst.
“Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation”

The wages of Sin is Death, the killings are not murder it is the result of Sin. their sin must have been too severe,
God can end life but no man or man's authority can end life.

Does Dietary laws have changed? Pork can stil cause a lot of disease and they are still are. It is full of toxins and carcinogens.

"Acts 10:14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common"

This verse means
Acts 10:28-
And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

God regretted he created man? But what he did was has restored Man in Christ.
Genesis 6:6
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

We grieved God because of our sin but that is not the end of the story.

This is the Anti typical true Christianity of Today.
"But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. 10And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth."

[Vien]

ahm nag basa2 cu s first few pages of this thread and super init ng conversation nyo guys. wla p lng ncu matiwas tnan ug basa..

i don't wanna argue ninyu coz naa mn jud tay lain2 na point of views and beliefs. ang sa acu lng, can't we just ask question generally without throwing harsh words to any religion or group of people? everyone can answer this naman dbuh? mapa Christian, atheist, or what. it's just that general kaau ta manghusga sa uban tao buh. if naai uban Christian or pastor na bati atung tan-aw, should we look on to other Christians and pastors the same way? i know this is a little bit off topic but i am just concern to those people na masakitan pd sa i name sa ilaha. even mn cguro ikaw n ngbasa if ingnun k sa uban taw na "imung family kai ingun ani (something bad) although imung cousin or layu n relative ruh ang ingun atu (that something bad)".

with regards sa question, i don't have any solid answer yet with that. i have my own understanding on why did it happened in history. i accept n there are some things that we keep on asking ourselves or other people that only God can answer. and that answer will not come in an instant. naa man jud nay due process. everything comes in the right time. even the answer to that question. maau pd na nka ask k ana TS kai all of us who read your question could also ask ourselves "nganu bitaw sa?". kai pnagsa lng ang mka open ana n topic.

thanks.

Thanks kaau sa imong pag sabot Sis, I like the way how you think you didn't put the quetion into an end and you're still waiting for the Good Answer on my queries, Sad to say gamay ra ang mga open minded sama nimo sis nga maka sabot the way nga naka question ko sa reality man ganeh ni or not but truly I say gamay ra ang mo cross examine sa mga panghitabo nga naka saad sa biblia ug sa mga actual kunohay nga nahitabo kay kining tanan nga naka sulat dili porki Bible ni mo ingon lang dayon ta nga Sakto tanan ang nakasulat kay we have Brains to examine baya pud kay we all know that Religion is just a way of Manipulation. So we better have an enquiring mind to examine all of those things nga naka sulat sa bisan unsay sulat dili lang kay sa Bible apil na ang mga literary works nga ni claim ug matud pa matuod nga nahitabo. Salamat kaau Sis kay sa ubay ubay na nga mga tawo ang naka basa niini so far ikaw pa ang adunay maaung tubag bisan tuod ug wala nimo gi Sakto ug tubag subay sa akong pangutana. Kay ikaw mismo naka pangutana usab regarding niini. Usbon nako Dili porki Bibliya Sakto nalang jud tanan kay sa atong namat-an sukad pa sa unang panahon ang mga Scriptures were all made by true human hand and not in Super Natural Way. Just like the Nature.

[Vien]

[QUOTE=slabdans;17699495]the truth is, you are not seeking for answer nor truth to your questions. you are just here its because you just want to show that you are not believed on it and wants to find for people who have the same belief of your thoughts and ideas.

seeking for higher truth? sounds funny right? Lol. you knew that nobody knows the absolute truth as you've think.[/QUOTE

Abi gud nimo bro Slabdans wala ko mangita ug sympathy or any form of company sa akong journey sa pagpangutana, Sa ako nang ginaingon Curious lang ko ug gusto ko mahibalo sa saktong tubag , pero so far wala pay naka pasabot nako sa maong tubag nga dili pajud sakto.